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PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: 1st rd exit is the new normal, ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Feb 18 @ 10:45 AM ET
removing the plus minus warts, Rielly is 14-13 in goals on ice at 5v5
so +1, but he is worst on the team in that regard still

- senstroll


Rielly seems to be more concerned with scoring goals then preventing goals against. Which is fine, if he was a forward but he's not.
Rang
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 08.21.2006

Feb 18 @ 10:45 AM ET
If you think a blown lead to the Senators is bad, how about dem Sabres

Eichel ($10M cap hit): 2 goals (11 points)
Skinner ($9M): 0 goals (1 point)
Hall ($8M): 1 goal, (9 points)
Okposo ($6M): 0 goals (0 points)
Reinhart ($5.2M): 3 goals (7 points)

Wow, 6 goals for $38 M in cap hit
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Feb 18 @ 10:49 AM ET
If you think a blown lead to the Senators is bad, how about dem Sabres

Eichel ($10M cap hit): 2 goals (11 points)
Skinner ($9M): 0 goals (1 point)
Hall ($8M): 1 goal, (9 points)
Okposo ($6M): 0 goals (0 points)
Reinhart ($5.2M): 3 goals (7 points)

Wow, 6 goals for $38 M in cap hit

- Rang



what does this have to do with that poop stain william Nylander?
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Feb 18 @ 10:50 AM ET
If you think a blown lead to the Senators is bad, how about dem Sabres

Eichel ($10M cap hit): 2 goals (11 points)
Skinner ($9M): 0 goals (1 point)
Hall ($8M): 1 goal, (9 points)
Okposo ($6M): 0 goals (0 points)
Reinhart ($5.2M): 3 goals (7 points)

Wow, 6 goals for $38 M in cap hit

- Rang



Well to be fair they did play less games because of Covid.

But Skinner and Okposo are dead weight. 15M of dead weight.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: 1st rd exit is the new normal, ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Feb 18 @ 10:50 AM ET
If you think a blown lead to the Senators is bad, how about dem Sabres

Eichel ($10M cap hit): 2 goals (11 points)
Skinner ($9M): 0 goals (1 point)
Hall ($8M): 1 goal, (9 points)
Okposo ($6M): 0 goals (0 points)
Reinhart ($5.2M): 3 goals (7 points)

Wow

- Rang



Meh, if Andersen is supposed to be a #1 goalie why did Joe Thornton say that they need to look after him?
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Feb 18 @ 10:52 AM ET
Meh, if Andersen is supposed to be a #1 goalie why did Joe Thornton say that they need to look after him?
- PatC80


Excellent point!
Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Cause y’know we’ll all be found | when I come around, ON
Joined: 07.24.2011

Feb 18 @ 10:52 AM ET
If you think a blown lead to the Senators is bad, how about dem Sabres

Eichel ($10M cap hit): 2 goals (11 points)
Skinner ($9M): 0 goals (1 point)
Hall ($8M): 1 goal, (9 points)
Okposo ($6M): 0 goals (0 points)
Reinhart ($5.2M): 3 goals (7 points)

Wow

- Rang

They've played 5 fewer games than Toronto.

Hall = .75ppg
Reinhart = .7ppg
Willy = .705ppg

wow.

Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Cause y’know we’ll all be found | when I come around, ON
Joined: 07.24.2011

Feb 18 @ 10:53 AM ET
what does this have to do with that poop stain william Nylander?
- senstroll

just show his comparisons.. Reinhart is actually a much better contract.
Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Cause y’know we’ll all be found | when I come around, ON
Joined: 07.24.2011

Feb 18 @ 10:54 AM ET
Meh, if Andersen is supposed to be a #1 goalie why did Joe Thornton say that they need to look after him?
- PatC80

Because they allow far too many high quality chances.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Feb 18 @ 10:54 AM ET
Meh, if Andersen is supposed to be a #1 goalie why did Joe Thornton say that they need to look after him?
- PatC80

oh.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: 1st rd exit is the new normal, ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Feb 18 @ 10:54 AM ET
Excellent point!
- Scabeh


don't hear other teams say "We need to coddle our goalie"
Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Cause y’know we’ll all be found | when I come around, ON
Joined: 07.24.2011

Feb 18 @ 10:55 AM ET
don't hear other teams say "We need to coddle our goalie"
- PatC80

worst fans ever.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Feb 18 @ 10:55 AM ET
Well to be fair they did play less games because of Covid.

But Skinner and Okposo are dead weight. 15M of dead weight.

- Scabeh

Not exactly a scientificmical survey, but wow, the Sabres thread is angry right now.

People are saying to trade Eichel.

