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NC Flyers Fan
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Joined: 07.19.2018

Mar 3 @ 2:21 PM ET
Exactly. Haven't heard of any teammates saying he is a bad guy. Many more saying he is fine; like Marc Staal.
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I guess I just have trouble understanding how they could let the guy play 167 games for them if he is that bad, and none of the stories add up to this extreme exile.

For what it’s worth...

https://nypost.com/2021/0...-bares-soul-in-interview/

Also I’m sympathetic to temper problems in the 25 and under crowd.

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Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.21.2020

Mar 3 @ 2:25 PM ET
I guess I just have trouble understanding how they could let the guy play 167 games for them if he is that bad, and none of the stories add up to this extreme exile.

For what it’s worth...

https://nypost.com/2021/0...-bares-soul-in-interview/

Also I’m sympathetic to temper problems in the 25 and under crowd.

- NC Flyers Fan

He isn't no angel; his political beliefs are his biggest issue imo.

DrMidnite
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: False-Positive, Texas
Joined: 12.10.2010

Mar 3 @ 2:26 PM ET
I guess I just have trouble understanding how they could let the guy play 167 games for them if he is that bad, and none of the stories add up to this extreme exile.

For what it’s worth...

https://nypost.com/2021/0...-bares-soul-in-interview/

Also I’m sympathetic to temper problems in the 25 and under crowd.

- NC Flyers Fan


I am not. This dude will never get 'it'. He has had multiple interpersonal problems throughout his entire career.

He can go start a league with that loser the Coyotes sent packing for making the MR kid eat that urine candy.
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Mar 3 @ 2:33 PM ET
I am not. This dude will never get 'it'. He has had multiple interpersonal problems throughout his entire career.

He can go start a league with that loser the Coyotes sent packing for making the MR kid eat that urine candy.

- DrMidnite


I would not classify the mental issue that the Coyotes draft pick has as the same issue in DeAngelo in any way.

Bendecko
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Joined: 02.29.2020

Mar 3 @ 2:35 PM ET
FREEBIRD !!!!
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DrMidnite
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: False-Positive, Texas
Joined: 12.10.2010

Mar 3 @ 2:37 PM ET
I would not classify the mental issue that the Coyotes draft pick has as the same issue in DeAngelo in any way.


- NC Flyers Fan


Hiding the puck from KAndre Miller's first goal was just a coincidence? He probably has a personality disorder too.

They both seem to have singled out black folks for their ire.

And this is where the usual "it's not who I am" is said.

You know what? It's exactly who they are and why they did it in the first place.
landros 2
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Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Mar 3 @ 2:41 PM ET
I don't know which was worse, watching the Flyers get stomped 5-2 or listening to Pierre Macguire talk all game long???
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At least they didn’t have Crosby in the lineup...it’s actually creepy to here McGuire fawn over Sidney.
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Joined: 08.21.2020

Mar 3 @ 2:44 PM ET
Hiding the puck from KAndre Miller's first goal was just a coincidence? He probably has a personality disorder too.

They both seem to have singled out black folks for their ire.

And this is where the usual "it's not who I am" is said.

You know what? It's exactly who they are and why they did it in the first place.

- DrMidnite

didnt happen
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Mar 3 @ 2:44 PM ET
I would not classify the mental issue that the Coyotes draft pick has as the same issue in DeAngelo in any way.


- NC Flyers Fan


Both are probably suffering from a variety of (severe) personality issues.

Bulling classmates and transgressing against teammates really isn't that far apart.

And BTW, both passed through the Coyotes organization. Man, does that team do an exceptionally poopty job of screening for character.
Ftown19125
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 09.17.2013

Mar 3 @ 2:46 PM ET
He isn't no angel; his political beliefs are his biggest issue imo.
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for someone that breaks balls about using "patty" as a nickname, you use double negatives. hilarious. he ain't no angel!
DrMidnite
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: False-Positive, Texas
Joined: 12.10.2010

Mar 3 @ 2:50 PM ET
didnt happen
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Alright, I just saw it in the Post article is why I brought it up.
Sublime55
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.24.2012

Mar 3 @ 2:53 PM ET
for someone that breaks balls about using "patty" as a nickname, you use double negatives. hilarious. he ain't no angel!
- Ftown19125



He apparently comes from the 85 Bears School of Grammar.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Mar 3 @ 2:54 PM ET
I guess I just have trouble understanding how they could let the guy play 167 games for them if he is that bad, and none of the stories add up to this extreme exile.

For what it’s worth...

https://nypost.com/2021/0...-bares-soul-in-interview/

Also I’m sympathetic to temper problems in the 25 and under crowd.

- NC Flyers Fan


Thanks for posting this. Hadn’t seen it and good on brooks for digging to present both sides. He could have gone along with the popular narrative.

It’s a very dangerous time with sm and people especially in the states being so divided. All you have to do to fry someone is accuse them of being a fanatic or racist. If this is all true, then I hope that he gets another chance after maybe therapy regarding his temper.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Mar 3 @ 2:56 PM ET
Hiding the puck from KAndre Miller's first goal was just a coincidence? He probably has a personality disorder too.

They both seem to have singled out black folks for their ire.

And this is where the usual "it's not who I am" is said.

You know what? It's exactly who they are and why they did it in the first place.

- DrMidnite


Man. I must have misread the article but I read that Miller’s agent said that none of that happened. I’m all for holding people accountable but flying off the handle for accusations has to be avoided.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Mar 3 @ 2:58 PM ET


He apparently comes from the 85 Bears School of Grammar.

