We need to put Strome with Dcat to drive up his trade value and then trade him. Dcat and Strome will put up points, they always have together.

Janmark Suter Kane or even Kubalik with Kane. I know they both play RW but Kubalik can go to the middle of the ice as well.

Dcat Strome Hagel or Kubalik
Kureshev Soda Kubalik or Havel
Carp Kampf Wallmark or whomever or 7 D

For the inevitable comments about the system when the Hawks slump:

"(The Hurricanes’) systems are very similar to how we want to defend," Ian Mitchell said after the Hawks’ 5-3 loss Friday. "We can take a lot from how they played us tonight."

Ian Mitchell on the Hurricanes: "They were just all over us. Pressure-wise, they play man-on-man all over the ice. Anytime you're looking for an outlet, there's a man right on him... Kinda showed they were definitely better than us tonight."

It's not the system, it's the execution.
- Chunk

How can we expect an on-ice product skating 7 rookies (including Boqvist, not including Lankinen) out of 18 to execute to the level necessary to beat a veteran, disciplined team like Carolina?

I’m not sure what these stats mean - I don’t know the definitions, I don’t know how subjective the stats are venue to venue - but the Hawks had 17 giveaways last nite, coupled with 13 Carolina takeaways - that’s 30 TOs, compared to 10+3=13 for the Hurricanes.

Must mean something.
- StLBravesFan

There is a difference. Schmaltz is usually close to the league leaders in takeaways. But it's because he absolutely never battles for a puck. He lets the other guy take it and from behind Schmaltz lifts the stick or just pulls the puck back off the guy's stick. He get's credit for a take. But if I was the king of the NHL I would have his bailing out on a potential puck battle ruled a giveaway, but that's not how it goes. A giveaway is scored when a player loses the puck to an opposing player and it's even more subjective. Dumping it out of danger is not a give, but an errant pass is. Back in the day it was called coughing the puck up. The hawks gave the puck away all night long last night.

There’s been so many times the last handful of games that I forget Strome is on the team.

That’s a good thing from a defensive side as I don’t notice any egregious errors there but there’s times I don’t hear his name called for a period and a half and the Hawks can’t have that. They don’t have much offensive firepower and he needs to be much more effective.
- Tyler Cameron

I think I heard this correctly about Strome's TOI in the 2nd Detroit game - 12 minutes total; 3 mins on the PP and 9 mins 5 on 5.

Colliton is or has been instructed to be very diplomatic in critiquing his play. There really is nothing there in the way of significant contribution except when his line spends a a bit of time in the O-zone.

Elbows claims he is useless except when he has the puck below the goal line. I am far more charitable saying he is OK inside the blueline of the O-zone.

Theo Fox: Game 19: Hawks 3, Canes 5
A recap of the Blackhawks first multi-goal loss in over a month falling to the Hurricanes 5-3 despite Kane dazzling with a spinorama goal and racking up 3 points.

Plus, a glance at IceHogs forwards who are running hot and cold.
- Theo Fox

We lose 1 game against a team who played like a very skilled veteran, patient, methodical team, everyone goes to their whipping boy, what a joke. Yea its all Stromes fault we lost last night, hahaha, i think he was a +1 last night WTF.

We made a game of it but what lost that game for us last night is guys losing their defensive assignments all night. Not playing as one unit unlike Carolina, such ugly (frank)ing uniforms, they were constantly in position to compete with anyone passing or receiving a puck.

This is why it's important to develop that blue line, Keith and Mitchell with very good games last night but the rest of them were (frank)ing scrambling most of the night. That 3rd goal was so (frank)ing lucky against us last night, it didn't help Z deflected a goal with his knee and was to slow on the PK to take away Nino's stick on that last PK.

Sucks to lose but they all have to play better as a team.

How many times on the PK the Hawks won the face off and couldn't clear the puck? 6 or 7 times? 2 PPGs against, (frank)ing Strome

What trade value in return do you think Strome really has? The scouting eyes around the NHL are very kean and they see everything and more of what we see. And it certainly won't be as a player who can help or be very good depth to a contender - like, say, an Antoine Vermette or Sammy Paulsson.

