Feds91Stammer
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Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC Joined: 02.01.2012
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Dumo
Pettersson
Matheson
POJ
Rikkola
That's a lot of LD's. Something will have to give. - Rinosaur
POJ isn’t on the roster and will go to WBS where imo he belongs. Waive Riiki and put him on the taxi squad. |
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Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: San Diego, CA Joined: 06.17.2014
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Pens Inside Scoop@PensInsideScoop·18m
Now onto special teams work...
PP1) Letang, Malkin, Kapanen, Guentzel, Rust
PP2) Matheson, Marino, McCann, Angello, Rodrigues
LMAO Rodrigues on the second PP. He's going to be with Sid. - Thunderbolt
I think that’s because we don’t have any offensive talent at forward. Plugthony Angelo has been on the PP2 for over a week now and I am not worried that he is going to get a bigger role at even strength any time soon. We may see Rodrigues get bumped up when Kapanen has a particularly bad game, but I would legitimately be shocked if Sullivan goes back to Rodrigues first line to start games now that Kapanen has been integrated. |
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pens4life-66
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: BC Joined: 10.01.2013
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Playoff lineup:
Simon-Crosby-Rodrigues
Guentzel-Malkin-Rust
Zucker-McCann- Kapanen
ZAR-Blueger-Tanev
Forwards solved!!!
- awtr
Plug Foligno into Rodrigues, Zucker with sid, McCann to LW with Glendening at C and I love that lineup!
Zucker-Crosby-Foligno
Guentzel-Malkin-Rust
Mccann-Glendening- Kapanen
ZAR-Blueger-Tanev
Simon-Rod-Sciviour as extras
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Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: San Diego, CA Joined: 06.17.2014
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Plug Foligno into Rodrigues, Zucker with sid, McCann to LW with Glendening at C and I love that lineup!
Zucker-Crosby-Foligno
Guentzel-Malkin-Rust
Mccann-Glendening- Kapanen
ZAR-Blueger-Tanev
Simon-Rod-Sciviour as extras - pens4life-66
Absolutely have to switch Blueger and Glendening for this to work. |
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Just want to say that I predicted Ceci being very solid before the season. |
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MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF Joined: 12.12.2014
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Fvck Simon right now...his underlying numbers were good with Sid the first season all while barely producing then his play away from puck went down hill and production even more so...when it didnt have much room to get worse.
He's not as good as you're remembering.
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MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF Joined: 12.12.2014
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Plug Foligno into Rodrigues, Zucker with sid, McCann to LW with Glendening at C and I love that lineup!
Zucker-Crosby-Foligno
Guentzel-Malkin-Rust
Mccann-Glendening- Kapanen
ZAR-Blueger-Tanev
Simon-Rod-Sciviour as extras - pens4life-66
That looks good to me too.
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I'd be shopping Pettersson right now. He's a tough one to peg for trade value. |
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BeefCoon
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: PA Joined: 03.31.2016
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https://twitter.com/IneffectiveMath/status/1367160485607530502?s=20
That would be incorrect. He's definitely not worthless. He's easily better than Jank/Scevour/O Conner/insert grocery stick here. - j.boyd919
The guy stinks. I'm not saying that what we have on the 4th is any better but I don't see what would change with picking Simon up other than being another body. Unless of course you count him being put on the first line to put up three goals and 9 assists as a positive.
He looks like a productive hockey player on the ice and the fancy stats may back that up but his stat line is nothing but zeros. |
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Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC Joined: 02.01.2012
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Just want to say that I predicted Ceci being very solid before the season. - YouMeAndDupuis9
Ignoring on the fly starts. Pens D with 10+ GP Ceci has the highest O zone start per percent and the lowest D zone start percent. He’s been sheltered. He’s been fine. But arguably he’s been unnecessary as Ruhwedel is as good or better. |
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Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC Joined: 02.01.2012
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Plug Foligno into Rodrigues, Zucker with sid, McCann to LW with Glendening at C and I love that lineup!
Zucker-Crosby-Foligno
Guentzel-Malkin-Rust
Mccann-Glendening- Kapanen
ZAR-Blueger-Tanev
Simon-Rod-Sciviour as extras - pens4life-66
What assets are you acquiring players with? |
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MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF Joined: 12.12.2014
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Ignoring on the fly starts. Pens D with 10+ GP Ceci has the highest O zone start per percent and the lowest D zone start percent. He’s been sheltered. He’s been fine. But arguably he’s been unnecessary as Ruhwedel is as good or better. - Feds91Stammer
Agree with this...poor o'le Rudy.
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MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF Joined: 12.12.2014
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The guy stinks. I'm not saying that what we have on the 4th is any better but I don't see what would change with picking Simon up other than being another body. Unless of course you count him being put on the first line to put up three goals and 9 assists as a positive.
He looks like a productive hockey player on the ice and the fancy stats may back that up but his stat line is nothing but zeros. - BeefCoon
The guys who did those posts response to "I'm curious about Crosby's defensive on-ice results this season. Shots/expected goals etc. against are at career-low rates." was "I'm not sure, really. All of his linemates this year (Guentzel / Rust / Kapenen / Rodrigues) are guys who at various points in their earlier careers have been good or very good defensively. Zone starts generous but not unusually so for Crosby. I don't know"
I thought it was known that Erod was a good defensive guy before his first trip to the Pens...some seem to think this isnt the case of the guy |
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Thunderbolt
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Wampum, PA Joined: 01.20.2014
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I think that’s because we don’t have any offensive talent at forward. Plugthony Angelo has been on the PP2 for over a week now and I am not worried that he is going to get a bigger role at even strength any time soon. We may see Rodrigues get bumped up when Kapanen has a particularly bad game, but I would legitimately be shocked if Sullivan goes back to Rodrigues first line to start games now that Kapanen has been integrated. - Victoro311
Your use of logic and common sense make a valid point. I have absolutely no counter and agree 100%. Having said that Rodrigues is going to be on Sid's right side.
