Carey Price had Chronic Fatigue Syndrome a few years ago

https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/report-canadiens-price-suffered-chronic-fatigue-start-season/#:~:text=Montreal%20Canadiens%20goaltender%20Carey%20Price,a%20report%20from%20TVA%20Sports.&text=Price's%20chronic%20fatigue%20wasn't,a%20nutritionist%20his%20wife%20recommended.
- glennjpawlak22

Can he blame his poor play this year on it?

In all seriousness, while everyone is concerned and wants information on Toews, speculative reports and guesses do not help anything. I think it's important to remember that while everyone knows what he means to the team and organization and selfishly want him back on the ice, the truly important thing is for him to take care of his own health.

Obviously just subjective, but I don't think Kubalik is fighting the puck at all. He's getting good shots off, and most of the time is getting himself into good scoring positions. He also hasn't seemed to fumble many pucks. His S% last year was at 20% (not really sustainable) and this year it's at 11%. I actually like his game better this year.
- Chunk

Middle of the ice not so much but along the boards is where i see it most like Cat last year. You are correct though it is subjective.

On another note if possession is so important can these guys, almost all of them are guilty of this, STOP with the no look passes!!!

Middle of the ice not so much but along the boards is where i see it most like Cat last year. You are correct though it is subjective.

On another note if possession is so important can these guys, almost all of them are guilty of this, STOP with the no look passes!!!
- BetweenTheDots

But it looks so cool! How are they going to do the "push-em-back" entry without them? I'm a minor fan of the no-look shots (although we've all ridiculed Keith of doing this from the point for the past five years).

As I posted in last forum (damn Theo is up early)

Smart business people take advantage of situations. I'm sure Rocky got a great deal due to Covid.

Haven't thought about all the business possibilities of owning both, but I'm sure they are many. Thought maybe this was a plan that McD had been cooking up for a while, and never lasted to see it through.
- vabeachbear

Anyone think they will move the team out of Rockford and closer to Chicago (Hoffman Estates maybe)?

Anyone think they will move the team out of Rockford and closer to Chicago (Hoffman Estates maybe)?
- JPBurke27

No. They have committed to redo the arena in rockford.

https://www.mystateline.c...ld-to-chicago-blackhawks/

Remember I told you first...it looks like Jonathan Toews may have a form of Lou Gehrig's disease /ALS.
- wiz1901

Wiz, if this is right or wrong you’re an idiot! If it’s wrong you’re despicable for posting bogus speculation. If your assertion is correct you’re even more despicable for making what has so far been kept under wraps public for Toews and his family. And the fact you’ve posted it (Remember I told you first) so you’re remembered for being the one who leaked makes you a disgusting human being.

Wiz, if this is right or wrong you’re an idiot! If it’s wrong you’re despicable for posting bogus speculation. If your assertion is correct you’re even more despicable for making what has so far been kept under wraps public for Toews and his family. And the fact you’ve posted it (Remember I told you first) so you’re remembered for being the one who leaked makes you a disgusting human being.
- paulr

Exactly correct. Discussing what MAY be going on with a beloved athlete is what fans do. Pretending to have inside knowledge is wrong. Having inside knowledge and putting it on the internet is also very wrong. The kind of stuff you hope his lawyer doesn't see.

Were I a HB executive, I'd want to step back from that.

Hey Theo, I read every day and enjoy without commenting often. Anyway Hats off to you my friend, you are officially in the top three bloggers on HB, right on par with Bill Meltzer imo. Yours are certainly the most interesting and thanks a million for making my morning cup of coffee a pleasure. I am really excited for the team because they are giving their all and playing exciting hockey, almost as exciting as your blogs, lol Take care.

Exactly correct. Discussing what MAY be going on with a beloved athlete is what fans do. Pretending to have inside knowledge is wrong. Having inside knowledge and putting it on the internet is also very wrong. The kind of stuff you hope his lawyer doesn't see.

