Yeah I was never ever a Simon or Sheary hater while they were with Pens but I really dont like the idea of either of them ever coming back. Those ships have indeed sailed.
- MattStrat

fk sheary

Yeah I was never ever a Simon or Sheary hater while they were with Pens but I really dont like the idea of either of them ever coming back. Those ships have indeed sailed.
- MattStrat

Yeah I think Simon would be better than Jank and Sheary better than ERod but they don’t solve the overall issue of forward depth by being marginal upgrades over fringe NHLers.

I think the answer is a Tatar/Palmieri type and 1 or 2 depth forwards with one being a 4c.

Yeah I think Simon would be better than Jank and Sheary better than ERod but they don’t solve the overall issue of forward depth by being marginal upgrades over fringe NHLers.

I think the answer is a Tatar/Palmieri type and 1 or 2 depth forwards with one being a 4c.
- Feds91Stammer

Agreed on all of that though I will say I think Erod is better than Simon right now, even if marginally haha. Sheary is better than him though, yeah.

And recently waived Filppula is definitely cooked? even cooked could he be better than Jank?

Just going off what tsn said but Glendening would be worth a “mid round pick” so to be nice let’s do a -2022 3rd pick

Foligno haven’t heard to much of a “sourced” trade value but just from wild fans and looking at what recent comparable player values went for it seems a player, prospect, higher pick is what gets a trade done.

With Suter coming up on 37 and from the sounds of it finally looking like he’s slowing down, I think Pettersson fits there for sure for the player, wild have been “sourced” as wanting goalie prospects as recently as 2020 draft so we have 2 of them Blomqvist or Clang they can pick, and a pick would be the 2022 2nd rounder.
If they really wanted add Legare in the deal as I think Valterri Puustinen (once he signs a deal 7th round pick) is gonna surprise a lot of people as he’s playing in Liiga at 20 years old and has 32 points in 36 games.
- pens4life-66

I’m trying my best to get a 2nd for Glendening but a 3rd is fair.

The better question for Foligno is probably the 3.1m cap hit for a 25 point player. Do you need 2 Tanevs?

As for Puustinen he’s a dime a dozen prospect. This is DY+4. He should be doing much more in a lower tier league if he’s an NHL talent.

And recently waived Filppula is definitely cooked? even cooked could he be better than Jank?
- MattStrat

Filppula is overcooked.

Just going off what tsn said but Glendening would be worth a “mid round pick” so to be nice let’s do a -2022 3rd pick

Foligno haven’t heard to much of a “sourced” trade value but just from wild fans and looking at what recent comparable player values went for it seems a player, prospect, higher pick is what gets a trade done.

With Suter coming up on 37 and from the sounds of it finally looking like he’s slowing down, I think Pettersson fits there for sure for the player, wild have been “sourced” as wanting goalie prospects as recently as 2020 draft so we have 2 of them Blomqvist or Clang they can pick, and a pick would be the 2022 2nd rounder.
If they really wanted add Legare in the deal as I think Valterri Puustinen (once he signs a deal 7th round pick) is gonna surprise a lot of people as he’s playing in Liiga at 20 years old and has 32 points in 36 games.
- pens4life-66

Is Minnesota even a seller right now?

Is Minnesota even a seller right now?
- Tojo.

I was just talking about that with a buddy of mine. They shouldn't be, but man, I think they're going to come crashing down to Earth hard. Every year there are a handful of teams that overachieve for first thirty or so games then slide right back to where they should be. In a normal year that would be MIN, but they probably banked enough points to keep their playoff position.

They're riding a nice PDO right now.

Is Minnesota even a seller right now?
- Tojo.

They should be especially to dump a guy like Foligno.

I was just talking about that with a buddy of mine. They shouldn't be, but man, I think they're going to come crashing down to Earth hard. Every year there are a handful of teams that overachieve for first thirty or so games then slide right back to where they should be. In a normal year that would be MIN, but they probably banked enough points to keep their playoff position.

They're riding a nice PDO right now.
- Rinosaur

They should be selling anything and everything not named Kaprizov from that roster.

Just going off what tsn said but Glendening would be worth a “mid round pick” so to be nice let’s do a -2022 3rd pick

Foligno haven’t heard to much of a “sourced” trade value but just from wild fans and looking at what recent comparable player values went for it seems a player, prospect, higher pick is what gets a trade done.

With Suter coming up on 37 and from the sounds of it finally looking like he’s slowing down, I think Pettersson fits there for sure for the player, wild have been “sourced” as wanting goalie prospects as recently as 2020 draft so we have 2 of them Blomqvist or Clang they can pick, and a pick would be the 2022 2nd rounder.
If they really wanted add Legare in the deal as I think Valterri Puustinen (once he signs a deal 7th round pick) is gonna surprise a lot of people as he’s playing in Liiga at 20 years old and has 32 points in 36 games.
- pens4life-66

That’s a top/middle six price for a high end bottom six player in Foligno. That’s way too rich for me. I thought he’d be a good dog for us when you mentioned him, but w need to spend those assets on a scorer.

I was just talking about that with a buddy of mine. They shouldn't be, but man, I think they're going to come crashing down to Earth hard. Every year there are a handful of teams that overachieve for first thirty or so games then slide right back to where they should be. In a normal year that would be MIN, but they probably banked enough points to keep their playoff position.

They're riding a nice PDO right now.
- Rinosaur

Also look at the division they are in. I think the same goes for Edmonton too. Looking way better than they are after pummeling Ottawa and Vancouver a whole bunch of times.

