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Bill Meltzer
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Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Feb 19 @ 1:13 PM ET
Patrick also seems to pass the puck away more than take it himself. Even when he has a semi scoring chance, he’ll look for pass. I always remember hearing he had a heavy shot. I’d like to see it more. But I won’t rip on the guy, the extended time away can be impacting his decision making and/or confidence.
- arichardson22


I don't think he's playing poorly; just want to see him be a little more assertive -- on a consistent basis -- with the puck on his stick. His all-around game has been fine. But I will also say that Patrick went through significant offensive stretches of playing similar to his last seven games before he missed last season. I don't think it's just a matter of the time away, because he often played similarly in his rookie and 2nd seasons.
Peter Richards
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Feb 19 @ 1:18 PM ET
If NAK never plays another game for the flyers, do you think that will have any effect on where they finish going forward?
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Why do you think he is currently a starter?
Peter Richards
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Philadelphia Flyers
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Feb 19 @ 1:19 PM ET
I don't think he's playing poorly; just want to see him be a little more assertive -- on a consistent basis -- with the puck on his stick. His all-around game has been fine. But I will also say that Patrick went through significant offensive stretches of playing similar to his last seven games before he missed last season. I don't think it's just a matter of the time away, because he often played similarly in his rookie and 2nd seasons.
- bmeltzer


Bill in both those seasons didn’t he fare much better on the back 9.
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Feb 19 @ 1:26 PM ET
Why do you think he is currently a starter?
- Peter Richards

Why dont you provide an answer to the question.
Peter Richards
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Philadelphia Flyers
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Feb 19 @ 1:29 PM ET
Why dont you provide an answer to the question.
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Already did. Now it’s your turn.
bird_dog_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 07.05.2011

Feb 19 @ 1:32 PM ET
I was always harping on Coots offensive game, or lack there of, I'm kinda in the same boat with Patrick. For a second overall pick his lack of offensive skill is frustrating. I'll give it time, as I learned from Couturier.

Patrick just doesn't seem to possess higher-end puck skills, he's more of a north/south guy who plays on the outside a lot....the next three kids taken after him are just unbelievable players, the ones that got away

- Dave21Brown


I absolutely disagree on Patrick’s pick skills. I don’t think he is a dangler fake dmen out of there jocks type of player.
Before he went out over a year he scored a nice between the legs goal. Last night he had a pass behind him at the ozone blue line that he made a very nice back hand receive on and kept the play going.

But he also can be more assertive. There was a time on the power play when Hayes was along the boards in Jakes normal spot.
Patrick was in G’s spot. A stride or two towards the net would have given Hayes a very open lane for a back door shot on goal.
The talent is there, the puck skills are there .the confidence not so much.
This is where the coaching staff really need to work one on one with him.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Feb 19 @ 1:32 PM ET
I’d argue that he clearly has high end puck skill, and a good head for the game. He makes those subtle passes a guy like Giroux makes. He just isn’t asserting his game, being passive, sticking to the perimeter too much .
- ClaudeFather


Patrick's skill was higher end for his draft class, but I don't think you could really say that he's really that high end for today's NHL.

Above average would be more accurate, IMO.

I think he's capable of making nice plays now and then... but truly high end guys can do it all the time, under pressure.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Feb 19 @ 1:38 PM ET
Why do you think he is currently a starter?
- Peter Richards


Because he was far and away the teams most effective forechecker last season. And he is still one of the best forecheckers this season so far.
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Feb 19 @ 1:43 PM ET
Already did. Now it’s your turn.
- Peter Richards

No you didnt.

If NAK never plays another game for the flyers, do you think that will have any effect on where they finish going forward?
arichardson22
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Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Feb 19 @ 2:02 PM ET
I don't think he's playing poorly; just want to see him be a little more assertive -- on a consistent basis -- with the puck on his stick. His all-around game has been fine. But I will also say that Patrick went through significant offensive stretches of playing similar to his last seven games before he missed last season. I don't think it's just a matter of the time away, because he often played similarly in his rookie and 2nd seasons.
- bmeltzer


I don’t think he’s playing poorly either, it’s more-so a gear hasn’t been reached / unlocked. I’m ecstatic he’s even back playing for us and won’t call him a bust, ever. Do you think it’s a similar thing to Frost? I remember last season it was said Frost had stretches of not being as engaged in games as he could be.
Ftown19125
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 09.17.2013

Feb 19 @ 2:08 PM ET
Because he was far and away the teams most effective forechecker last season. And he is still one of the best forecheckers this season so far.
- MBFlyerfan


What? There’s no way that’s true. An expert here said he stinks.
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Feb 19 @ 2:09 PM ET
What? There’s no way that’s true. An expert here said he stinks.
- Ftown19125

the little school girl with the crush on the good looking guy continues.\

Provide 1 post where I said he stinks.
Ftown19125
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Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 09.17.2013

Feb 19 @ 2:20 PM ET
the little school girl with the crush on the good looking guy continues.\

Provide 1 post where I said he stinks.

