Yes, and to be fair, I don't remember if he was speculating, reporting what he was hearing, or just guessing.

I only brought it up as if true, would it effect the how the team looks at Kane vs. Toews?
- vabeachbear

Okay thanks for the info.

Another Stan fail, not one Hawk in the top 30 "trade bait" list

https://www.tsn.ca/trade-...d-of-the-season-1.1600970
- LAHawk

Most of those guys have been a huge collection of poop this season. Eric Staal looks done. Hall has done nothing. Glendening is good on FOs and nothing else.

The only thing most of them have going is they are pending UFAs.

None of them are difference makers, IMO.

Most of those guys have been a huge collection of poop this season. Eric Staal looks done. Hall has done nothing. Glendening is good on FOs and nothing else.

The only thing most of them have going is they are pending UFAs.

None of them are difference makers, IMO.
- Elbows15

Kind of amazed that Hall and Eichel have combined for 3 goals this year. And apparently Eichel was recently sat. Friggin disaster.

Kind of amazed that Hall and Eichel have combined for 3 goals this year. And apparently Eichel was recently sat. Friggin disaster.
- Chunk

There’s been speculation in the media that Eichel will ask for a trade out of Buffalo. I suspect McDavid will be another guy wanting to get moved.

That is not actually the case. Toews and Seabrook having NMC/NTC's would need to be protected, unless they waived their no trade clauses. Those that have missed 60 consecutive games or have what is considered career threatening injuries may not be used to satisfy a team's player exposure requirements. You can't exploit the IR to try and maximize the number of players exposed.
- TheTrob

If Toews and Seabrook do not play this year, aren’t there injuries (especially Seabrook who hasn’t played in about a year) considered career threatening?

There’s been speculation in the media that Eichel will ask for a trade out of Buffalo. I suspect McDavid will be another guy wanting to get moved.
- paulr

It will be interesting to see with McDavid. Edmonton has been playing better for the past couple years, but if they don't have any success in the PO's that may speed things up.

There’s been speculation in the media that Eichel will ask for a trade out of Buffalo. I suspect McDavid will be another guy wanting to get moved.
- paulr

Maybe McDavid should have taken $9-10 million per year instead of $13+ million and then his team might be able to afford some higher quality defensemen. Screw him if he wants to handcuff his team and then get bailed out.

There’s been speculation in the media that Eichel will ask for a trade out of Buffalo. I suspect McDavid will be another guy wanting to get moved.
- paulr

Wow, that Buffalo roster is a mess. Eichel, Skinner, and Okposo, how do those contracts get moved now?

Wow, that Buffalo roster is a mess. Eichel, Skinner, and Okposo, how do those contracts get moved now?
- 333inthe3rd

Hire Bowman as GM

Wow, that Buffalo roster is a mess. Eichel, Skinner, and Okposo, how do those contracts get moved now?
- 333inthe3rd

Hire Bowman as GM

If Toews and Seabrook do not play this year, aren’t there injuries (especially Seabrook who hasn’t played in about a year) considered career threatening?
- LAHawk

Yes, they would, but the rule is there to prevent teams from circumventing the number of players who must be exposed by using IR. The rules state that you must expose at least 2 forwards, one defenseman and one goalie who meet the requirements for games played, under contract, etc. Teams can not use players with potential career-ending injuries who have missed more than the previous 60 consecutive games to meet the above requirements without league approval. Exposing a player that you know will not be chosen because he is injured would in effect allow you to protect a player you otherwise would not be able to. So if you take a Seabrook or Toews, who rules say you must protect because they have NMC's, they would first have to waive the NMC and then the league would have to approve. My guess is if they did, there would be some type of severe penalty should one of those players miraculously recover and play next year.

Being on IR does not preclude a player from being chosen in the expansion draft. As an example, player X gets hurt before this season began and had to miss the whole year, but will be recovered for next season. Because he hasn't played in the last 60 games does not exempt him from being picked, it exempts the team from counting him towards the number of eligible players they must expose. If they don't want to lose him they must protect him, regardless of the IR time.

Maybe McDavid should have taken $9-10 million per year instead of $13+ million and then his team might be able to afford some higher quality defensemen. Screw him if he wants to handcuff his team and then get bailed out.
- tazer_and_diet

Maybe the owners should realize that they need their stars to have deep playoff runs - maybe they should loosen the hard-cap enough so that the McDavids, Mathews, Eichels - yes, Kanes and Toews - can play on teams that can afford higher quality players and make the tournament and win a round or two?

