what about next season?

at the moment they have 69 mil commited
if they traded for a player who makes 6 mil next year, they would have 75 commited.

the would just have to make the cap work...same as every year if you want to make moves
- senstroll

Didn’t TB trade for Mcdonaugh at the TDL? Then traded Miller away 3 months later?

That’s what happens, you add at the deadline and figure the rest out once your playoff run is over.

The leafs already have enough shiny things. 😆

To many contending teams (frank) it up by trying to finagle a high end player who changes the composition of the team into their lineup.
- joel878

I say go rental unless there’s somebody they just can’t say no to. I think Preds can get better than we’re willing (or should be willing to give).

I think adding a guy with term would be fantastic.

Do we need to remind everyone on here how Dubas acquired Muzzin?
- Santo_44

And Campbell

I think adding a guy with term would be fantastic.

Do we need to remind everyone on here how Dubas acquired Muzzin?
- Santo_44

I don't like it if you have to subtract from somewhere else to make it work.

Muzzin was a pressing desperate need. Forsberg isn't, he'd be a bonus.

Sorry but I'm gonna put a hard no on moving a defenceman out.

I've spent way to much of my life watching the leafs blueline as a complete disaster to start hacking away at it now that it looks like they may finally have something.

Noooope.
- joel878

I have a hard time saying I am not going to do something 6 months from now....6 months later might tell a different story.

Liljergen or Sandin could come in and show they are ready for top 4. He’ll Dermott could even do that(less likely)

My point is things change and moving out a D man is an option down the road. We’ll see how the players preform.

just some rough calc..a bit of a guess, but it works something like this

also the 56 game season comes into play..but ill just assume its the same pay as 82

a player making 6 mil
thats 107k per game

if a team trades for a player and there is say 20 games left, they are on the hook for 107k x 20

so 2.1mil of the deal.

so a team would need to accumulate 2.1 mil to add that 6 mil player with 20 games left.

*none of these are actual numbers..just rough guesses

And Campbell
- Steven_Seagull

Yeah it’s crazy.

The fan favourites are players acquired the same way a Forsberg would be

But we aren’t entertaining it because they might have to trade someone that they have been hating on the past 3 years?

Didn’t TB trade for Mcdonaugh at the TDL? Then traded Miller away 3 months later?

That’s what happens, you add at the deadline and figure the rest out once your playoff run is over.
- Santo_44

or trade for a player who is a UFA, then no worries about next season.

but Dubas like to have term...no rentals. which makes sense if you are giving up value, you want more value back

I say go rental unless there’s somebody they just can’t say no to. I think Preds can get better than we’re willing (or should be willing to give).
- Canada Cup

The team is positioned for a rental structure wise, not a player with term. I wouldnt say no to a player with term if it fit right... But having to send multiple players out to balance the cap isn't fitting right. That changes the nucleus of your team.

You don't fix a problem that doesn't exist by creating multiple other problems.

A guy like Rakell may be a happy medium. Not as expensive to acquire and an extra year at a manageable number. If something like that can't be found I'm happy to go the Granlund route before putting everything in a blender. 🤷🏻‍♂️

I don't like it if you have to subtract from somewhere else to make it work.

Muzzin was a pressing desperate need. Forsberg isn't, he'd be a bonus.
- joel878

They wouldn’t need to subtract this season. At all.

This offseason they may have to...or they could trade Forsberg and recoup picks and prospects and take him as a rental.

The team is positioned for a rental structure wise, not a player with term. I wouldnt say no to a player with term if it fit right... But having to send multiple players out to balance the cap isn't fitting right. That changes the nucleus of your team.

You don't fix a problem that doesn't exist by creating multiple other problems.

A guy like Rakell may be a happy medium. Not as expensive to acquire and an extra year at a manageable number. If something like that can't be found I'm happy to go the Granlund route before putting everything in a blender. 🤷🏻‍♂️
- joel878

Why can’t they trade Forsberg at the draft if they wanted to?

This is just giving us more poker chips. It’s a better mindset than getting a rental. Of course unless it’s a guy that only costs us a 4th round pick then whatever.

Why can’t they trade Forsberg at the draft if they wanted to?

This is just giving us more poker chips. It’s a better mindset than getting a rental. Of course unless it’s a guy that only costs us a 4th round pick then whatever.
- Santo_44

In theory they could but I'm betting there's a reason you don't see a ton of moves like that. As in, you don't generally see players with term acquired at the TDL and then dumped at the draft.

Plus, what's your return gonna be when every team in the league knows you've backed yourself into a complete corner against the cap.

In theory they could but I'm betting there's a reason you don't see a ton of moves like that. As in, you don't generally see players with term acquired at the TDL and then dumped at the draft.

Plus, what's your return gonna be when every team in the league knows you've backed yourself into a complete corner against the cap.
- joel878

Put Nylander on LTIR for the season and take him off before the playoffs.

So Jake Muzzin is having a hell of a season so far eh

So Jake Muzzin is having a hell of a season so far eh
- TheMussel

He should win the Norris.

In theory they could but I'm betting there's a reason you don't see a ton of moves like that. As in, you don't generally see players with term acquired at the TDL and then dumped at the draft.

Plus, what's your return gonna be when every team in the league knows you've backed yourself into a complete corner against the cap.
- joel878

“To many contending teams (frank) it up by trying to finagle a high end player who changes the composition of the team into their lineup.”

It doesn’t seem like you care about what moves other teams frequently make, in fact above you stated too many teams (frank) up making the same moves over and over again.

And they wouldn’t be forced to trade Forsberg. Like I said they would have options. In the event they did want to trade Forsberg a bidding war for a 4M 1st line forward would be pretty decent. Not 4M 1st line forward with 1.5 years left but pretty decent.

Like I said if this trade were to happen there would be options in the offseason. Dubas traded away Kap and AJ for cap reasons and its working out great....I trust Dubas with working around the cap.

He should win the Norris.
- Steven_Seagull

Holl should win the Norris...

To many people talking about Forsberg, not enough people talking about Granlund.

He would light it up with Tavares and Willie, far cheaper to acquire at a far more manageable number. No commitment beyond this year and don't have to hit the team with a rocket strike to land him. 🤷🏻‍♂️
- joel878

Vesey and a 3rd rnd pick.

Vesey and a 3rd rnd pick.
- dmnted

Have to think Nashville wouldn't want Vesey..

just some rough calc..a bit of a guess, but it works something like this

also the 56 game season comes into play..but ill just assume its the same pay as 82

a player making 6 mil
thats 107k per game

if a team trades for a player and there is say 20 games left, they are on the hook for 107k x 20

so 2.1mil of the deal.

so a team would need to accumulate 2.1 mil to add that 6 mil player with 20 games left.

*none of these are actual numbers..just rough guesses
- senstroll

Yup. Can't imagine how this could be calculated in any other way - except it's the NHL, so who knows...

Put Nylander on LTIR for the season and take him off before the playoffs.
- Steven_Seagull

His hair is broken?

Have to think Nashville wouldn't want Vesey..
- PatC80

Vesey and a 3rd is probably the cost to get rid of Vesey.

His hair is broken?
- 21peter

Split ends

Vesey and a 3rd is probably the cost to get rid of Vesey.
- 21peter

but, but, but he has an amazing cap hit

Have to think Nashville wouldn't want Vesey..
- PatC80

One suggestion was a 2nd & a 3rd.