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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 20 @ 11:24 AM ET
What logistics? The ice is not going to melt. Its on a golf course in the middle of winter so we don't have to worry about any one teeing it up. Television always has flex time built in and can make it work if they need to. The teams can always move games around, they have done so already this season. There is NO reason I can think of they can't postpone this game one week.
- jd250


I'm sure there is no reason that you can think of. I can think of one very big reason. Perhaps you need to think some more.
Ftown19125
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 09.17.2013

Feb 20 @ 11:44 AM ET
It isn’t about who who is better. It’s about he can be replaced. Can you not see the difference?

So would you protect NAK in the expansion draft?

- login


So now we’re suggesting he can be replaced by a worse player. You still drunk from cheers, you weirdo?
DANCER
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.30.2019

Feb 20 @ 12:01 PM ET
We need to focus on what is, not what we hope. Patrick was the consensus #2 pick after Heschier. As a matter of fact he was thought of as the #1 for a lot of people. He has been hurt and ill. But he's a precious commodity. He certainly needs time, and he's going to get it. Unfortunately he hasn't broken out yet.
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Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.21.2020

Feb 20 @ 12:25 PM ET
So now we’re suggesting he can be replaced by a worse player. You still drunk from cheers, you weirdo?
- Ftown19125

NAK is a core player. Irreplaceable. Without him flyers are a worse team. No way can Bunnaman step in and expect the same team results.

Shocked you didn’t stop by.
Ftown19125
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 09.17.2013

Feb 20 @ 12:42 PM ET
NAK is a core player. Irreplaceable. Without him flyers are a worse team. No way can Bunnaman step in and expect the same team results.

Shocked you didn’t stop by.

- login


I never said he was irreplaceable. You tried shifting to that because you were wrong.
Ftown19125
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 09.17.2013

Feb 20 @ 12:44 PM ET
Kakko was just put on Covid protocol. Weird timing, right after they played the Flyers.
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Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.21.2020

Feb 20 @ 12:45 PM ET
I never said he was irreplaceable. You tried shifting to that because you were wrong.
- Ftown19125

Not shifting anything. Go back and reread.
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Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.21.2020

Feb 20 @ 12:45 PM ET
Kakko was just put on Covid protocol. Weird timing, right after they played the Flyers.
- Ftown19125

Its uncanny
Ftown19125
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 09.17.2013

Feb 20 @ 12:47 PM ET
Not shifting anything. Go back and reread.
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I don’t need to. You said strome stinks and wouldn’t be an NHLer. I reminded you that you said the same thing about NAK. You denied saying that and then shifted to him being irreplaceable, which wasn’t said. Glad we’re all caught up now.
Ftown19125
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 09.17.2013

Feb 20 @ 12:47 PM ET
Its uncanny
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Lol butthurt.
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Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.21.2020

Feb 20 @ 12:51 PM ET
I don’t need to. You said strome stinks and wouldn’t be an NHLer. I reminded you that you said the same thing about NAK. You denied saying that and then shifted to him being irreplaceable, which wasn’t said. Glad we’re all caught up now.
- Ftown19125

Go back re read. Clearly said yesterday I didn’t think he was an nhl player. Didn’t shift anything.

Strome does stink.
login
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.21.2020

Feb 20 @ 12:51 PM ET
Lol butthurt.
- Ftown19125

OMG. At what ?
Ftown19125
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 09.17.2013

Feb 20 @ 12:58 PM ET
Go back re read. Clearly said yesterday I didn’t think he was an nhl player. Didn’t shift anything.

Strome does stink.

- login


Don’t need to. Keep denying and shifting the convo.
Angus4444
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.03.2018

Feb 20 @ 1:34 PM ET
Don’t need to. Keep denying and shifting the convo.
- Ftown19125

Did we miss the big fight ? Can it be rescheduled in the parking lot next week ?
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Feb 20 @ 2:39 PM ET
Fletcher did sign Stewart over NAK for AV to use on the 4th line did he not...

