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Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: This world is just a veil and the face you wear is not your own., ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Feb 23 @ 3:03 PM ET
Oh... And Tiger Woods 🤦‍♂️
- .HOHO.


Not expected to live?
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Feb 23 @ 3:04 PM ET
Not expected to live?
- Canada Cup

I hope he's ok..
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: This world is just a veil and the face you wear is not your own., ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Feb 23 @ 3:06 PM ET
I hope he's ok..
- PatC80


My wife was watching news and she said not likely. (She might have been projecting)
Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Whenever, wherever, ON
Joined: 06.27.2013

Feb 23 @ 3:10 PM ET
A good list to choose from, I wonder how tight Andersen and Matthews are and if that will come into play.
- Garnie


Obviously they're pretty close - but hockey is a business. If Andersen would do less than $5m (which I doubt), then I think he could stay. Looking at that list . . .I don't know. I love Pekka Rinne 4 years ago. Even if St. Louis lets Binnington go, it's because he wants far more than $5m. I think Boston resigns Rask, but even then he'll be more than we'd want to spend.

If Campbell comes back from injury and plays well for the remainder of the year, then the idea of a platoon with him isn't out of the question, but I'm not sure we're ultimately improving our goaltending situation if we had a Campbell / Grubauer platoon, for example (and realistically, Grubauer probably cashes in a bit here and stays with the Avs, especially if he plays more than 40 games and keeps his save percentage over .925).
shack67
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: NS
Joined: 07.05.2015

Feb 23 @ 3:11 PM ET
I hope he's ok..
- PatC80

In surgery with multiple leg injuries.
bryant
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.28.2011

Feb 23 @ 3:11 PM ET
My wife was watching news and she said not likely. (She might have been projecting)
- Canada Cup

Sounds like leg injuries. In surgery now. LA fire department listed him as moderate to critical.
Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Whenever, wherever, ON
Joined: 06.27.2013

Feb 23 @ 3:12 PM ET
Sounds like leg injuries. In surgery now. LA fire department listed him as moderate to critical.
- bryant


Isn't that a pretty wide range?
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: This world is just a veil and the face you wear is not your own., ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Feb 23 @ 3:14 PM ET
Obviously they're pretty close - but hockey is a business. If Andersen would do less than $5m (which I doubt), then I think he could stay. Looking at that list . . .I don't know. I love Pekka Rinne 4 years ago. Even if St. Louis lets Binnington go, it's because he wants far more than $5m. I think Boston resigns Rask, but even then he'll be more than we'd want to spend.

If Campbell comes back from injury and plays well for the remainder of the year, then the idea of a platoon with him isn't out of the question, but I'm not sure we're ultimately improving our goaltending situation if we had a Campbell / Grubauer platoon, for example (and realistically, Grubauer probably cashes in a bit here and stays with the Avs, especially if he plays more than 40 games and keeps his save percentage over .925).

- Monkeypunk


The only reasonable option seems to be one of the Coyotes. I can’t see anyone else we would want being available
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Feb 23 @ 3:14 PM ET
Obviously they're pretty close - but hockey is a business. If Andersen would do less than $5m (which I doubt), then I think he could stay. Looking at that list . . .I don't know. I love Pekka Rinne 4 years ago. Even if St. Louis lets Binnington go, it's because he wants far more than $5m. I think Boston resigns Rask, but even then he'll be more than we'd want to spend.

If Campbell comes back from injury and plays well for the remainder of the year, then the idea of a platoon with him isn't out of the question, but I'm not sure we're ultimately improving our goaltending situation if we had a Campbell / Grubauer platoon, for example (and realistically, Grubauer probably cashes in a bit here and stays with the Avs, especially if he plays more than 40 games and keeps his save percentage over .925).

- Monkeypunk


If we don't re-sign Andersen, (I think we don't, if we have another short playoff run) then I would target Grubauer if he became available
dmnted
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Space for Rent
Joined: 08.30.2006

Feb 23 @ 3:16 PM ET
Oh... And Tiger Woods 🤦‍♂️
- .HOHO.