- Sublime55


Hey! I’m a bears fan! Be nice. 😃
Sublime55
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.24.2012

Mar 3 @ 3:00 PM ET
Hey! I’m a bears fan! Be nice. 😃
- Hextall271


Their Super Bowl Song was legendary...and that defense 😁
DrMidnite
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: False-Positive, Texas
Joined: 12.10.2010

Mar 3 @ 3:02 PM ET
Man. I must have misread the article but I read that Miller’s agent said that none of that happened. I’m all for holding people accountable but flying off the handle for accusations has to be avoided.
- Hextall271


I am dubious as I have seen victims try to diffuse situations by dismissing it.

Even if it didn't happen, all this article does is campaign for his job back with testamonials from biased friends of his.

He got suspended in Sarnia for stuff that really happened and he got fired from the Rangers for stuff that really happened, NOT his reputation.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Mar 3 @ 3:04 PM ET
Their Super Bowl Song was legendary...and that defense 😁
- Sublime55


Yeah. I have a lot of friends who love the patriots and I remind them of that super bowl.

TBH I still don’t trust Hayes because he’s a pats fan. Haha
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Mar 3 @ 3:05 PM ET
your question ? Of course the Isles are playing better now. Point is, if the Flyers are in the top 10 in the league then it is logical to say they are performing better than 21 other teams. It would surprise no one who watched the other team that those teams were giving the puck away more, losing coverage more and other struggles???
- wcorvette

The Flyers are in the top 10 right now, but if they continue to play like this they will be one of those other 21 teams. Leaving the Covid games aside, because its not fair to judge any team that has so many players missing, we both know the Flyers have not played like a top team in this league or even in the division this year. The have been extremely lucky in my opinion to even be where they are. I am still waiting for this team to play a consistent 60 minutes of good hockey. Now, last night was the first time the Flyers had their complete roster intact since opening night, so part of me is holding out hope with all their players available they can figure it out, but I have many doubts.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Mar 3 @ 3:08 PM ET
I am dubious as I have seen victims try to diffuse situations by dismissing it.

Even if it didn't happen, all this article does is campaign for his job back with testamonials from biased friends of his.

He got suspended in Sarnia for stuff that really happened and he got fired from the Rangers for stuff that really happened, NOT his reputation.

- DrMidnite


You don't get an ultimatum from your boss based on an isolated incident. He was warned repeatedly, given a last chance, and still went after Georgiev. Kid can't help himself.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Mar 3 @ 3:12 PM ET
I am dubious as I have seen victims try to diffuse situations by dismissing it.

Even if it didn't happen, all this article does is campaign for his job back with testamonials from biased friends of his.

He got suspended in Sarnia for stuff that really happened and he got fired from the Rangers for stuff that really happened, NOT his reputation.

- DrMidnite


I don’t pretend that I know all the truth on this guy. His rep has probably screwed him. There’s a tendency now though to judge before all the info comes out.

Crazy story. Not a comparable to this situation but a doc in eastern Canada here was accused of possessing child porn. Poor guy was arrested, Detained charged and license revoked all before they were able to determine that he had the same name as someone in ohio who was the real culprit. It was a mixup But a lot of people had judged him, and his name is still Connected To this on the internet. It’s terrible. Again not a comparable just thought it’s a terrible example of how authorities didn’t dig any further before acting.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Mar 3 @ 3:14 PM ET
You don't get an ultimatum from your boss based on an isolated incident. He was warned repeatedly, given a last chance, and still went after Georgiev. Kid can't help himself.
- Tomahawk


But it would be good to know if he’s got a temper that he needs therapy for or if he’s racist as those were the reports or rumours I had heard also. I agree with brooks that one he may be helped for and the other is next level bad.
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Mar 3 @ 3:17 PM ET
Both are probably suffering from a variety of (severe) personality issues.

Bulling classmates and transgressing against teammates really isn't that far apart.

And BTW, both passed through the Coyotes organization. Man, does that team do an exceptionally poopty job of screening for character.

- Tomahawk


I did notice that.
Peter Richards
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Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Mar 3 @ 3:17 PM ET
I don’t pretend that I know all the truth on this guy. His rep has probably screwed him. There’s a tendency now though to judge before all the info comes out.

Crazy story. Not a comparable to this situation but a doc in eastern Canada here was accused of possessing child porn. Poor guy was arrested, Detained charged and license revoked all before they were able to determine that he had the same name as someone in ohio who was the real culprit. It was a mixup But a lot of people had judged him, and his name is still Connected To this on the internet. It’s terrible. Again not a comparable just thought it’s a terrible example of how authorities didn’t dig any further before acting.

- Hextall271


Agree about if judging before knowing the facts. But the facts that I know is an organization severed all ties. Won’t even let him play in the ahl. Those are the facts I know. And it seems to regard his character/person.
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Mar 3 @ 3:28 PM ET
But it would be good to know if he’s got a temper that he needs therapy for or if he’s racist as those were the reports or rumours I had heard also. I agree with brooks that one he may be helped for and the other is next level bad.
- Hextall271


Yep. If all this is coming from poor decision making in regards to personal political beliefs and a temper problem then let’s call it what it is and get him help. If there is truly more to this, no reputable evidence has been brought into light and I don’t think he should be exiled if it is just social media folks attacking him because they do that.

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