Anyway if NAK never played again it would have zero bearing on any success the flyers have or don't have in the future. He can be replaced internally. He isn't TK or Farabee who can not be replaced internally and are critical to the flyers future. Surely you see the difference.

- login


Yes he did and the 4th line was slower and the forecheck sucked. The team also was not playing well. NAK also took that spot away from Stewart because he was better. Players progress is not flat. Just because Stewart started on the team over NAK doesnt mean NAK was playing at the level he currently is now.

Players improve over time.
RajaAmpat
Joined: 12.16.2018

Feb 20 @ 3:59 PM ET
Kakko was just put on Covid protocol. Weird timing, right after they played the Flyers.
- Ftown19125


To be fair they played the Debs two nights before who had 19 guys on the list at one point.. and if I could bet on where the Flyers caught it look back to Jan 26-28
Peter Richards
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Feb 20 @ 4:32 PM ET
So mark Friedman is a forward. This season just keeps getting better. Lol.

Can’t wait til gritty suits up
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Feb 20 @ 4:44 PM ET
So mark Friedman is a forward. This season just keeps getting better. Lol.

Can’t wait til gritty suits up

- Peter Richards


So is the avalanche knights game currently delayed? It’s been first intermission for 1hr I’d say.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Feb 20 @ 4:53 PM ET
Your post is not in the correct context in my opinion. The issue at this point isn't whether he was worth the 2nd pick in the draft. That is irrelevant at this point. The conversation and the question is what does Patrick have to do to be better, to be more of a factor offensively? Skating ability is not an issue with Patrick. It seems to me you have a real issue with properly assessing skating ability with players. The issue is where Patrick is skating to on the ice. Is he around the puck, is he at the net. Is he getting to the scoring areas around the net?
Here you again with " he is what he is". I guess it's another young player who can't improve. I guess we have to have that conversation again! Absurd

If Patrick can become a 20-20 two way center, than that is a valuable player for the team as a center behind Couturier and Hayes. It's about the big picture. It's about the team. It's about center depth.

- MJL

I can get 3rd and 4th line center depth any time I want, I don't need to waste the number 2 pick in the draft for it! However, I agree that speed alone does not get it done, in that you need to know where to go on the ice to be in the best position both offensively and defensively. And I'm sure its possible that Patrick can develop his game to become a 20/20 player like you said, which for contending team is a valuable piece.

But the Flyers are not a cup contending team IMO; they need a top pairing defenseman and a 40+ goal scorer much more than they need a 3rd line center if they are going to become a true cup contender. Whether its fair or not, Patrick is not living up to the player everyone thought he would be, including Hextall who thought he was drafting a number 1 center for years to come.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Feb 20 @ 4:55 PM ET
I'm sure there is no reason that you can think of. I can think of one very big reason. Perhaps you need to think some more.
- MJL

OK, I am putting my super thinking cap on ... wait ... wait .. nope ... nothing yet.
Landsbergfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gävle, Sweden
Joined: 07.15.2014

Feb 20 @ 5:05 PM ET
Hart need dark sunglasses in this glary light at Lake Tahoe
corduroy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT
Joined: 12.09.2006

Feb 20 @ 5:30 PM ET
So is the avalanche knights game currently delayed? It’s been first intermission for 1hr I’d say.
- Hextall271


Will restart at 10Eastern I believe, Flyers gamed moved to 7 eastern tomorrow night, game also switched from NBC to the old outdoor network
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Feb 20 @ 5:36 PM ET
Will restart at 10Eastern I believe, Flyers gamed moved to 7 eastern tomorrow night, game also switched from NBC to the old outdoor network
- corduroy


Gotcha. That’s a late one.
Landsbergfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gävle, Sweden
Joined: 07.15.2014

Feb 20 @ 5:47 PM ET
Gotcha. That’s a late one.
- Hextall271

They had to. Poop 💩 ice and impossible bright 🌞 light on the daytime start
corduroy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT
Joined: 12.09.2006

Feb 20 @ 5:59 PM ET
Gotcha. That’s a late one.
- Hextall271


my bad -- midnight eastern is return time for tonight's game
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