I wonder if he was impaired at 7am which cause his single car accident.
Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Retired, ON
Joined: 07.24.2011

Feb 23 @ 3:17 PM ET
I wonder if he was impaired at 7am which cause his single car accident.
- dmnted

Maybe a squirrel ran out in front of his vehicle and he swerved to avoid it.



but i doubt it.
Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Whenever, wherever, ON
Joined: 06.27.2013

Feb 23 @ 3:19 PM ET
If we don't re-sign Andersen, (I think we don't, if we have another short playoff run) then I would target Grubauer if he became available
- PatC80


Out of the options, I'm similarly a fan of the guys who are just in their prime - Grubauer, Mrazek, Binnington, Ullmark - but they're not better than Andersen, with the possible exception of Grubauer (and here he has a pretty good team in front of him, too). I'll admit that I have liked Raanta, but he's awfully injury prone, and not having a good year.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Feb 23 @ 3:20 PM ET
My wife was watching news and she said not likely. (She might have been projecting)
- Canada Cup

Apparently he has multiple injuries to his legs and is currently in surgery, according to his agent:

https://twitter.com/Danie...tatus/1364300162110136321
Jackie Daytona
Joined: 10.09.2020

Feb 23 @ 3:23 PM ET
When I was told the Leafs has finally replaced Tavares at 2C, I presumed Leafs management finally acknowledged his decline. As his skating has become labored and slow it was obvious he could not keep up with his linemates. Such decline is to be expected with age, but I believe it came a year or two before Leafs management expected. However, I was shocked to discover instead of being demoted, he was shifted to the top line, foisted upon Marner and Matthews. Doing so did not help any of the Leafs, instead it provided advantage to Calgary.

The combination of Tavares' decline, his expensive contract and his NMC will make this contract problematic in short order. Perhaps the Leafs may find a way to transfer him (and his contract) to Robidas Island. Otherwise they will soon need to find a creative way to recover his cap hit for use on a competent 2C.
Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Retired, ON
Joined: 07.24.2011

Feb 23 @ 3:26 PM ET
When I was told the Leafs has finally replaced Tavares at 2C, I presumed Leafs management finally acknowledged his decline. As his skating has become labored and slow it was obvious he could not keep up with his linemates. Such decline is to be expected with age, but I believe it came a year or two before Leafs management expected. However, I was shocked to discover instead of being demoted, he was shifted to the top line, foisted upon Marner and Matthews. Doing so did not help any of the Leafs, instead it provided advantage to Calgary.

The combination of Tavares' decline, his expensive contract and his NMC will make this contract problematic in short order. Perhaps the Leafs may find a way to transfer him (and his contract) to Robidas Island. Otherwise they will soon need to find a creative way to recover his cap hit for use on a competent 2C.

- Jackie Daytona


mr.sir
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Vancouver Island, BC
Joined: 01.18.2015

Feb 23 @ 3:27 PM ET
Obviously they're pretty close - but hockey is a business. If Andersen would do less than $5m (which I doubt), then I think he could stay. Looking at that list . . .I don't know. I love Pekka Rinne 4 years ago. Even if St. Louis lets Binnington go, it's because he wants far more than $5m. I think Boston resigns Rask, but even then he'll be more than we'd want to spend.

If Campbell comes back from injury and plays well for the remainder of the year, then the idea of a platoon with him isn't out of the question, but I'm not sure we're ultimately improving our goaltending situation if we had a Campbell / Grubauer platoon, for example (and realistically, Grubauer probably cashes in a bit here and stays with the Avs, especially if he plays more than 40 games and keeps his save percentage over .925).

- Monkeypunk

Campbell/Korpisalo
or
Campbell/Merzlikins

Please and thanks 🙏
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Feb 23 @ 3:27 PM ET
When I was told the Leafs has finally replaced Tavares at 2C, I presumed Leafs management finally acknowledged his decline. As his skating has become labored and slow it was obvious he could not keep up with his linemates. Such decline is to be expected with age, but I believe it came a year or two before Leafs management expected. However, I was shocked to discover instead of being demoted, he was shifted to the top line, foisted upon Marner and Matthews. Doing so did not help any of the Leafs, instead it provided advantage to Calgary.

The combination of Tavares' decline, his expensive contract and his NMC will make this contract problematic in short order. Perhaps the Leafs may find a way to transfer him (and his contract) to Robidas Island. Otherwise they will soon need to find a creative way to recover his cap hit for use on a competent 2C.

