Here are goalies drafted in the first round over the last 15 years:
Yaroslav Askarov(2020, 11th overall)
Spencer Knight (2019, 13th overall)
Jake Oettinger (2017, 26th overall)
Ilya Samsonov (2015, 22nd overall)
Andre Vasilevskiy (2012, 19th overall)
Jack Campbell (2010, 11th overall)
Chet Pickard (2008, 18th overall)
Jonathan Bernier (2006, 11th overall)
Semyon Varlamov (2006, 23rd overall)
Chris Summers (2006, 29th overall)
Here are some of the top goalies this season (other than Vasilevskiy)
Grubauer - 4th round
Hellebuyck - 5th round
Binnington - 3rd round
Andersen - 7th round, 3rd round

No reason to draft a goalie in the first round. Hawks have Commesso who they drafted last year in the second round. Better to spend high round draft capital on skaters.
- TheTrob

I won't debate it but things have progressed and the really good 17/18 olds that are identified now are not so much reaches. Gibson, Markström, Vasilesky
We will see if Askarov is with all his athletic "giggle."

I would love to tell you the league ranks Drew Commeso & Jesper Wallstedt.

If the Hawks are drafting as a playoff team not sure Jesper is there 16 on.

I redid my entire board after postigvtaht yesterday, take a look.

If it was me, I would simply take Dach's brother with the first rounder.

I think you guarantee you get a hockey player...
https://www.lines.com/nhl/drafts

This three days off seems forever!
- mohel

Indeed they are... Can't wait until tomorrow night

https://twitter.com/BySco.../1367238239480926208?s=01

https://twitter.com/ByScottPowers/status/1367238239480926208?s=01
- BetweenTheDots

Big kid. Too bad he's never coming over.

The "why" was in reference to why we should go with Wiz's information as you originally wrote. Are we supposed to believe everything he posts on the subject?
- boilermaker100

A more careful writing on my behalf and more careful reading on your behalf clears up some questions. At least partially.
So I will re -state and better explain from a previous post. As well check for grammer and auto correct which I too hastily rush through but will take time to fix from now on).

I personally believe Wiz knows something. I haven't spoke or communicated with him on this subject, so I cannot say for sure what is the basis on his comments. I know, however, that he knows people in the NHL. I will not divulge a couple of people he knows (who I am aware of) as that is his business.

Wiz though has invested over 50 years at one time or another talking to a player or people within management. He used to attend NHL drafts and see some of them there. Wiz has chronicled this in bits and pieces on hockeybuzz

I alluded to Paul Harvey and his reknown rest of the story. As comparison to wiz with the Toews story, my suspicion is that later on Wiz will find out stuff - if he doesn't already know. Then, perhaps if wiz volunteers more information....

I speculated, furthermore, that following the end of this season, Bowman will need to make decisions on the status of not only Toews, but Seabrook and Shaw too. Therefore by opening game next season fans should expect more relevant, concrete information on the health status of each player. The salary cap management is critical to the team's success and we know that each player is going to factor into whatever decision are made. They make too much money to be ignored.

Whether we get the full story by next season or sooner, when I said it will come out in the wash....it will since their health and contribution to ever play again is considered and has some sort of affect in the decisions made regarding The Expansion Draft, The Entry Draft, and the opening roster next season.

As for Wiz reporting news but not giving his source(s), this happens all the time in media. This may appear somewhat insensitive to some readers. I personally do not have a problem with it. As a young man I pursued and even completed a journalism internship. So I look at it as if I were a reporter.

I won't debate it but things have progressed and the really good 17/18 olds that are identified now are not so much reaches. Gibson, Markström, Vasilesky
We will see if Askarov is with all his athletic "giggle."

I would love to tell you the league ranks Drew Commeso & Jesper Wallstedt.

If the Hawks are drafting as a playoff team not sure Jesper is there 16 on.

I redid my entire board after postigvtaht yesterday, take a look.

If it was me, I would simply take Dach's brother with the first rounder.

I think you guarantee you get a hockey player...
https://www.lines.com/nhl/drafts
- wiz1901

YOU MISTAKENLY included Chris Summers. He was a dman occasionally played forward..