We need to keep an eye on this, in case Hockeybuzz-Sabres edition decides to jettison Dahlin.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Feb 18 @ 10:55 AM ET
They've played 5 fewer games than Toronto.

Hall = .75ppg
Reinhart = .7ppg
Willy = .705ppg

wow.

- Arctic_AARDVARK

You aren't winning if your top players aren't scoring goals.

And they aren't winning.
Cush29
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Who Owzzzzz da' Chiefs?, ON
Joined: 12.22.2014

Feb 18 @ 10:56 AM ET
According to Down Goes Brown, the Ref has to do that.
- Monkeypunk

rSole
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I usually disagree with Dozzer, ON
Joined: 12.16.2013

Feb 18 @ 10:56 AM ET
I don't care what anyone says Leafs won last night and that means......

https://youtu.be/u4rc-rmvEd8

- Cush29


Lol. That is the greatest thing I have seen in a while.
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Not here to sell jerseys , ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Feb 18 @ 10:56 AM ET
Statistics?
- mjones242


So how are we doing compared to the KHL?
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: 1st rd exit is the new normal, ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Feb 18 @ 10:57 AM ET
Because they allow far too many high quality chances.
- Arctic_AARDVARK


but, it's Ottawa...

I think the way you feel abut Nylander is the way I feel about Andersen. Needs to be consistently better.
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Feb 18 @ 10:57 AM ET
If you think a blown lead to the Senators is bad, how about dem Sabres

Eichel ($10M cap hit): 2 goals (11 points)
Skinner ($9M): 0 goals (1 point)
Hall ($8M): 1 goal, (9 points)
Okposo ($6M): 0 goals (0 points)
Reinhart ($5.2M): 3 goals (7 points)

Wow, 6 goals for $38 M in cap hit

- Rang


It’s more fun poopting on the ones you love
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Feb 18 @ 10:57 AM ET
Not exactly a scientificmical survey, but wow, the Sabres thread is angry right now.

People are saying to trade Eichel.

We need to keep an eye on this, in case Hockeybuzz-Sabres edition decides to jettison Dahlin.

- Atomic Wedgie


Well Eichel was already adamant about being "tired of losing".

They bring in the biggest UFA available in Taylor Hall.

They are still losing.

I know alot of people laughed about Bergevin when he said in 2018 that the Habs main focus was the change the culture of the team, bringing guys with a better attitude.

But teams like the Sabres or Coyotes are proving his point, getting rid of a losing mentality can be very difficult sometimes. The Sabres shouldn't be this bad with guys as talented as Eichel, Reinhart, Hall and Dahlin leading the way. They just shouldn't.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Feb 18 @ 10:59 AM ET
If you think a blown lead to the Senators is bad, how about dem Sabres

Eichel ($10M cap hit): 2 goals (11 points)
Skinner ($9M): 0 goals (1 point)
Hall ($8M): 1 goal, (9 points)
Okposo ($6M): 0 goals (0 points)
Reinhart ($5.2M): 3 goals (7 points)

Wow, 6 goals for $38 M in cap hit

- Rang

Ya that looks bad.
But I love the skinner and okposo contracts....love that the sabres have them.
6 years left for skinner
mjones242
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pretentious Beer Snob, ON
Joined: 06.22.2015

Feb 18 @ 10:59 AM ET
Haven't they best Montreal two out of three so far?
- Zezel

Sure, but you could make a case that the Habs outplayed and outworked the Leafs in each of those games.
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Feb 18 @ 10:59 AM ET
Not exactly a scientificmical survey, but wow, the Sabres thread is angry right now.

People are saying to trade Eichel.

We need to keep an eye on this, in case Hockeybuzz-Sabres edition decides to jettison Dahlin.

- Atomic Wedgie


Be ready to swoop in when they’re weak.

Nylander for Eichel and Dahlin

We may need to add for salary. 🤪
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: 1st rd exit is the new normal, ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Feb 18 @ 10:59 AM ET
worst fans ever.
- Arctic_AARDVARK



Says the dude that hates William Nylander..

Maybe Jumbo Joe is just a big softie and a cuddly teddy bear..

We may disagree, but Andersen has been ok, just ok.. Hasn't ben anywhere near consistent though
Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Cause y’know we’ll all be found | when I come around, ON
Joined: 07.24.2011

Feb 18 @ 11:00 AM ET
but, it's Ottawa...

I think the way you feel abut Nylander is the way I feel about Andersen. Needs to be consistently better.

- PatC80

except goaltending is way more important than a 2nd line LW, and Willy makes 2mil more than freddy.

If Willy made 5mil or less i wouldn't care at all about his inconsistency. Freddy has been good this year.
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