Look so Wiz opened up. That is his prerogative. But instead of judging him, just go with the information.Believe it or not. Calling him out serves no purpose. Except maybe if you have thin skin. So what. Move on. Maybe more believe he shouldn't have divulged anything. But let's not keep the narrative about whether he did right or wrong. Unless you especially like to tweet repeatedly about the same point like a famous tweeter whom recently was put in his place.
- jhawk59

Why?

Wiz knows people. He hears things. THIS IS A FACT. HE GOES WAY WAY BACK. Whether he heard something that is completely true, I don't know. Did he hear part of the story. Is this like A Paul Harvey thing, "and now for the rest of the story."

I know Wiz and he would not subject himself to ridicule. If he is going to bother to say something, he means it.

Now whether it is right to disclose sensitive information, I just think sometimes some people get tired of the same old ring around the collar. Unsubstantiated. Maybe Wiz cannot say NOW or maybe LATER he can. I do foresee after The Expansion Draft the annual re-tooling that hockey teams engage in - including The Entry Draft and all summer long free agency - at some point the Seabrook and Toews health update becomes known. They are public figures and we can be sensitive to their wishes and their privacy. But sooner or later it comes out in the wash. We are not going to be held in the dark forever

Consider: Bowman has salary cap issues next season. Likely Shaw is long term and presently we are grasping and guessing about the Seabrook and and Toews situation

After game one next season (however it works I am not certain) Shaw goes on long term Injury. I suspect that Seabrook aND Toews may both not be ready because they have lingering health issues. But alas I am guessing

Look so Wiz opened up. That is his prerogative. But instead of judging him, just go with the information. Believe it or not. Calling him out serves no purpose. Except maybe if you have thin skin. So what. Move on. Maybe more believe he shouldn't have divulged anything. But let's not keep the narrative about whether he did right or wrong. Unless you especially like to tweet repeatedly about the same point like a famous tweeter whom recently was put in his place

Let's talk instead about the repercussion. I for one think Toews may never be the same center he once was. My hope is that if he plays again and if we are in a playoff tilt, there may be some of the old flash that he is able to produce for a few plays, a period, a game, a series. That would be a fitting tribute to the Captain.
- jhawk59

I had trouble following much of this, so response is difficult.

If Wiz found out something about Toews, the right thing would be to keep it to himself.

All I wish Toews is good health. Whether he plays another game for the Hawks or not is secondary.
- LAHawk

Bravo!

On other subjects:

Rumor Nalinov our drafted goaltender is coming over to North America; he got out of his Russian contract. There is no room for him now, but perhaps Delia gets squeezed out. Not sure Delia contract terms but figure they could dump him no matter and give the Russian a look. With the semi good emergence of two NHL netminders, even if we were in position to draft the Swedish kid in round one 2021, I doubt that Stan would.

Unfortunately after the top 11-12 in 2021 the tier II prospects pop. Wiz has told me, however, that the 2022 draft already shapes up as the deepest high end quality and into mid rounds....the best draft class in ten years.

I am quite curious if a Kaiser and or Kalynuk eventually emerge as the solid third pair. One of them might make it to a higher pairing if a big kid who has some physicality can make it on a third pair. Such as Vlasic. Beaudin might fit here on this blueline crew but the real key for the entire defense LONG TERM is going to be whether staying healthy and development occurs Mitchell first pair and Boqvust second pair. And Carlsson is going to ft in anywhere real nice. OK, I will shut up about this predictions and see how it turns out.

I had trouble following much of this, so response is difficult.

If Wiz found out something about Toews, the right thing would be to keep it to himself.
- mohel

I agree. There really was no good to posting that whether true or not. There has been all kinds of speculation on here about CFS, Mono, Covid and a million other reasons people have come up with. Even if there was some kind of "inside" info or leak that he found out, even a post of "Toews condition worse than originally thought" would be wrong, as it would just set off a new firestorm of theories and speculations. While all of us want to know (and hope for the best), it is best to wait until Toews, et al, are ready to make a statement as to condition and future.

Why?
- boilermaker100

My analysis: Not difficult to ascertain how well he plays when he returns - if he returns we know long season, lots of mileage. Conceivably may still be descent but not the same player he once was. Maybe he would have his moments

On the other hand, until we learn about Toews health and hockey future, there isn't much to say whether he comes back or not. There is no percentage yes he does or not. We have no data to make a spurious call.

Bravo!

On other subjects:

Rumor Nalinov our drafted goaltender is coming over to North America; he got out if his Russian contract. There is no room for him now, but perhaps Delia gets squeezed out. Not sure Delia contra t terms but figure they could dump him no matter and give the Russian a look. With the semi good emergence of two NHL netminders, even if we were in position to draft the Swedish kid in round one 2021, I doubt that Stan would.