Were I a HB executive, I'd want to step back from that.
- mohel

This

I think you guys need to lighten up. Every public Figure gives up a little of there privacy. Im pretty sure Teows is spending more time figuring out what he has and how to treat it then if things possible get leaked on a small board. People speculated on Craw when he was out. Kane after his incident. Keith and sharp. ETC. the fact that the NHL is in the dark ages when it comes to transparency does not change the fact that he is a public Figure and people have interest in him.

I think you guys need to lighten up. Every public Figure gives up a little of there privacy. Im pretty sure Teows is spending more time figuring out what he has and how to treat it then if things possible get leaked on a small board. People speculated on Craw when he was out. Kane after his incident. Keith and sharp. ETC. the fact that the NHL is in the dark ages when it comes to transparency does not change the fact that he is a public Figure and people have interest in him.
- kmw4631

Nope. Saying you believe he has ALS is what you describe. Saying you have inside knowledge is different, especially if you do. Toews obviously doesn't want it out there, or he would have released it himself. He has a right to privacy about medical records. Speculation is within bounds, this was not.

Nope. Saying you believe he has ALS is what you describe. Saying you have inside knowledge is different, especially if you do. Toews obviously doesn't want it out there, or he would have released it himself. He has a right to privacy about medical records. Speculation is within bounds, this was not.
- mohel

Correct. Leaking "Inside information" about health information is a serious violation of someones HIPPA rights. Saying, hmm, the reported symptoms point to ALS, CFS, etc. is something completely different.

Nope. Saying you believe he has ALS is what you describe. Saying you have inside knowledge is different, especially if you do. Toews obviously doesn't want it out there, or he would have released it himself. He has a right to privacy about medical records. Speculation is within bounds, this was not.
- mohel

your doctor and your employer cannot disclose your medical info without your authorization. It does not apply to every person.

your doctor and your employer cannot disclose your medical info without your authorization. It does not apply to every person.
- kmw4631

Yeah, well, ethically it should - and does.

Be a mensch: private situations that don’t involve harming other people should not be topics for speculation. Toews is a human being - let him have his privacy.

No. They have committed to redo the arena in rockford.

https://www.mystateline.c...ld-to-chicago-blackhawks/
- TheTrob

Ah, I hadn't seen that. Pretty cool for Rockford.

Yeah, well, ethically it should - and does.

Be a mensch: private situations that don’t involve harming other people should not be topics for speculation. Toews is a human being - let him have his privacy.
- StLBravesFan

+1 upding

It is also a violation of the HIPPA Act. Both illegal and unethical.
I pray Wiz does not get charged and prosecuted.

your doctor and your employer cannot disclose your medical info without your authorization. It does not apply to every person.
- kmw4631

You are correct, it does not necessarily apply to every person, so sure, Toews told a friend, who then inadvertently told someone else, etc. and then it becomes public.

However the HIPPA act is written in language such that: "A person who knowingly obtains or discloses individually identifiable health information in violation of the Privacy Rule may face a criminal penalty of up to $50,000 and up to one-year imprisonment. The criminal penalties increase to $100,000 and up to five years imprisonment if the wrongful conduct involves false pretenses, and to $250,000 and up to 10 years imprisonment if the wrongful conduct involves the intent to sell, transfer, or use identifiable health information for commercial advantage, personal gain or malicious harm. The Department of Justice is responsible for criminal prosecutions."


So interpret that how you may.

Nope. Saying you believe he has ALS is what you describe. Saying you have inside knowledge is different, especially if you do. Toews obviously doesn't want it out there, or he would have released it himself. He has a right to privacy about medical records. Speculation is within bounds, this was not.
- mohel

Hopefully Wiz can chime in and clarify what he said or meant to say. What I am saying is that I will give him the benefit of the doubt and allow him his opportunity to set the record straight. Regardless true or not the entire scenario of this situation is disturbing I'm hoping the best for Toews and God willing he is able to get back to the team and play the game he loves.