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Considering you went from defending your stance to now pretending you never said it, I don't think that's necessary.
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Feb 19 @ 2:22 PM ET


Considering you went from defending your stance to now pretending you never said it, I don't think that's necessary.

- Ftown19125

show me 1 post I said he stinks. Just 1. Nothing to defend. Didn't think he was going to be an NHL player. Nothing more nothing less.
Ftown19125
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 09.17.2013

Feb 19 @ 2:25 PM ET
show me 1 post I said he stinks. Just 1. Nothing to defend. Didn't think he was going to be an NHL player. Nothing more nothing less.
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i am joking 100%. NAK stinks. Many on these boards have said what i am joking about though. Clearly an nhl player in their eyes.
- daryl stanley



Djapana
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Sunset Dreaming, FL
Joined: 09.16.2017

Feb 19 @ 2:35 PM ET
He should be able to with ease. I think the Flyers jumped the gun on making him a forward. And now it seems like they are being stubborn when they could have clearly used him on defense when we had some injuries.
- MBFlyerfan


He accumulated 9 NHL games on D in the almost 8 years since he was drafted. I don’t think “ jump the gun” is the right term to use with Morin. It’s simple really. He’s not an NHL player at any position. I’ll be very surprised if they offer him a QO after this season. Time to move on.
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Feb 19 @ 2:35 PM ET
i am joking 100%. NAK stinks. Many on these boards have said what i am joking about though. Clearly an nhl player in their eyes.
- daryl stanley


- Ftown19125

I said show me 1 post. Try again.

What was the date of that post.
Ftown19125
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Joined: 09.17.2013

Feb 19 @ 2:47 PM ET
I said show me 1 post. Try again.

What was the date of that post.

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no need. you deleted the original post like a sad little weirdo, but you can't delete when someone quotes you. that's actually pathetic.
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Feb 19 @ 2:49 PM ET
no need. you deleted the original post like a sad little weirdo, but you can't delete when someone quotes you. that's actually pathetic.
- Ftown19125

You have me confused with someone else Holmes. You just posted it so what's the date?

the guy who follows me around like a love sick school girl calls someone else a weirdo.
Ftown19125
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 09.17.2013

Feb 19 @ 2:52 PM ET
You have me confused with someone else Holmes. You just posted it so what's the date?

the guy who follows me around like a love sick school girl calls someone else a weirdo.

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lol you keep saying that, but i haven't said anything to you in over a month. i just think it's hilarious pointing out what a moron you are.
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Feb 19 @ 2:56 PM ET
lol you keep saying that, but i haven't said anything to you in over a month. i just think it's hilarious pointing out what a moron you are.
- Ftown19125

Its ok I enjoy it. I cant be as knowledgeable as you with that catholic school education.

Keep in mind the GM and coaching staff (the experts) also didn't think he was an NHL player; nor did the prior regime. That is why he was waived very early in camp last year; also why he was roughly the 6th call up option when he got his chance. What do they know anyway.

I will be at Cheers in Port Richmond around 6:30 stop in.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Feb 19 @ 3:06 PM ET
Patrick's skill was higher end for his draft class, but I don't think you could really say that he's really that high end for today's NHL.

Above average would be more accurate, IMO.

I think he's capable of making nice plays now and then... but truly high end guys can do it all the time, under pressure.

- Tomahawk

Idk it’s tough to really know with him missing an entire year , I hope he starts to show his skill as the year progresses. I think back to that goal against Montreal where he went under the guys triangle, threw a fake, and went upstairs. Or his shootout move against NYR and Arizona , those are all high level skill plays.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Feb 19 @ 3:07 PM ET
Wentz is a loser

Prior to benching, Wentz and Pederson didn't speak for months. Wentz skipped meetings and refused to work with Pederson due to Eagles drafting Hurts.

https://975thefanatic.com...wentz-deal-came-together/
DANCER
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.30.2019

Feb 19 @ 3:24 PM ET
Idk it’s tough to really know with him missing an entire year , I hope he starts to show his skill as the year progresses. I think back to that goal against Montreal where he went under the guys triangle, threw a fake, and went upstairs. Or his shootout move against NYR and Arizona , those are all high level skill plays.
- ClaudeFather
The thing is that we will absolutely get to see it play out. The Flyers are going to give him every opportunity to succeed. I believe he's protected from the expansion draft. But look at what Kappo and Lafrenierre are doing. We need patience.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Feb 19 @ 3:25 PM ET
The thing is that we will absolutely get to see it play out. The Flyers are going to give him every opportunity to succeed. I believe he's protected from the expansion draft. But look at what Kappo and Lafrenierre are doing. We need patience.
- DANCER

Amen, hoping for the best
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