Unfortunately after the top 11-12 in 2021 the tier II prospects.pop. Wiz has told me, however, that the 2022 draft already shapes up as the deepest high end quality and into mid rounds....the best draft class in ten years.

I am quite curious if a Kaiser and or Kalynuk eventualk emerge as the solid third pair. One of them might make it to a higher pairing if a big kid who has some physicality can make it on a third pair. Such as Vlasic. Beaudin might fit here but the real key fir the entire defense LONG TERM is going to be whether staying healthy and development occurs Mitchell instead pair and Boqvust second pair. And Carlsson is going to ft in anywhere real nice. OK, I will shut up about this predictions and see how it turns out.
- jhawk59

Man, you just murder names consistently (or type with your toes )

Nalimov info: https://www.prohockeyrumo...is-career-in-the-u-s.html

The Swedish goalie you speak of is Jesper Wallstedt, and as I responded in a previous post, value wise, very few goalies drafted in the first round, and even less in the top 10. Last goalie drafted in the top ten was Price at #5 in 2005.

My analysis: Not difficult to ascertain how well he plays when he returns - if he returns we know long season, lots of mileage. Conceivably may still be descent but not the same player he once was. Maybe he would have his moments

On the other hand, until we learn about Toews health and hockey future, there isn't much to say whether he comes back or not. There is no percentage yes he does or not. We have no data to make a spurious call.
- jhawk59

The question was "Why should we just go with the information that was posted"?

Man, you just murder names consistently (or type with your toes )

Nalimov info: https://www.prohockeyrumo...is-career-in-the-u-s.html

The Swedish goalie you speak of is Jesper Wallstedt, and as I responded in a previous post, value wise, very few goalies drafted in the first round, and even less in the top 10. Last goalie drafted in the top ten was Price at #5 in 2005.
- TheTrob

I agreed with you about drafting a goalender so early. Maybe this kid moves up no higher than to the #10 position if a team really wants a goaltender - see last year's draft. And previous draft Florida took Knight around #15 in round one

I agreed with you about drafting a goalender so early. Maybe this kid moves up no higher than to the #10 position if a team really wants a goaltender - see last year's draft. And previous draft Florida took Knight around #15 in round one
- jhawk59

Last blog Jhawk, I thought you wanted them to draft a center #1.

My analysis: Not difficult to ascertain how well he plays when he returns - if he returns we know long season, lots of mileage. Conceivably may still be descent but not the same player he once was. Maybe he would have his moments

On the other hand, until we learn about Toews health and hockey future, there isn't much to say whether he comes back or not. There is no percentage yes he does or not. We have no data to make a spurious call.
- jhawk59

The "why" was in reference to why we should go with Wiz's information as you originally wrote. Are we supposed to believe everything he posts on the subject?

Last blog Jhawk, I thought you wanted them to draft a center #1.
- LAHawk

Times change.

My analysis: Not difficult to ascertain how well he plays when he returns - if he returns we know long season, lots of mileage. Conceivably may still be descent but not the same player he once was. Maybe he would have his moments

On the other hand, until we learn about Toews health and hockey future, there isn't much to say whether he comes back or not. There is no percentage yes he does or not. We have no data to make a spurious call.
- jhawk59

But you posted earlier that we should go with Wiz's info. Now you're saying we should learn more about Toews' situation before we determine his hockey future.

His post said; you heard it here first, and looks like Toews has a form of ALS. Made it sound like he knew. So, as written, he's either acting like a Richard to the board or he disclosed private information he shouldn't have. But.....Wiz often seems to type with his feet, so maybe he meant something totally different than what he typed.

Hopefully what he wrote is untrue. For Toews' sake.
- mohel

Mo that's why I said it. His post's aren't the best grammar. However I see your point of view and it's valid.

Plus that does not align with Bowman's statement of it being non-life threatening.
- RaleighHawk

At this point who knows anything. But exactly good point.

I agreed with you about drafting a goalender so early. Maybe this kid moves up no higher than to the #10 position if a team really wants a goaltender - see last year's draft. And previous draft Florida took Knight around #15 in round one
- jhawk59

Here are goalies drafted in the first round over the last 15 years:
Yaroslav Askarov(2020, 11th overall)
Spencer Knight (2019, 13th overall)
Jake Oettinger (2017, 26th overall)
Ilya Samsonov (2015, 22nd overall)
Andre Vasilevskiy (2012, 19th overall)
Jack Campbell (2010, 11th overall)
Chet Pickard (2008, 18th overall)
Jonathan Bernier (2006, 11th overall)
Semyon Varlamov (2006, 23rd overall)
Chris Summers (2006, 29th overall)


Here are some of the top goalies this season (other than Vasilevskiy)
Grubauer - 4th round
Hellebuyck - 5th round
Binnington - 3rd round
Andersen - 7th round, 3rd round

No reason to draft a goalie in the first round. Hawks have Commesso who they drafted last year in the second round. Better to spend high round draft capital on skaters.