Last blog Jhawk, I thought you wanted them to draft a center #1.
- LAHawk

Until our goaltenders showed well this season, I was aware we should draft best player available but I really wanted to go after "need" first and foremost

After studying the draft and asking some questions, I learned that the top eleven is tier this 2021 draft. I do not count on Chicago drafting high enough to draft eleven or earlier. Additionally, I learned that there is probably not a good fit center to draft within top eleven for two reasons: compatability for Kane, and simply not a strong top six. The 2022 draft is where to hope you could select higher impact center

More on the drafting process:

I feel that the best way to propel this team on a successful playoff path for the next few years (aside from the rebuild on the fly) would be if YES IF we could land a center whom helps Kane be in the top league lelders. He is our top offensive player and is more dangerou if he had a really skilled point producing linematte. Anyway, Kane is scoring at a pace beyond imagination if you were to guess how well he does once this season was just underway.

Needs aside it remains preferred to take the best player available. As for goaltenders, certainly drafting outside of round one has worked well. There has been some netminders taken early the past few years....but taking one in top ten is practicly unheard of ....go back to C Price. I cannot disagree with the "draft a goaltender later on" sentiment on this hockey board.

A more careful writing on my behalf and more careful reading on your behalf clears up some questions. At least partially.
So I will re -state and better explain from a previous post. As well check for grammer and auto correct which I too hastily rush through but will take time to fix from now on).

I personally believe Wiz knows something. I haven't spoke or communicated with him on this subject, so I cannot say for sure what is the basis on his comments. I know, however, that he knows people in the NHL. I will not divulge a couple of people he knows (who I am aware of) as that is his business.

Wiz though has invested over 50 years at one time or another talking to a player or people within management. He used to attend NHL drafts and see some of them there. Wiz has chronicled this in bits and pieces on hockeybuzz

I alluded to Paul Harvey and his reknown rest of the story. As comparison to wiz with the Toews story, my suspicion is that later on Wiz will find out stuff - if he doesn't already know. Then, perhaps if wiz volunteers more information....

I speculated, furthermore, that following the end of this season, Bowman will need to make decisions on the status of not only Toews, but Seabrook and Shaw too. Therefore by opening game next season fans should expect more relevant, concrete information on the health status of each player. The salary cap management is critical to the team's success and we know that each player is going to factor into whatever decision are made. They make too much money to be ignored.

Whether we get the full story by next season or sooner, when I said it will come out in the wash....it will since their health and contribution to ever play again is considered and has some sort of affect in the decisions made regarding The Expansion Draft, The Entry Draft, and the opening roster next season.

As for Wiz reporting news but not giving his source(s), this happens all the time in media. This may appear somewhat insensitive to some readers. I personally do not have a problem with it. As a young man I pursued and even completed a journalism internship. So I look at it as if I were a reporter.
- jhawk59

Please don't question my reading abilities. When I posted my original response to your post, I made a point of only posting one paragraph of your epistle. This paragraph was the one where you said we should believe what Wiz posted. I asked "why", meaning why should we believe him. What exactly did I misread?

A more careful writing on my behalf and more careful reading on your behalf clears up some questions. At least partially.
So I will re -state and better explain from a previous post. As well check for grammer and auto correct which I too hastily rush through but will take time to fix from now on).

I personally believe Wiz knows something. I haven't spoke or communicated with him on this subject, so I cannot say for sure what is the basis on his comments. I know, however, that he knows people in the NHL. I will not divulge a couple of people he knows (who I am aware of) as that is his business.

Wiz though has invested over 50 years at one time or another talking to a player or people within management. He used to attend NHL drafts and see some of them there. Wiz has chronicled this in bits and pieces on hockeybuzz

I alluded to Paul Harvey and his reknown rest of the story. As comparison to wiz with the Toews story, my suspicion is that later on Wiz will find out stuff - if he doesn't already know. Then, perhaps if wiz volunteers more information....

