Cap Space is an ASSET and the best way to get a return on that asset is to be a facilitator in a trade that we take on Cap Space in return for Draft Picks
- glennjpawlak22

The cap space that the Hawks have is hindered since it is all based on LTIR at this point. They still have to be (Stan has emphasized that he does not want to use offseason LTIR) cap compliant on day one of the league year and they have contracts for Suter, Hagel and Zadorov to negotiate if they want to keep them. If they are taking on an expiring contract, that could work, but something still has to go back the other way. If someone wanted to do something like Anisimov and a sweetener for Carpenter, then sure. Otherwise, it would get really tricky.

I personally think the best thing to do (and Seabrook still has to agree to waive in the end) would be to trade his contract in the offseason to someone like TOR or TB that needs the LTIR overage to make their roster work. The problem then comes down tot he fact that the acquiring team would need to juggle that contract in the offseason until it is done.

The cap space that the Hawks have is hindered since it is all based on LTIR at this point. They still have to be (Stan has emphasized that he does not want to use offseason LTIR) cap compliant on day one of the league year and they have contracts for Suter, Hagel and Zadorov to negotiate if they want to keep them. If they are taking on an expiring contract, that could work, but something still has to go back the other way. If someone wanted to do something like Anisimov and a sweetener for Carpenter, then sure. Otherwise, it would get really tricky.

I personally think the best thing to do (and Seabrook still has to agree to waive in the end) would be to trade his contract in the offseason to someone like TOR or TB that needs the LTIR overage to make their roster work. The problem then comes down tot he fact that the acquiring team would need to juggle that contract in the offseason until it is done.
- Chunk

yes, it has to be a ST/expiring contract....i should have stated that.

The cap space that the Hawks have is hindered since it is all based on LTIR at this point. They still have to be (Stan has emphasized that he does not want to use offseason LTIR) cap compliant on day one of the league year and they have contracts for Suter, Hagel and Zadorov to negotiate if they want to keep them. If they are taking on an expiring contract, that could work, but something still has to go back the other way. If someone wanted to do something like Anisimov and a sweetener for Carpenter, then sure. Otherwise, it would get really tricky.

I personally think the best thing to do (and Seabrook still has to agree to waive in the end) would be to trade his contract in the offseason to someone like TOR or TB that needs the LTIR overage to make their roster work. The problem then comes down tot he fact that the acquiring team would need to juggle that contract in the offseason until it is done.
- Chunk

I have no expertise in this area but I'm thinking that a trade of an LTIR contract like Seab's is best going to a team needing to get to the cap floor - Arizona, Ottawa, maybe Columbus. They would have no cash obligations as the contract is covered by insurance. The only problem would probably be the number of years on the contract.

Doug Lecuyer didn't do it for you?

- Rota's Rooter

Lecuyer could shoot right and left handed. Scoring goals, either side, he was not so adept

I have no expertise in this area but I'm thinking that a trade of an LTIR contract like Seab's is best going to a team needing to get to the cap floor - Arizona, Ottawa, maybe Columbus. They would have no cash obligations as the contract is covered by insurance. The only problem would probably be the number of years on the contract.
- RickJ

In theory yes, but most/all of the teams that are stretching to get to the floor are doing so because they are tight financially. AZ sold off higher cost parts because they could not afford them. Seabrook's contract is not really advantageous to those teams. He is owed $6M, $5M, $4.5M over the last three years of his contract. In contrast, Hossa's is $1M for the last three years. The amount covered by insurance drops once a player hits 35 if memory serves.

Was he as good as Everett Sanipass?
- HawkintheD

Biggest letdown was Sanipass.
Kyle Beech I was suspicious
Akim Aliu I was disappointed
But disappointed more with Makarov
I also had doubts that about Smith drafting Russians

I must be the only person that didn't know Gretzky has some Russian thought he was totally Polish.

I think the Magnusson retirement opens the door for other guys. I know he did a TON off the ice and I will never bash him, as he was my mom's favorite player but if he is up there.......

28/27 to me need to get up there. 2 links to that era.
Chelios....I could care less. I respect his game, but I was never a fan

81 and 19 never got individual awards here outside of Toews conn smythe but I think both have to go up there.

7 was the defacto captain. Guy may wear a letter but doesnt necessarily mean he is the guy guy's go to or look to. As you pointed out, game 4 vs Detroit in that penalty box when the captain is melting down.....who goes over there? The captain. Always bothered me a bit 7 didn't wear a letter......

2/88 are locks

50 is debatable as he 2 cup wins and if you put 50 up there, 10 has to go up there.

I also think Q needs a banner like Jackson has on the Bulls side. Same with Bowman.
- SteveRain

Toews had the Selke once, too. Realizing the Gold Medals at all levels were for Canada and not Hawks achievements, but he has the hardware from his first decade.

Tune in tomorrow night for the Flames at Edmonton.

Johnny Hockey, Sam Bennett and a bunch of their buddies better stock up on Preparation H because Sutter's hot poker is going to get shoved up their nether regions as soon as he sees something he doesn't like.
- RickJ

If Bennett plays, I believe he’s been a healthy scratch the last couple of games.

Biggest letdown was Sanipass.
Kyle Beech I was suspicious
Akim Aliu I was disappointed
But disappointed more with Makarov
I also had doubts that about Smith drafting Russians

I must be the only person that didn't know Gretzky has some Russian thought he was totally Polish.
- jhawk59

Eric Lecompte and Beach never played a NHL game, talk about wastes of 1st Round talent!!