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Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC Joined: 02.01.2012
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The guys who did those posts response to "I'm curious about Crosby's defensive on-ice results this season. Shots/expected goals etc. against are at career-low rates." was "I'm not sure, really. All of his linemates this year (Guentzel / Rust / Kapenen / Rodrigues) are guys who at various points in their earlier careers have been good or very good defensively. Zone starts generous but not unusually so for Crosby. I don't know"
I thought it was known that Erod was a good defensive guy before his first trip to the Pens...some seem to think this isnt the case of the guy - MattStrat
Guentzel is horrible defensively. ERod is a fringe NHLer so any strengths will disappear with top line usage. Kap is meh defensively. Rust is usually solid. |
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MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF Joined: 12.12.2014
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Guentzel is horrible defensively. ERod is a fringe NHLer so any strengths will disappear with top line usage. Kap is meh defensively. Rust is usually solid. - Feds91Stammer
Yeah the point of my posting that was to shed light on the guy posting it haha. I did however think that before Erod was traded to Pens , that it was known he was good away from the puck. I could be thinking of someone else.
Do you think the Pens should pick up Simon?
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awtr
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Joined: 06.03.2020
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Plug Foligno into Rodrigues, Zucker with sid, McCann to LW with Glendening at C and I love that lineup!
Zucker-Crosby-Foligno
Guentzel-Malkin-Rust
Mccann-Glendening- Kapanen
ZAR-Blueger-Tanev
Simon-Rod-Sciviour as extras - pens4life-66
Why bother giving assets for Glendening when McCann has show to be effective at C?
Petts/prospect for Palmieri
Zucker-Crosby-Palmieri
Guentzel-Malkin-Rust
Simon-McCann-Kapanen
ZAR-Blueger-Tanev |
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Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC Joined: 02.01.2012
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Yeah the point of my posting that was to shed light on the guy posting it haha. I did however think that before Erod was traded to Pens , that it was known he was good away from the puck. I could be thinking of someone else.
Do you think the Pens should pick up Simon? - MattStrat
Simon would be a waste of an SPC imo. That ship sailed. They need a legit top 6 winger and a legit 4c and a miracle to heal Zuckers ankle. Otherwise they will be scratching and clawing for the opportunity to get smoked in the 1st round again. |
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Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC Joined: 02.01.2012
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Why bother giving assets for Glendening when McCann has show to be effective at C?
Petts/prospect for Palmieri
Zucker-Crosby-Palmieri
Guentzel-Malkin-Rust
Simon-McCann-Kapanen
ZAR-Blueger-Tanev - awtr
At this point you probably should look at McCann as Zuckers replacement for the season. Glendening gives you a shutdown center and a right handed face off guy while freeing up Blueger to be 3c in a more offensively oriented role. |
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Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Aliquippa, PA Joined: 11.11.2014
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Most of which are bums. Don’t see what’s so interesting. - Feds91Stammer
Curious to see how the new regime values guys. |
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Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC Joined: 02.01.2012
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Curious to see how the new regime values guys. - Tojo.
I would think Ruh isn’t high on their value list |
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Beatnic57
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Joined: 10.08.2019
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Malkin Stats in games without Sid:
GP: 146
GOALS: 77
APPLES: 121
PTS: 198
PTS/GM: 1.36 |
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Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC Joined: 02.01.2012
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Malkin Stats in games without Sid:
GP: 146
GOALS: 77
APPLES: 121
PTS: 198
PTS/GM: 1.36 - Beatnic57
How’s Sids stats without Malkin? |
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MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF Joined: 12.12.2014
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Simon would be a waste of an SPC imo. That ship sailed. They need a legit top 6 winger and a legit 4c and a miracle to heal Zuckers ankle. Otherwise they will be scratching and clawing for the opportunity to get smoked in the 1st round again. - Feds91Stammer
Yeah I was never ever a Simon or Sheary hater while they were with Pens but I really dont like the idea of either of them ever coming back. Those ships have indeed sailed. |
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pens4life-66
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: BC Joined: 10.01.2013
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What assets are you acquiring players with? - Feds91Stammer
Just going off what tsn said but Glendening would be worth a “mid round pick” so to be nice let’s do a -2022 3rd pick
Foligno haven’t heard to much of a “sourced” trade value but just from wild fans and looking at what recent comparable player values went for it seems a player, prospect, higher pick is what gets a trade done.
With Suter coming up on 37 and from the sounds of it finally looking like he’s slowing down, I think Pettersson fits there for sure for the player, wild have been “sourced” as wanting goalie prospects as recently as 2020 draft so we have 2 of them Blomqvist or Clang they can pick, and a pick would be the 2022 2nd rounder.
If they really wanted add Legare in the deal as I think Valterri Puustinen (once he signs a deal 7th round pick) is gonna surprise a lot of people as he’s playing in Liiga at 20 years old and has 32 points in 36 games. |
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