I think this division will look pretty mediocre this year with 5 decent teams often going .500 against each other.

Is Minnesota even a seller right now?
- Tojo.

Who knows but I don’t think they are near close enough to being a cup contender not to talk about adding a top 4 dman to replace suter long term and picks and prospects. They also just traded Eric Staal and Luke kunin away in recent months so Guerin could be making his own team.

Just personally think Foligno is a perfect fit for the pens and his playing style gives me a little grit boner so that’s good enough for me! The offer I said I think is an overpayment for what it would cost to get him, just said it so people wouldn’t say “you’d have to give up more then that to get him blah blah blah” I do think he could produce 35 points with sid but who knows everyone said Brassard would give the pens 50 points...

Just checks off a lot of things I think the pens don’t have. Can skate really well for his size, he’s huge 6’3” 235lbs, hits, great in front of the net and in the down low cycle game, will fight anyone when needed and usually does well and still seems to score some nice goals. Minny doesn’t have the greatest offensive depth talent to play with to say the least.

That’s a top/middle six price for a high end bottom six player in Foligno. That’s way too rich for me. I thought he’d be a good dog for us when you mentioned him, but w need to spend those assets on a scorer.
- Victoro311

Perfect! Then we pay less then that as I mentioned in the next post! If I said an offer of to little then there would be the opposite response.

How’s Sids stats without Malkin?
- Feds91Stammer

142 GMS
61 GOALS
112 APPLES
173 PTS
1.22 PTS/GM

142 GMS
61 GOALS
112 APPLES
173 PTS
1.22 PTS/GM
- Beatnic57

So all this time Malkin has been the man and Sid is just riding his coattails

Who knows but I don’t think they are near close enough to being a cup contender not to talk about adding a top 4 dman to replace suter long term and picks and prospects. They also just traded Eric Staal and Luke kunin away in recent months so Guerin could be making his own team.

Just personally think Foligno is a perfect fit for the pens and his playing style gives me a little grit boner so that’s good enough for me! The offer I said I think is an overpayment for what it would cost to get him, just said it so people wouldn’t say “you’d have to give up more then that to get him blah blah blah” I do think he could produce 35 points with sid but who knows everyone said Brassard would give the pens 50 points...

Just checks off a lot of things I think the pens don’t have. Can skate really well for his size, he’s huge 6’3” 235lbs, hits, great in front of the net and in the down low cycle game, will fight anyone when needed and usually does well and still seems to score some nice goals. Minny doesn’t have the greatest offensive depth talent to play with to say the least.
- pens4life-66

Do the pens need more bottom 6 forwards?

https://www.nbcsports.com...nley-cup-rings-win-flyers

Did anyone else see the interview with Tocchet? I think the title is a bit misleading....

I don't think he said he WOULD trade, but he definately doesn't discourage the idea either...

https://www.nbcsports.com...nley-cup-rings-win-flyers

Do the pens need more bottom 6 forwards?
- Feds91Stammer

You mean other than Glendening of course lol

https://www.nbcsports.com/philadelphia/flyers/coyotes-coach-rick-tocchet-would-trade-one-his-penguins-stanley-cup-rings-win-flyers

Did anyone else see the interview with Tocchet? I think the title is a bit misleading....

I don't think he said he WOULD trade, but he definately doesn't discourage the idea either...

https://www.nbcsports.com...nley-cup-rings-win-flyers
- Beatnic57

Yeah well, too bad for him

Do the pens need more bottom 6 forwards?
- Feds91Stammer

Without having to mortgage the complete future (2022 1st and 2nd rnd pick, poulin, legare, POJ, 2021 2nd rd pick) I think that’s exactly our biggest need is really good middle 6 players yes.

I very highly doubt you are getting a top 3 forward or high end top 6 scoring forward without mortgaging what’s left which I think would be horrendously stupid to do at this point.

Was listening to the Fan this morning. They pointed out that Washington has 7 of its 12 wins over Buff and/or NJ. Philly has 5 of 12 wins over those teams. Pens have yet to play either team. 16 games coming.

Without having to mortgage the complete future (2022 1st and 2nd rnd pick, poulin, legare, POJ, 2021 2nd rd pick) I think that’s exactly our biggest need is really good middle 6 players yes.

I very highly doubt you are getting a top 3 forward or high end top 6 scoring forward without mortgaging what’s left which I think would be horrendously stupid to do at this point.
- pens4life-66

This team is lacking high end talent in the forward department. We already have the middle six and bottom six players. (frank) the future, maximize Sid/Geno's time here and deal with the rest later. Adding a bunch of middle six players to the already middle six roster isn't going to do a damn thing.

Was listening to the Fan this morning. They pointed out that Washington has 7 of its 12 wins over Buff and/or NJ. Philly has 5 of 12 wins over those teams. Pens have yet to play either team. 16 games coming.
- madmike71

Yup! I don’t think it’s that far off (about 3 points) that the pens could be in 1st if even 1 of these 4 things were different,
option 1- Malkin and Letang were playing above average
Option 2- Jarry didn’t have league worst stats for 9 games
Option 3- injuries all at once 5 dmen together
Option 4- that pp and pk were both just league average or better

But here we are... bring on the sabres and devils for 14 games!

Speaking of Foligno, I just learned about the Parise/Foligno hat trick debacle and I’m kinda laughing at how (frank)ing angry people are at it. If Parise had managed to get Foligno that empty netter all the hockey guys out there would be jerking themselves off to how much of a team first #hockeyguy Parise is.