Not to be rude but, yes, the signs were definitely there. I remember those off sides goals and how very close he was, so many great chances. He just needed a little time.
- NC Flyers Fan

yes, OK, so that is why I stated I was on the fence, because I saw some glimpses but wanted to see more. I am happy in what I have seen so far from Farabee, and moving forward I want to see him generating more shots from key areas in the o-zone. I really don't understand why this is such a big deal. What is wrong with wanting to see a player for more games before you pass judgement on them? Its not like I have said he sucks or a bust, like I have with Patrick.

Right Wing was still too close to the ice... He has nothing to offer... All risk and no reward... Should def be exposed, but I think his softness, head problems, and lack of heart will keep Seattle away from him. Let him walk next year or sooner if he will.

As I've stated many times before, he played soft before his head problems, you think he's gonna give more after? He's just trying to milk this (for the pay) as long as he can, and most still think he will be a hockey player one day... Not me. open up the spot for a youngin'
- BadCowboyDan

You bring up a good point. What do the Flyers do after this season if Patrick continues to play as he has? This year Patrick signed a "prove it" deal and so far he has not proved anything. Do the Flyers give him another chance next year?

thank you!
- jd250

Both you and the other poster don't understand what Fletcher was saying there.

Kid had a solid first season after coming off a really good college season. His skill set was described by scouts and his play in college. His play last year you could see that skill set. The next test was the off-season and he added good weight and came ready this season. It is your definition of on or off the fence and your opinion, my opinion would be there were plenty of indications that he would step forward as he has.
- wcorvette

Right, and I never said he would not take a step forward. All I said was I was on the fence as to whether Farabee would be an elite player for this team. Who here thought after last season Farabee was going to be an elite player for the Flyers? If any of you answer yes you are lying! I thought there was certainly potential but I wanted to see more. And BTW, I still want to see more, but I like what I see so far.

yes, OK, so that is why I stated I was on the fence, because I saw some glimpses but wanted to see more. I am happy in what I have seen so far from Farabee, and moving forward I want to see him generating more shots from key areas in the o-zone. I really don't understand why this is such a big deal. What is wrong with wanting to see a player for more games before you pass judgement on them? Its not like I have said he sucks or a bust, like I have with Patrick.
- jd250

You stated that the Flyers young players are what they are. Many saw the potential in Farabee and could see that he was going to develop into a really good player. You didn't see it.

Right, and I never said he would not take a step forward. All I said was I was on the fence as to whether Farabee would be an elite player for this team. Who here thought after last season Farabee was going to be an elite player for the Flyers? If any of you answer yes you are lying! I thought there was certainly potential but I wanted to see more. And BTW, I still want to see more, but I like what I see so far.
- jd250

This is what you routinely do when called out and trying to spin your opinions. You add qualifiers in an attempt to change the context. Now you're adding elite as a qualifier.

But will any of the current players in the system take the flyers to contender? I think with an 82 schedule you might have seen a couple players dramatically improve. I don’t think we see that with this covid crap. Yeah Farabee but you’ll have others in the shortened, covid season seem to regress, maybe not enough season to recover and step forward. That’s leads us to the off-season where if I was a betting man the Flyers will make moves to go for it next season. So could Ekholm be step one? He can play the right side and I think he has the aptitude to be good on the right side. He brings the snarl this D could use, plus O instincts and skating and size. If that is one part the other is getting a player on the O that can put the puck in and game changer, like Panarin. Just writing this you can tell how difficult all that will be. Ekholm would be the easy part, he is a player and they have the assets, you could sacrifice a patty or lindblom in expansion, IF you had a plan to find that game changer upfront. In my opinion it’s all about next season. A GM has a shelf life, Fletcher knows this, he will go for it next season, giving him a 2-3 year window to win as a GM
- wcorvette

Well said! Ekholm is a step in the right direction and fills a need that currently you can't fill internally. But MJL doesn't care about any of this. He just likes to criticize everyone else without of course offering his own plan on how to improve this team. Of course that is because he doesn't have a plan, other than keeping his fingers crossed over his light saber hoping somehow Patrick learns how to score goals. In fact according to MJL we should to forget Patrick was drafted number 2 overall and just be happy he can play a 3C role. What a joke!

This is what you routinely do when called out and trying to spin your opinions. You add qualifiers in an attempt to change the context. Now you're adding elite as a qualifier.
- MJL

NO, I am not adding anything! This is what we were talking about when I made the statement, are any of the Flyers young players going to be elite players for this team, because I had stated in a previous post that the Flyers had no such players and you got on me for not allowing enough time for the players to grow. THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT! Not only are you critical of others, your senile too!

You stated that the Flyers young players are what they are. Many saw the potential in Farabee and could see that he was going to develop into a really good player. You didn't see it.
- MJL

I stated I was on the fence with Farabee ... so clearly I didn't think Farabee was who he was. Man, you are THICK!

Both you and the other poster don't understand what Fletcher was saying there.
- MJL

Yes, apparently only you understand GM speak.