Players aren’t the only “greedy” actors in this dramedy.

Would you trade Strome for Gagner? Too much? Too little?

I am just suggesting for the rest of the year if they want to try to make a run at a playoff spot. He is 31 and has an $850,000 cap hit. UFA after the year. We really do not have anyone on the Taxi Squad or the Rock that screams I should be in the NHL. So he would not be blocking anyone.

Strome will be 24 in a week. $3mil cap hit for another year. On concussion protocol. Does not really project as a top 2 center. Really not a great fit with the Hawks as currently constructed, other than insurance at the center position.
- -Doh-

Since strome is struggling maybe see if you trade him to team that has struggling player also change of scenery . for example strome to Boston for debrusk contracts are similar.

Since strome is struggling maybe see if you trade him to team that has struggling player also change of scenery . for example strome to Boston for debrusk contracts are similar.
- Scott1977

Why would Chicago want Debrusk?

Why would Chicago want Debrusk?
- paulr

Just using debrusk as an example for trade struggling player for struggling player. And change of teams might help both players or not.

Why would Chicago want Debrusk?
- paulr

Why would Boston want Strome?

Maybe the owners should realize that they need their stars to have deep playoff runs - maybe they should loosen the hard-cap enough so that the McDavids, Mathews, Eichels - yes, Kanes and Toews - can play on teams that can afford higher quality players and make the tournament and win a round or two?

Players aren’t the only “greedy” actors in this dramedy.
- StLBravesFan

I don't think it is greed. McDavid is pretty much the best player (or at least the most marketable) in the league. He produces and has name recognition. Him trying to get as much money as possible, and someone giving it to him is not in any way a problem. McDavid has not said he wants out and from what I've read is a very good teammate.

The owners run their teams the way they see fit. Some have a self imposed cap and accept the results that come with that, and others spend to the cap (or over it with the help of some gymnastics). The cap (and floor) is in place so that the league is not completely imbalanced, but there are always going to be extremes.

Especially now, there will be limited funds for the next few years, so it's not going to matter much and they will have to make do as best they can.

Why would Boston want Strome?
- 6628

I understand a change of scenery may help Strome get better?

Maybe McDavid should have taken $9-10 million per year instead of $13+ million and then his team might be able to afford some higher quality defensemen. Screw him if he wants to handcuff his team and then get bailed out.
- tazer_and_diet

B.S. If he had forced the issue during negotiations, McDavid could have taken 20% of the cap - around $16M per. And the Oilers would have paid it because he is far and away the best and most exciting player in the game. And maybe it would have saved them from signing stiffs like Lucic, Koskinen and Kris Russell to bloated deals.

B.S. If he had forced the issue during negotiations, McDavid could have taken 20% of the cap - around $16M per. And the Oilers would have paid it because he is far and away the best and most exciting player in the game. And maybe it would have saved them from signing stiffs like Lucic, Koskinen and Kris Russell to bloated deals.
- RickJ

Ummm Rick there’s a whole bunch of folks east of you and west of me who believe Matthews is that guy.

Kind of amazed that Hall and Eichel have combined for 3 goals this year. And apparently Eichel was recently sat. Friggin disaster.
- Chunk

Eichel was out due to injury. Skinner was sat for 3 games.

Someone new and good. Very promising. Fast and skilled

Someone sort of old. A has been but not toast yet. Slow side and yeah skilled enough

Anisinov scored his fist goal this season and Stutzle had the assist.

Maybe McDavid should have taken $9-10 million per year instead of $13+ million and then his team might be able to afford some higher quality defensemen. Screw him if he wants to handcuff his team and then get bailed out.
- tazer_and_diet

Didn't he since he has to give back 15% of his salary? If you are a small market team and you can't draft then that's too (frank)ing bad. How many number 1 picks did they have? Oilers would be better off letting the players decide on who the team drafts than the FO.

Eichel was out due to injury. Skinner was sat for 3 games.
- Elbows15

Speaking of a franchise that is brutal.

That's why i never could understand why Bowman gets so little credit, on how he was handcuffed with the new contracts, trading away half the (frank)ing team and building around those star players again. If we had a gm that didn't know what he was doing, no way we sniff 2 more Cups.

Speaking of a franchise that is brutal.

That's why i never could understand why Bowman gets so little credit, on how he was handcuffed with the new contracts, trading away half the (frank)ing team and building around those star players again. If we had a gm that didn't know what he was doing, no way we sniff 2 more Cups.
- BetweenTheDots

Their owners can't get out of their own way.