Here are goalies drafted in the first round over the last 15 years:
Yaroslav Askarov(2020, 11th overall)
Spencer Knight (2019, 13th overall)
Jake Oettinger (2017, 26th overall)
Ilya Samsonov (2015, 22nd overall)
Andre Vasilevskiy (2012, 19th overall)
Jack Campbell (2010, 11th overall)
Chet Pickard (2008, 18th overall)
Jonathan Bernier (2006, 11th overall)
Semyon Varlamov (2006, 23rd overall)
Chris Summers (2006, 29th overall)


Here are some of the top goalies this season (other than Vasilevskiy)
Grubauer - 4th round
Hellebuyck - 5th round
Binnington - 3rd round
Andersen - 7th round, 3rd round

No reason to draft a goalie in the first round. Hawks have Commesso who they drafted last year in the second round. Better to spend high round draft capital on skaters.
- TheTrob

Lankinen - Undrafted!

Here are goalies drafted in the first round over the last 15 years:
Yaroslav Askarov(2020, 11th overall)
Spencer Knight (2019, 13th overall)
Jake Oettinger (2017, 26th overall)
Ilya Samsonov (2015, 22nd overall)
Andre Vasilevskiy (2012, 19th overall)
Jack Campbell (2010, 11th overall)
Chet Pickard (2008, 18th overall)
Jonathan Bernier (2006, 11th overall)
Semyon Varlamov (2006, 23rd overall)
Chris Summers (2006, 29th overall)


Here are some of the top goalies this season (other than Vasilevskiy)
Grubauer - 4th round
Hellebuyck - 5th round
Binnington - 3rd round
Andersen - 7th round, 3rd round

No reason to draft a goalie in the first round. Hawks have Commesso who they drafted last year in the second round. Better to spend high round draft capital on skaters.
- TheTrob

Agree not to draft a G inthe 1st round. Pick a promising F or D instead. A good goalie could be
drafted in a later round.

Mo that's why I said it. His post's aren't the best grammar. However I see your point of view and it's valid.
- BGKarras

I was agreeing with you more than my writing made it seem.

Times change.
- mohel

On this board? Nah, that never happens.

Lankinen - Undrafted!

- Chunk

You want a goalie just go to the KHL and sign T. Bilyalov as a ufa. He is available and want to come to the NHL. Many teams are interested or were last year but Covid discouraged him from leaving. He is available and he is arguably the best goalie in Russia. He is on par with Sorokin and Shesterkin so that should give you an idea. He will be in the NHL next year, what team I don't know but he will be signed.

I was agreeing with you more than my writing made it seem.
- mohel

Another reason not to draft a goalie in the 1st round, Malcolm Subban.

You want a goalie just go to the KHL and sign T. Bilyalov as a ufa. He is available and want to come to the NHL. Many teams are interested or were last year but Covid discouraged him from leaving. He is available and he is arguably the best goalie in Russia. He is on par with Sorokin and Shesterkin so that should give you an idea. He will be in the NHL next year, what team I don't know but he will be signed.
- joegreif17

If the Rangers hear we want him they will sign him to play with Kane until Comesso gets there.

I was agreeing with you more than my writing made it seem.
- mohel

I thought that's what you were saying. It's all good Sir

I thought that's what you were saying. It's all good Sir
- BGKarras

This three days off seems forever!

I had trouble following much of this, so response is difficult.

If Wiz found out something about Toews, the right thing would be to keep it to himself.
- mohel

I did - for awhile, and Theo and moderators could easily take it down.
I thought on it - I think this gets us to a real press release.

Some understanding, and not speculation on what is going on.

You think I don't love the kid, wish him well?

I do not see it on any other sites, or any probings being done because I told my hockey family that this is where things are.
If what I believe to be a truth is something you have trouble with, keep to yourself.

I didn't tweet it. I have an account.

Not the I haven't be accused my entire life of bad decisions, I am sorry if you find fault in MY decision, and as all of my mistakes I will have to live with it.
As you will if you spread it.
I only told my wife as I was typing it, my hockey friend /neighbors I haven't said anything.