I have no expertise in this area but I'm thinking that a trade of an LTIR contract like Seab's is best going to a team needing to get to the cap floor - Arizona, Ottawa, maybe Columbus. They would have no cash obligations as the contract is covered by insurance. The only problem would probably be the number of years on the contract.
- RickJ

As Chunk mentioned, I believe at 35+ insurance covers only 60 %. Not sure how salary vs. signing bonus factors into that, though.

Closest comparable might be that weird Gáborík/Nilsson trade to Tampa, but that was actually beneficial to the Senators, so who knows. And they are both on expiring contracts, unlike Seabs.

Eric Lecompte and Beach never played a NHL game, talk about wastes of 1st Round talent!!
- ChicagoHope

The argument could be made that Jack Skille never played and "NHL" game either. He played "in" them, but never up to the level.

Haven't seen how much money comes off the books with Seabrook retiring, That absolutely has to be a priority for Chicago. I would even entertain a trade of Patrick Kane as well, The Hawks could buyout Keith this summer too.
- Shady1962

Why would he retire when he can collect and sit on LTIR?

Patrick Kane is the only revenue driver they have at this point and should be able to play at a high level into his late 30s like St Louis did. And he's having a positive impact on younger players so probs a guy to keep around.

Plus there isn't a team that can provide the high first round picks that would return any type of comparable value back and they'd still need to sit on bad money.

This isn't baseball. In the cap era for hockey there isn't a lot to entertain for Kane.

Why would he retire when he can collect and sit on LTIR?

Patrick Kane is the only revenue driver they have at this point and should be able to play at a high level into his late 30s like St Louis did. And he's having a positive impact on younger players so probs a guy to keep around.

Plus there isn't a team that can provide the high first round picks that would return any type of comparable value back and they'd still need to sit on bad money.

This isn't baseball. In the cap era for hockey there isn't a lot to entertain for Kane.
- fattybeef

He is not retiring. He has simply stated that he can no longer play. He is not filing retirement papers. The entirety of his contract is still on the books.

There is this however:

Seabrook: "I'm excited about what's next. I love hockey. I love the Blackhawks organization. I'd love to circle back to that in the coming years."

The argument could be made that Jack Skille never played and "NHL" game either. He played "in" them, but never up to the level.
- Chunk

If you’re going that route I have a long list.

If you’re going that route I have a long list.
- Angotti

We all do.

Looks like Subban is in net tonight. In regards to Seabrooks contract, there's no rush, as well as our forwards are playing the green dmen need time to develop.

Tune in tomorrow night for the Flames at Edmonton.

Johnny Hockey, Sam Bennett and a bunch of their buddies better stock up on Preparation H because Sutter's hot poker is going to get shoved up their nether regions as soon as he sees something he doesn't like.
- RickJ

What was wrong in Calgary. Those players' attitude..practice habits? Zary is a very good add next year. He is a player. Maybe under D Sutter they finally trade Johnny hockey. I would look for offensive dmen prospects in a package deal. Not many teams will easily surrender their #1 any year. It is the lifeblood where you find good prospects. Hopefully future core players. Forget about Chicagoas Stan wants to continue reuild on the fly so not trading first round picks. You might guess Pittsburgh but then the Penguuns woukd be trading either Letang and or Malkin. I don't knwant the new management plans but they need to get draft choices back. Maybe they could do a three team tradeif they got draft picks for Letang/Malkin. Then trade a draft cboice to Calgary for Johnny Hockey. But the Penguins need to try to get two draft picks then because they need to draft high end prospects.

Who knows where Johnny H goes

Looks like Subban is in net tonight. In regards to Seabrooks contract, there's no rush, as well as our forwards are playing the green dmen need time to develop.
- BetweenTheDots

True. The only real concern I have right now is how it affects Stan with managing other assets (resigning young players, making other trades for additional assets, etc).

True. The only real concern I have right now is how it affects Stan with managing other assets (resigning young players, making other trades for additional assets, etc).
- Chunk

I don't think it's much of an obstacle the way the Maple Leafs and Bolts handled it.

I don't think it's much of an obstacle the way the Maple Leafs and Bolts handled it.
- BetweenTheDots

Right but their GM wasn't Bowman. (RF)

Right but their GM wasn't Bowman. (RF)
- HawkintheD

That's an excellent point, hahaha

Don't know if he'll have a similar game tonight or not but 6 years at $6.75 mil for McDonagh, yikes, I'll take Murphy and his contract over that deal every day

Tune in tomorrow night for the Flames at Edmonton.

Johnny Hockey, Sam Bennett and a bunch of their buddies better stock up on Preparation H because Sutter's hot poker is going to get shoved up their nether regions as soon as he sees something he doesn't like.
- RickJ

That will be appointment television.

Sorry everyone, but one last quote:

Seabrook: "I wouldn't change anything for anything. I gave it all I had."

He certainly did.

Sorry everyone, but one last quote:

Seabrook: "I wouldn't change anything for anything. I gave it all I had."

He certainly did.
- Chunk

Yep. He never cheated a shift. He gave it whatever he had on every night. He scored so many huge goals in the POs.

Everyone recalls him talking to Toews in the penalty box but I recall reading around the time Seabs was constantly texting Toews between games and telling to stop thinking about anything else but scoring goals.