I speculated, furthermore, that following the end of this season, Bowman will need to make decisions on the status of not only Toews, but Seabrook and Shaw too. Therefore by opening game next season fans should expect more relevant, concrete information on the health status of each player. The salary cap management is critical to the team's success and we know that each player is going to factor into whatever decision are made. They make too much money to be ignored.

Whether we get the full story by next season or sooner, when I said it will come out in the wash....it will since their health and contribution to ever play again is considered and has some sort of affect in the decisions made regarding The Expansion Draft, The Entry Draft, and the opening roster next season.

As for Wiz reporting news but not giving his source(s), this happens all the time in media. This may appear somewhat insensitive to some readers. I personally do not have a problem with it. As a young man I pursued and even completed a journalism internship. So I look at it as if I were a reporter.
- jhawk59

We will know how serious Toews illness is, if the Hawks seek to have him Exempt from needing to be protected or not for the expansion draft because he didn’t play this year and the illness is considered life threatening.

YOU MISTAKENLY included Chris Summers. He was a dman occasionally played forward..
- jhawk59

There no Chris Summers on my 224 displayed player list.

Until our goaltenders showed well this season, I was aware we should draft best player available but I really wanted to go after "need" first and foremost

After studying the draft and asking some questions, I learned that the top eleven is tier this 2021 draft. I do not count on Chicago drafting high enough to draft eleven or earlier. Additionally, I learned that there is probably not a good fit center to draft within top eleven for two reasons: compatability for Kane, and simply not a strong top six. The 2022 draft is where to hope you could select higher impact center

More on the drafting process:

I feel that the best way to propel this team on a successful playoff path for the next few years (aside from the rebuild on the fly) would be if YES IF we could land a center whom helps Kane be in the top league lelders. He is our top offensive player and is more dangerou if he had a really skilled point producing linematte. Anyway, Kane is scoring at a pace beyond imagination if you were to guess how well he does once this season was just underway.

Needs aside it remains preferred to take the best player available. As for goaltenders, certainly drafting outside of round one has worked well. There has been some netminders taken early the past few years....but taking one in top ten is practicly unheard of ....go back to C Price. I cannot disagree with the "draft a goaltender later on" sentiment on this hockey board.
- jhawk59

Couple of thoughts on the center depth, not sure how realistic....

I see you are talking draft and the Blackhawks will probably be 13-18, as you say below top tier - but is Raty still being discounted and would he fall through as Teravainen did a few years ago? And would he be worth taking there... In any case he might need a little longer than was anticipated a year or so ago.

Otherwise, is it time for a free-agency acquisition?

I think the cap situation may be OK though as there are some reductions:

1.00 M - no longer retained on Saad
3.25 M - Z. Smith UFA
2.275 M - trade deHaan with half retained
3.25 M - Zadorov to Seattle in expansion draft
2.20 M - currently under cap

That is about 12 M or so, there are some raises for DeBrincat, Strome, Suter, Hagel, etc.

So that brings up whether it is time to invest in a mid-to-high priced free agent, or is it too soon? There might be enough there to get Nugent-Hopkins (8M or so).

Or is there some other 6-million-dollar center that would be worth the contract?

Big kid. Too bad he's never coming over.
- Chunk

Who cares at this point. Power has an unnatural obsession with Shalunov and he knows he can't make in the NHL and that is why he has never come over.

We will know how serious Toews illness is, if the Hawks seek to have him Exempt from needing to be protected or not for the expansion draft because he didn’t play this year and the illness is considered life threatening.
- LAHawk

Maybe I'm wrong, but doesn't Toews' NMC which prevents him from being exposed without his waiving, trump (can I say that?) the non-playing for 60 games/life threatening clause?

These expansion draft rules are just as complicated as the LTIR rules.

Maybe I'm wrong, but doesn't Toews' NMC which prevents him from being exposed without his waiving, trump (can I say that?) the non-playing for 60 games/life threatening clause?