- Jackie Daytona

We appreciate your concern for the guy who is currently mired in a slump, yet still sits 28th in the league in scoring.

It's great to see you back here in the Leafs thread. We haven't seen you all that much lately, but of course that has nothing to do with the fact that the Leafs have only lost 4 times in regulation.
Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Retired, ON
Joined: 07.24.2011

Feb 23 @ 3:29 PM ET
Campbell/Korpisalo
or
Campbell/Merzlikins

Please and thanks 🙏

- mr.sir


why those two goalies? what stands out about them?
TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

Feb 23 @ 3:32 PM ET
why those two goalies? what stands out about them?
- Arctic_AARDVARK


If they can play under Torts then they can handle the barrage of abuse from Toronto Media?
r8edr
Joined: 07.06.2012

Feb 23 @ 3:32 PM ET
Dude, the goal made it 1-0, with 54 minutes left in the game.

The Leafs are one of the highest scoring teams in the league.

If you're going to troll, at least put some effort into it.

Thanks

- Atomic Wedgie


Who is trolling? If you believe that team has the same faith in Huck as they have in Andersen, to recover after letting in a soft goal, then you’re delusional. I don't even think Andersen is that great of goalie, but he has shown he can recover from a weak goal many times. The team looked off the entire game, and I mentioned it earlier, sometimes teams just don't have it and things just don't go right. Matthews was whiffing on shots all night, and the PP just didn't seem right. Maybe it had nothing do to with Hutch in net, or maybe, just maybe they are gripping their sticks a little tight because they believe after the first goal, that they may have to score 5 goals to win with him in net.

Am I saying the lost was on him? No, the game was 100% winnable. The got shut out on night that they had 7 PP with one being a 3 on 5 for over a minute. Obviously the goalie isn't the reason they lost. But to say someone is trolling because they mention the team has more faith in Andersen then in Hutch is laughable.





mr.sir
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Vancouver Island, BC
Joined: 01.18.2015

Feb 23 @ 3:32 PM ET
why those two goalies? what stands out about them?
- Arctic_AARDVARK

Skill, youth, low cap hits
Anything from CBJ please

They play the game the right way
Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Retired, ON
Joined: 07.24.2011

Feb 23 @ 3:34 PM ET
If they can play under Torts then they can handle the barrage of abuse from Toronto Media?
- TheMussel

They're goalies.. I doubt they face the wrath of Torts for not playing his style. They have one job, stopping pucks. And they dont do that as well as Freddy.
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: This world is just a veil and the face you wear is not your own., ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Feb 23 @ 3:36 PM ET
Skill, youth, low cap hits
Anything from CBJ please

They play the game the right way

- mr.sir


One option is to trade the whole CBJ team here for you to cheer for. I can’t think of any other way for you to cheer for all those players?
mr.sir
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Vancouver Island, BC
Joined: 01.18.2015

Feb 23 @ 3:40 PM ET
One option is to trade the whole CBJ team here for you to cheer for. I can’t think of any other way for you to cheer for all those players?
- Canada Cup

Korpisalo
Merzlikins
Jones
Werenski
Savard
Gavrikov
Jenner
Foligno
Laine
Roslovic
Foudy
Texier
Bemstrom

Would be happy with any of theseđź‘Ť
shack67
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: NS
Joined: 07.05.2015

Feb 23 @ 3:44 PM ET
Who is trolling? If you believe that team has the same faith in Huck as they have in Andersen, to recover after letting in a soft goal, then you’re delusional. I don't even think Andersen is that great of goalie, but he has shown he can recover from a weak goal many times. The team looked off the entire game, and I mentioned it earlier, sometimes teams just don't have it and things just don't go right. Matthews was whiffing on shots all night, and the PP just didn't seem right. Maybe it had nothing do to with Hutch in net, or maybe, just maybe they are gripping their sticks a little tight because they believe after the first goal, that they may have to score 5 goals to win with him in net.

Am I saying the lost was on him? No, the game was 100% winnable. The got shut out on night that they had 7 PP with one being a 3 on 5 for over a minute. Obviously the goalie isn't the reason they lost. But to say someone is trolling because they mention the team has more faith in Andersen then in Hutch is laughable.

- r8edr

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