My guess on his value in trade - to a team that needs to get to the cap floor next season or to a team that might want to expose him in the expansion draft so they can protect another player on their roster that they might otherwise have to expose.
- RickJ

Probably not a lot of value, maybe another project in return unless we add.

I was critical of Shaw on PP1 the last couple of games they played, but man does that unit miss his puck retrieval skills. They have tried Soderberg and Carpenter in that spot with no real success. Tough to break up PP2 that unit still looks good. Maybe try Mitchell in the bumper/puck retrieval position on PP1?

Da Haan really has disappointed with his lack of composure with the puck. Hope Stan can get something at the TDL for him.

How can we expect an on-ice product skating 7 rookies (including Boqvist, not including Lankinen) out of 18 to execute to the level necessary to beat a veteran, disciplined team like Carolina?
- StLBravesFan

That’s my point. The fact is that they’ve done it before. They just aren’t consistent at it game to game (or even period to period) yet. The point of my post was to stress the obvious. It’s not the system.

We lose 1 game against a team who played like a very skilled veteran, patient, methodical team, everyone goes to their whipping boy, what a joke. Yea its all Stromes fault we lost last night, hahaha, i think he was a +1 last night WTF.

We made a game of it but what lost that game for us last night is guys losing their defensive assignments all night. Not playing as one unit unlike Carolina, such ugly (frank)ing uniforms, they were constantly in position to compete with anyone passing or receiving a puck.

This is why it's important to develop that blue line, Keith and Mitchell with very good games last night but the rest of them were (frank)ing scrambling most of the night. That 3rd goal was so (frank)ing lucky against us last night, it didn't help Z deflected a goal with his knee and was to slow on the PK to take away Nino's stick on that last PK.

Sucks to lose but they all have to play better as a team.
- BetweenTheDots

Ragging on Strome is not because they lost one game to a better team. It’s because he’s been invisible for about 2 weeks now. He’s said it, and his coach has as well. You are right, it’s not his fault that the Hawks couldn’t clear on the PK after winning the draws. It is a problem that he is the C on PP1 and I’m not sure he won a single draw in that situation last night. He’s getting beat to pucks and has been a detriment to possession for too long now.

At this point Suter and possibly even Kurashev are playing the center position better than Strome.

That’s my point. The fact is that they’ve done it before. They just aren’t consistent at it game to game (or even period to period) yet. The point of my post was to stress the obvious. It’s not the system.
- Chunk

They aren't catching anyone by surprise now this second time through even Detroit was much better luckily they still suck.

Credit goes to Darth on that one. Love his well placed zingers. I’m sure he’ll be in here at some point with his “what me?” schtick.
- HawkintheD

Ragging on Strome is not because they lost one game to a better team. It’s because he’s been invisible for about 2 weeks now. He’s said it, and his coach has as well. You are right, it’s not his fault that the Hawks couldn’t clear on the PK after winning the draws. It is a problem that he is the C on PP1 and I’m not sure he won a single draw in that situation last night. He’s getting beat to pucks and has been a detriment to possession for too long now.

At this point Suter and possibly even Kurashev are playing the center position better than Strome.
- Chunk

He must be doing something right since he's part of the Blackhawks winning record and going up against better centers than him. I guess he's not on the score sheet seems to be all that matters to most, or he's not faster than everyone or stronger than everyone. Winning is a team effort ask Torts

Ragging on Strome is not because they lost one game to a better team. It’s because he’s been invisible for about 2 weeks now. He’s said it, and his coach has as well. You are right, it’s not his fault that the Hawks couldn’t clear on the PK after winning the draws. It is a problem that he is the C on PP1 and I’m not sure he won a single draw in that situation last night. He’s getting beat to pucks and has been a detriment to possession for too long now.

At this point Suter and possibly even Kurashev are playing the center position better than Strome.
- Chunk

This...and thanks for saving me the keystrokes.

Was hopeful Strome could make a case for himself as a top 3C on this team, but Suter’s bumped him from the top line and I’d also rather see Kurashev or Soda centering the 2nd line.

This...and thanks for saving me the keystrokes.

Was hopeful Strome could make a case for himself as a top 3C on this team, but Suter’s bumped him from the top line and I’d also also rather see Kurashev or Soda centering the 2nd line.
- HawkintheD

While I believe Strome has the potential to be a solid top 9 forward he's not been realizing that potential this season. If he continues to play this was I would be surprised if he started next season on the Hawks roster, even if Toews is still out.