Well said! Ekholm is a step in the right direction and fills a need that currently you can't fill internally. But MJL doesn't care about any of this. He just likes to criticize everyone else without of course offering his own plan on how to improve this team. Of course that is because he doesn't have a plan, other than keeping his fingers crossed over his light saber hoping somehow Patrick learns how to score goals. In fact according to MJL we should to forget Patrick was drafted number 2 overall and just be happy he can play a 3C role. What a joke!
- jd250

More nonsense. I've detailed why I question if obtaining Ekholm is the right move for the Flyers. As far as Patrick is concerned, yes at this point the fact that he was drafted 2nd overall is irrelevant. At this point it does not seem likely that he will reach his potential of when he was drafted. However that does not mean he can't be a valuable player for the Flyers. If he can improve offensively and play a good all around solid game and give the Flyers solid center depth, that is a very good thing for the Flyers. You bulld a team through the middle.

You're hung up me not giving names or having a specific plan. That's stupidity on your part. Nobody can really do that. All you've done is read a blog by Eklund and gave an opinion on it. I guess you think you came up with a plan.

The fact that you think it's a joke is just more evidence.

Yes, apparently only you understand GM speak.
- jd250

Nah, plenty of people understood what Fletcher was saying there. Apparently you didn't though.

NO, I am not adding anything! This is what we were talking about when I made the statement, are any of the Flyers young players going to be elite players for this team, because I had stated in a previous post that the Flyers had no such players and you got on me for not allowing enough time for the players to grow. THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT! Not only are you critical of others, your senile too!
- jd250

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What were talking about is seeing the potential of Farabee and knowing what kind of player he can be. Now you've added elite. You're ridiculously hung up on elite.

If I'm senile, what does that make you?

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What were talking about is seeing the potential of Farabee and knowing what kind of player he can be. Now you've added elite. You're ridiculously hung up on elite.

If I'm senile, what does that make you?


- MJL

huh ... I know I'm senile, at least I admit it

More nonsense. I've detailed why I question if obtaining Ekholm is the right move for the Flyers. As far as Patrick is concerned, yes at this point the fact that he was drafted 2nd overall is irrelevant. At this point it does not seem likely that he will reach his potential of when he was drafted. However that does not mean he can't be a valuable player for the Flyers. If he can improve offensively and play a good all around solid game and give the Flyers solid center depth, that is a very good thing for the Flyers. You bulld a team through the middle.

You're hung up me not giving names or having a specific plan. That's stupidity on your part. Nobody can really do that. All you've done is read a blog by Eklund and gave an opinion on it. I guess you think you came up with a plan.

The fact that you think it's a joke is just more evidence.
- MJL

Yes, yes .. I get it MJL. Everything I post is nonsense and everything you post is gospel!

Yes, yes .. I get it MJL. Everything I post is nonsense and everything you post is gospel!
- jd250

Your babbling

Your babbling
- MJL

And your not?? Can't we just build off each other's ideas instead of you always looking for Ah-Ha moments?

More nonsense. I've detailed why I question if obtaining Ekholm is the right move for the Flyers. As far as Patrick is concerned, yes at this point the fact that he was drafted 2nd overall is irrelevant. At this point it does not seem likely that he will reach his potential of when he was drafted. However that does not mean he can't be a valuable player for the Flyers. If he can improve offensively and play a good all around solid game and give the Flyers solid center depth, that is a very good thing for the Flyers. You bulld a team through the middle.

You're hung up me not giving names or having a specific plan. That's stupidity on your part. Nobody can really do that. All you've done is read a blog by Eklund and gave an opinion on it. I guess you think you came up with a plan.

The fact that you think it's a joke is just more evidence.
- MJL

Right now at this moment, the Flyers have 4 centers that are better than Patrick; namely Couturier, Hayes, Laughton and Bunnaman. That is a bad result for the Flyers.

And your not?? Can't we just build off each other's ideas instead of you always looking for Ah-Ha moments?
- jd250

No I'm not. Your posts have moved off of discussing the issue to discussing me. You're babbling.

yes, OK, so that is why I stated I was on the fence, because I saw some glimpses but wanted to see more. I am happy in what I have seen so far from Farabee, and moving forward I want to see him generating more shots from key areas in the o-zone. I really don't understand why this is such a big deal. What is wrong with wanting to see a player for more games before you pass judgement on them? Its not like I have said he sucks or a bust, like I have with Patrick.
- jd250

I’m not going to dig up your old post, but you can if you would like to reflect on it. I believe the fence comment was paired with the “they are what they are” stuff. It had a very negative vibe, was poorly thought out or worded even if it wasn’t really what you meant, and it made me .

Regarding Patrick, he is a good NHL player. I don’t personally place too much emphasis on where or whether a player was drafted when they were a kid. I look at where they are now, and what potential I see. We clearly have a different thought process. It happens.

I’m moving on now.

Right now at this moment, the Flyers have 4 centers that are better than Patrick; namely Couturier, Hayes, Laughton and Bunnaman. That is a bad result for the Flyers.
- jd250

Bunnaman is not better than Patrick. Laughton can play wing and I think he is better on the wing. Again, it's about what Patrick can add to the Flyers if he can improve his offensive output. Neither Bunnaman or Laughton have Patrick's raw skill level.