Whatever illness/condition Toews has, we will not know until Toews (and the Hawks) are ready to tell. Look how close a secret Hossa's skin condition was kept? And that was with being in the public eye of reporters, etc., and current and former teammates

Hopefully Wiz can chime in and clarify what he said or meant to say. What I am saying is that I will give him the benefit of the doubt and allow him his opportunity to set the record straight. Regardless true or not the entire scenario of this situation is disturbing I'm hoping the best for Toews and God willing he is able to get back to the team and play the game he loves.
- BGKarras

His post said; you heard it here first, and looks like Toews has a form of ALS. Made it sound like he knew. So, as written, he's either acting like a Richard to the board or he disclosed private information he shouldn't have. But.....Wiz often seems to type with his feet, so maybe he meant something totally different than what he typed.

Hopefully what he wrote is untrue. For Toews' sake.

Whatever illness/condition Toews has, we will not know until Toews (and the Hawks) are ready to tell. Look how close a secret Hossa's skin condition was kept? And that was with being in the public eye of reporters, etc., and current and former teammates
- LAHawk

Yep, that was a bolt out of the blue. Much to the chagrin of Hawk haters everywhere.

+1 upding

It is also a violation of the HIPPA Act. Both illegal and unethical.
I pray Wiz does not get charged and prosecuted.
- 35Tony0

I'm pretty sure, not certain, but pretty sure Wiz doesn't have access to his medical records, nor is he a doctor (again, I don't think he is, and if he is, how scary is that.........)

I doubt he could be prosecuted for anything.

Hopefully Wiz can chime in and clarify what he said or meant to say. What I am saying is that I will give him the benefit of the doubt and allow him his opportunity to set the record straight. Regardless true or not the entire scenario of this situation is disturbing I'm hoping the best for Toews and God willing he is able to get back to the team and play the game he loves.
- BGKarras

Plus that does not align with Bowman's statement of it being non-life threatening.

His post said; you heard it here first, and looks like Toews has a form of ALS. Made it sound like he knew. So, as written, he's either acting like a Richard to the board or he disclosed private information he shouldn't have. But.....Wiz often seems to type with his feet, so maybe he meant something totally different than what he typed.

Hopefully what he wrote is untrue. For Toews' sake.
- mohel

Wiz knows people. He hears things. THIS IS A FACT. HE GOES WAY WAY BACK. Whether he heard something that is completely true, I don't know. Did he hear part of the story. Is this like A Paul Harvey thing, "and now for the rest of the story."

I know Wiz and he would not subject himself to ridicule. If he is going to bother to say something, he means it.

Now whether it is right to disclose sensitive information, I just think sometimes some people get tired of the same old ring around the collar. Unsubstantiated. Maybe Wiz cannot say NOW or maybe LATER he can. I do foresee after The Expansion Draft the annual re-tooling that hockey teams engage in - including The Entry Draft and all summer long free agency - at some point the Seabrook and Toews health update becomes known. They are public figures and we can be sensitive to their wishes and their privacy. But sooner or later it comes out in the wash. We are not going to be held in the dark forever

Consider: Bowman has salary cap issues next season. Likely Shaw is long term and presently we are grasping and guessing about the Seabrook and and Toews situation

After game one next season (however it works I am not certain) Shaw goes on long term Injury. I suspect that Seabrook aND Toews may both not be ready because they have lingering health issues. But alas I am guessing

Look so Wiz opened up. That is his prerogative. But instead of judging him, just go with the information. Believe it or not. Calling him out serves no purpose. Except maybe if you have thin skin. So what. Move on. Maybe more believe he shouldn't have divulged anything. But let's not keep the narrative about whether he did right or wrong. Unless you especially like to tweet repeatedly about the same point like a famous tweeter whom recently was put in his place

Let's talk instead about the repercussion. I for one think Toews may never be the same center he once was. My hope is that if he plays again and if we are in a playoff tilt, there may be some of the old flash that he is able to produce for a few plays, a period, a game, a series. That would be a fitting tribute to the Captain.

All I wish Toews is good health. Whether he plays another game for the Hawks or not is secondary.