I agree that Suter and Kurashev have proven to be better forwards than Strome (yes, it's still early in the season and that could change).

While I believe Strome has the potential to be a solid top 9 forward he's not been realizing that potential this season. If he continues to play this was I would be surprised if he started next season on the Hawks roster, even if Toews is still out.

I agree that Suter and Kurashev have proven to be better forwards than Strome (yes, it's still early in the season and that could change).
- DarthKane

Suter’s been another great find by the Euro scouts and Scotty 😉

Been really impressed with Kurashev.

This...and thanks for saving me the keystrokes.

Was hopeful Strome could make a case for himself as a top 3C on this team, but Suter’s bumped him from the top line and I’d also rather see Kurashev or Soda centering the 2nd line.
- HawkintheD

If Strome doesn’t get on the scoresheet, then he’s worthless because he doesn’t bring any other attributes to the team. This has nothing to do with last nights game because I did not see the game, that’s just how it is, his only asset is putting up points, no points, no good.

He must be doing something right since he's part of the Blackhawks winning record and going up against better centers than him. I guess he's not on the score sheet seems to be all that matters to most, or he's not faster than everyone or stronger than everyone. Winning is a team effort ask Torts
- BetweenTheDots

Stick to the narrative even after the ship starts sinking.

This...and thanks for saving me the keystrokes.

Was hopeful Strome could make a case for himself as a top 3C on this team, but Suter’s bumped him from the top line and I’d also rather see Kurashev or Soda centering the 2nd line.
- HawkintheD

To my untrained eye and bourbon-infused brain, the Hawks are becoming a faster team. The contrast between his pace and the rest of the team seems even greater to me. His first few steps seem really slow.

Ya know who we haven't seen here lately? Savvy. Savvy is a good guy, but he was quite enthralled with Nick Leddy. To the point we assumed they were related. Dots has a similar attraction to Strome.

I know JC is a mastermind, but the 7 D lineup yields some bad pairings.

On the 1st CAR goal, Zadorov and deHaan were together. Both are minus skaters, not a good thing against a fast team like the ‘Canes. Zadorov & deHaan both turned the puck over on the play, and neither was quick enough to recover.

On the 2nd, somehow Boqvist & Beaudin were together, on a D zone start. The 2 rookies (yes, I know Boqvist isn’t technically a rookie) looked lost & overwhelmed.

How’s about playing 6, and keeping a vet with a rookie? Keith and Mitchell together seem to have things figured out, in both the O & D zones.

I think I heard this correctly about Strome's TOI in the 2nd Detroit game - 12 minutes total; 3 mins on the PP and 9 mins 5 on 5.

Colliton is or has been instructed to be very diplomatic in critiquing his play. There really is nothing there in the way of significant contribution except when his line spends a a bit of time in the O-zone.

Elbows claims he is useless except when he has the puck below the goal line. I am far more charitable saying he is OK inside the blueline of the O-zone.
- RickJ

charitable is below the dots. He tries too many cross ice passes just inside the blue line leading a rush coming the other way.

He is not good.

He must be doing something right since he's part of the Blackhawks winning record and going up against better centers than him. I guess he's not on the score sheet seems to be all that matters to most, or he's not faster than everyone or stronger than everyone. Winning is a team effort ask Torts
- BetweenTheDots

He is getting caved in every time he is on the ice. He is being sheltered and still is ending up on the wrong side of the ice.

Its not about points. Name one other things he brings to a team besides points?

No Zamboni?

I know JC is a mastermind, but the 7 D lineup yields some bad pairings.

On the 1st CAR goal, Zadorov and deHaan were together. Both are minus skaters, not a good thing against a fast team like the ‘Canes. Zadorov & deHaan both turned the puck over on the play, and neither was quick enough to recover.

On the 2nd, somehow Boqvist & Beaudin were together, on a D zone start. The 2 rookies (yes, I know Boqvist isn’t technically a rookie) looked lost & overwhelmed.

How’s about playing 6, and keeping a vet with a rookie? Keith and Mitchell together seem to have things figured out, in both the O & D zones.
- scottak

Exactly. That’s why the Hawks need to go with 8D.

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