These expansion draft rules are just as complicated as the LTIR rules.
- boilermaker100[/Players with potential career-ending injuries who have missed more than the previous 60 consecutive games may not be used to satisfy a team’s player exposure requirements unless approval is received from the NHL. These players will be deemed exempt from selection. Ryan Kesler would be a good example of a player that fits in this category. Due to injuries, Kesler has not played a game since the 2018-19 season and is unlikely to take the ice next season, even though he is under contract until 2022. In this scenario, Kesler cannot be used to fulfill one of the spots in the two-forward exposure requirement.
These exposure requirements are designed to guarantee the 30 NHL teams participating make legitimate NHL-level players available to Seattle.

Who cares at this point. Power has an unnatural obsession with Shalunov and he knows he can't make in the NHL and that is why he has never come over.
- Elbows15

He was also obsessed with Sikura. He does some good writing and posting/analysis of highlight vids, but he may never make a great scout.

Maybe I'm wrong, but doesn't Toews' NMC which requires him from being exposed without his waiving, trump (can I say that?) the non-playing for 60 games/life threatening clause?

These expansion draft rules are just as complicated as the LTIR rules.
- boilermaker100

Thought I read somewhere that the NMC would take precedence. In any case, I don't think the Blackhawks will even worry about it, they can protect pretty much everyone since most all the young guys are exempt (assuming they take the 7F-3D-1G option).

Maybe:

Protected:
Toews - Kane - DeBrincat - Kubalik - Strome - Nylander - Kampf

Exposed:

Wallmark - Highmore - Carpenter - Shaw - Quenneville - B. Morrison

Looks like everyone else is a free agent or exempt, including Suter and Kurashev.

Know you have been following this too. BTW, does the "boilermaker" refer to Purdue?

Maybe I'm wrong, but doesn't Toews' NMC which prevents him from being exposed without his waiving, trump (can I say that?) the non-playing for 60 games/life threatening clause?

These expansion draft rules are just as complicated as the LTIR rules.
- boilermaker100

Seems logical they would not have to explain why he is not being exposed (if they do find a career-limiting illness) because his NMC protects him from that anyway.

Thought I read somewhere that the NMC would take precedence. In any case, I don't think the Blackhawks will even worry about it, they can protect pretty much everyone since most all the young guys are exempt (assuming they take the 7F-3D-1G option).

Maybe:

Protected:
Toews - Kane - DeBrincat - Kubalik - Strome - Nylander - Kampf

Exposed:

Wallmark - Highmore - Carpenter - Shaw - Quenneville - B. Morrison

Looks like everyone else is a free agent or exempt, including Suter and Kurashev.

Know you have been following this too. BTW, does the "boilermaker" refer to Purdue?
- totem

Kubalik doesn't have to be protected because he is among the two years or less players. Maybe put Hagel in his spot since he is a 3rd year pro.

Yes, I'm a Purdue grad.

I did - for awhile, and Theo and moderators could easily take it down.
I thought on it - I think this gets us to a real press release.

Some understanding, and not speculation on what is going on.

You think I don't love the kid, wish him well?

I do not see it on any other sites, or any probings being done because I told my hockey family that this is where things are.
If what I believe to be a truth is something you have trouble with, keep to yourself.

I didn't tweet it. I have an account.

Not the I haven't be accused my entire life of bad decisions, I am sorry if you find fault in MY decision, and as all of my mistakes I will have to live with it.
As you will if you spread it.
I only told my wife as I was typing it, my hockey friend /neighbors I haven't said anything.
- wiz1901

Wiz I guess your missing the point. Whether what you say is the truth or not it wasn’t your place to say it. It’s toews right to say or not say no one else’s I enjoy your draft pick website but this one should’ve stayed in your head

I did - for awhile, and Theo and moderators could easily take it down.
I thought on it - I think this gets us to a real press release.

Some understanding, and not speculation on what is going on.

You think I don't love the kid, wish him well?

I do not see it on any other sites, or any probings being done because I told my hockey family that this is where things are.
If what I believe to be a truth is something you have trouble with, keep to yourself.

I didn't tweet it. I have an account.

