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bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm excited to see that
Joined: 08.28.2010

Mar 5 @ 11:46 AM ET
I'm currently writing Lord of the Wings but I need Yzerman to win first.
- gergeswillems

A game?
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Mar 5 @ 11:47 AM ET
Well if they are in the finals, there are only 2 teams left.
so the odds would change/be updated after each round.

but as of today, since we only know the standings of Mar 5...all options are factored into the projections

- senstroll

Yes.

Which contradicts what you said here:

I look at these numbers like this.

for example if they played each series 100 time or 1000 times or 10000 times..thats kinda how these things work, run the sims thousands of times and see how many times each wins.

Leafs win round 1 76% of the time
Leafs win round 2 57% of the time (lose 43%, feel about right with this season)
Leafs win round 3 37% of the times (lose 65%, not a great chance)
Leafs win cup 21% of the time, lose 79% (really bad odds they win)
Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Whenever, wherever, ON
Joined: 06.27.2013

Mar 5 @ 11:47 AM ET
it doesn't qualify as a 35+ contract.
- Atomic Wedgie


I think I see the loophole: He's not officially retiring. That allows Chicago to keep him on LTIR.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Mar 5 @ 11:49 AM ET
I think I see the loophole: He's not officially retiring. That allows Chicago to keep him on LTIR.
- Monkeypunk

Yeah, like Chris Pronger.

senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Mar 5 @ 11:54 AM ET
Yes.

Which contradicts what you said here:

- Atomic Wedgie


no it doesnt.

when he runs his sims 10k times, leafs win 21% of the time

bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm excited to see that
Joined: 08.28.2010

Mar 5 @ 11:55 AM ET
if he has officially retired, there should be a cap recapture penalty...
- PatC80

Not when he's on long term injury with no hope of recovery in the foreseeable future.
bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm excited to see that
Joined: 08.28.2010

Mar 5 @ 11:58 AM ET
Ya I guess, not sure why they do this. Just go to the beach and stay on LTIR until the contract is over.
- Garnie

Team commitments and stuff.
Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Whenever, wherever, ON
Joined: 06.27.2013

Mar 5 @ 12:12 PM ET
it doesn't qualify as a 35+ contract.
- Atomic Wedgie


Huh. I thought - and maybe it was only ever discussed - that there was a rule that if a long-term contract that varied in year-over-year salary was signed prior to a player turning 35, but extended beyond the time the player turned 35, it would be considered a 35+ contract.

I don't see this on any quick Google searches - it like a fairly specific set of caveats for me to remember if I made it up in my little brain.

Oh well.

Thanks!
Archaic
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Waterloo, ON
Joined: 01.12.2011

Mar 5 @ 12:13 PM ET
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Mar 5 @ 12:17 PM ET

- Archaic



I saw that interview, and I dont think he was saying it exactly that way.
he was kinds stumbling a bit for words...but I took it to mean the Leafs are a good offensive team and like to play in the O-zone instead.

which is true for any team
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Mar 5 @ 12:18 PM ET
Chicago continues to cheat the cap system at an incredible pace. Leafs did well with Robidas Island but they have nothing on the Hawks. First they squirm out of Hossa with Jockstrapgate now this baloney. Would do a happy dance if the league hit them with penalty on this one.
- winsix


The bolts are the worst offenders this year.

They will get their best player and highest salary player for free and well-rested for the playoffs.

gergeswillems
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Malkin wants to be The Man, ON
Joined: 02.01.2016

Mar 5 @ 12:19 PM ET
A game?
- bobbyisno1

That would be nice.
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Mar 5 @ 12:22 PM ET
I saw that interview, and I dont think he was saying it exactly that way.
he was kinds stumbling a bit for words...but I took it to mean the Leafs are a good offensive team and like to play in the O-zone instead.

which is true for any team

- senstroll


except that the Leafs have been hella successful at playing in the offensive zone for the majority of play this season.