Not the I haven't be accused my entire life of bad decisions, I am sorry if you find fault in MY decision, and as all of my mistakes I will have to live with it.
As you will if you spread it.
I only told my wife as I was typing it, my hockey friend /neighbors I haven't said anything.
- wiz1901

You didn't just tell your hockey family, you told the whole world via a post on the internet. If you "believe" it to be true, you should have said so. You said it as if you "knew" it were true. If you do have real information, you took from him the option of controlling the release of it, which in my opinion is his right and not yours.

I truly believe you do care about the kid. You seem like a solid person to me.

Kubalik doesn't have to be protected because he is among the two years or less players. Maybe put Hagel in his spot since he is a 3rd year pro.

Yes, I'm a Purdue grad.
- boilermaker100

Yes, you're right, thanks for the correction, Kubalik is exempt and Hagel would be the guy to protect next. Still think no worries in expansion draft regarding forwards. Will probably lose one of Zadorov, Carlsson, or Subban. It worked out pretty well overall.

Asked because I am Purdue grad also, 1982.

[quote=boilermaker100]Maybe I'm wrong, but doesn't Toews' NMC which prevents him from being exposed without his waiving, trump (can I say that?) the non-playing for 60 games/life threatening clause?

These expansion draft rules are just as complicated as the LTIR rules.
- LAHawk[/Players with potential career-ending injuries who have missed more than the previous 60 consecutive games may not be used to satisfy a team’s player exposure requirements unless approval is received from the NHL. These players will be deemed exempt from selection. Ryan Kesler would be a good example of a player that fits in this category. Due to injuries, Kesler has not played a game since the 2018-19 season and is unlikely to take the ice next season, even though he is under contract until 2022. In this scenario, Kesler cannot be used to fulfill one of the spots in the two-forward exposure requirement.
These exposure requirements are designed to guarantee the 30 NHL teams participating make legitimate NHL-level players available to Seattle.

Yes, but in this instance the injured players - Toews and Seabrook - wouldn't be exposed anyway to fulfill the exposure requirement since they have NMC's. So it's a moot point isn't it? Hawks have Highmore and Carpenter as the two F and Z, deHaan and Murphy as any of the 1 D that meet this exposure requirement.

I did - for awhile, and Theo and moderators could easily take it down.
I thought on it - I think this gets us to a real press release.

Some understanding, and not speculation on what is going on.

You think I don't love the kid, wish him well?

I do not see it on any other sites, or any probings being done because I told my hockey family that this is where things are.
If what I believe to be a truth is something you have trouble with, keep to yourself.

I didn't tweet it. I have an account.

Not the I haven't be accused my entire life of bad decisions, I am sorry if you find fault in MY decision, and as all of my mistakes I will have to live with it.
As you will if you spread it.
I only told my wife as I was typing it, my hockey friend /neighbors I haven't said anything.
- wiz1901

Who are we to think they report to us regarding their personal lives? Now you're really over the line.

Yes, but in this instance the injured players - Toews and Seabrook - wouldn't be exposed anyway to fulfill the exposure requirement since they have NMC's. So it's a moot point isn't it? Hawks have Highmore and Carpenter as the two F and Z, deHaan and Murphy as any of the 1 D that meet these exposure requirement.
- boilermaker100

No, every player with more than two years must be exposed or protected. A few of them need to be guys that have played in the league recently. The minimum exposure requirement is just that, a minimum. Seabs and Toews (Kane and Keith, too) must be protected, although the league may eliminate them from all lists if they're not going to play again. This would allow the team to protect two more players.

Yes, but in this instance the injured players - Toews and Seabrook - wouldn't be exposed anyway to fulfill the exposure requirement since they have NMC's. So it's a moot point isn't it? Hawks have Highmore and Carpenter as the two F and Z, deHaan and Murphy as any of the 1 D that meet this exposure requirement.
- boilermaker100

I think Zadorov does not qualify on the "signed past this year" part as he is an RFA. Signing Bowey to 2 years gives the option to trade deHaan before the expansion draft (if Murphy is protected). In any case, as you say, all is covered.

Would say Stan and the rest of the front office did a good job on this. Don't want to lose any players but they have minimized the cost of the expansion draft to the rebuild. If the worst case is losing Carlsson or Zadorov, that is pretty good planning.