One could also say Jake Virtanen doesn't really like scoring much...
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Mar 5 @ 12:25 PM ET
I think I see the loophole: He's not officially retiring. That allows Chicago to keep him on LTIR.
- Monkeypunk



So, as long as he doesn't officially hand in his retirement papers, they'll be fine.. I mean he can shout "I'm retired" from the rooftops but it is not actually true
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Mar 5 @ 12:27 PM ET
except that the Leafs have been hella successful at playing in the offensive zone for the majority of play this season.

One could also say Jake Virtanen doesn't really like scoring much...

- prock


Seems to score when the opposing goalie is Michael Hutchinson
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Mar 5 @ 12:32 PM ET
Yeah, like Chris Pronger.
- Atomic Wedgie


Hossa, Lupul, Rick Dipietro
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Mar 5 @ 12:33 PM ET
Seems to score when the opposing goalie is Michael Hutchinson
- PatC80



Well, somehow the Leafs were playing a little more defense than they normally do last night, so I guess there are exceptions to every rule.

I'd atually like to see them go with Campbell a lot more. The whole team has looked more composed with him in net this year, even in comparison to Andersen, to me.
Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Whenever, wherever, ON
Joined: 06.27.2013

Mar 5 @ 12:48 PM ET
Well, somehow the Leafs were playing a little more defense than they normally do last night, so I guess there are exceptions to every rule.

I'd atually like to see them go with Campbell a lot more. The whole team has looked more composed with him in net this year, even in comparison to Andersen, to me.

- prock


Campbell needs to get and stay healthy so he can have that audition.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Mar 5 @ 12:56 PM ET
no it doesnt.

when he runs his sims 10k times, leafs win 21% of the time

- senstroll

I'm going to try this one more time:

When he runs his sims, the Leafs win the first round, the second round, the third round and the fourth round 21% of the time.

That's not the same as the Leafs having a 21% chance of winning the 4th round, should they win the first second and third round.
mjones242
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pretentious Beer Snob, ON
Joined: 06.22.2015

Mar 5 @ 12:59 PM ET
https://medium.com/dose/this-pint-size-bully-is-turkeys-biggest-meme-e4257ca2a008
- AdamFrench

Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Mar 5 @ 1:02 PM ET
The bolts are the worst offenders this year.

They will get their best player and highest salary player for free and well-rested for the playoffs.

- Aetherial

The league needs to step in and do something about this.

How can you not consider this to be salary cap circumvention?
dmnted
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Space for Rent
Joined: 08.30.2006

Mar 5 @ 1:04 PM ET
Wow, Chicago has $26,313,333 on LTIR this year.
- Atomic Wedgie

seebrook and toews take 75% of that.
mjones242
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pretentious Beer Snob, ON
Joined: 06.22.2015

Mar 5 @ 1:10 PM ET
The bolts are the worst offenders this year.

They will get their best player and highest salary player for free and well-rested for the playoffs.

- Aetherial

Here's hoping it backfires and Kuch is 50lbs. overweight and skills have atrophied.
gergeswillems
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Malkin wants to be The Man, ON
Joined: 02.01.2016

Mar 5 @ 1:14 PM ET
The league needs to step in and do something about this.

How can you not consider this to be salary cap circumvention?

- Atomic Wedgie

Hawks did it before when Patty Kane was injured. They traded for Antoine Vermette with his cap space. Kane returned for game 1 of the playoffs. Hawks won the Cup.
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Mar 5 @ 1:14 PM ET
I'm going to try this one more time:

When he runs his sims, the Leafs win the first round, the second round, the third round and the fourth round 21% of the time.

That's not the same as the Leafs having a 21% chance of winning the 4th round, should they win the first second and third round.

- Atomic Wedgie


I addressed that already.
and I agreed

if its down to 2 teams (one being the Leafs), the Leafs would have a 45-55% (super rough guess) chance instead of 21, depending on who they met in the finals...

but that doesnt have anything to do with his model predictions as it currently stands.

yes if you went to him and said if the Leafs and Dallas are in the finals tell me what % you give the leafs...then you get a diff number...natrually
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