Marner is 13th P/60 5v5 last three seasons; Matthews 14th. (Kucherov 1st, Panarin 2nd, McDavid 3rd)

Matthews is first G/60 5v5 last three seasons; next ones are Gallagher, Ovechkin, Vrana, Pastrnak.
- MaximusAurelius

just checked.
nylander is 81st in NHL 5v5 goals / 60 last three seasons. (minimum 25 games played)
the /60 avoids the half season issue.
that's a fringe 1st line FW.
EDIT: fringe 1st line FW considering his main strength should be scoring goals.
- MaximusAurelius

Give us the goal differential that’s the real story. I’m lying in bed and not too motivated to be sorting through stats. 😎

Which hall of fame are we talking about here?
- Scabeh

he did go to TSNs 1V1 hall of fame....but to be fair it was when he got danced by McDavid so probably not what he was talking about.

Marner is 13th P/60 5v5 last three seasons; Matthews 14th. (Kucherov 1st, Panarin 2nd, McDavid 3rd)

Matthews is first G/60 5v5 last three seasons; next ones are Gallagher, Ovechkin, Vrana, Pastrnak.
- MaximusAurelius

Just for the record, PP pts are still pts.

There's no way Calgary trades Lindholm imo.

His contract is amazing and he's very, very good.
- Scabeh

i know that Scabeh...thats why I want him

Bennett has asked for a trade. Does Dubas not know this?
- Canada Cup

Willy and Future Hall of Famer Rielly for Bennett and Lanny McDonald.

Cool to see everyone out with their predetermined fall guys for a team collapse. Plenty of blame to go around which means everyone is right. A happy day in Leaf land
- Canada Cup

It was a garbage end to a good start. The emotional sway gets people in a frenzy. I'm not sure what this team needs in order to learn to finish teams off and not get complacent, but they have a real tendency to do it - starting with our best players in Matthews and Marner.

Every player has off nights or off moments, but it's rare that so many coalesce together at the same time. Tavares, Nylander, Kerfoot, Vesey, Spezza, Muzzin, Bogosian, Rielly and Andersen all had bad games.

The team has problems that we all know about. Rielly is great but not great defensively. Brodie has typically added nice balance there this year. Bogosian is tough, but can be a defensive problem. Last night he had a bad game - right from the opening faceoff. The offense had us forgetting how bad he was on the other end of the ice for while, but he was bad. I mean we all call for Vesey's blood, but he doesn't even play enough to be a factor. He stinks, but who cares? Most other players in his spot that we have available will also stink. I guess based on performance this year, I'd rather Petan was playing - but would that change the outcome?

Someone posted a few pages that they needed this. As much as I hate it, I have to agree. They deserved it, too. They have to learn to play consistently and together for the full 60, or we'll have to find new and exciting ways to complain the team.

Can Brian Rafalski get in first? He won 3 Cups.
- gergeswillems

you get a fart from Larry Robinson and his 6 Stanley Cup win

Yea should be close.

For sure if he wins a cup.
- Arctic_AARDVARK

It's also a strange comparison from a data perspective. It deliberately incorporates the worst year of a player's performance which involved a hold-out, missed training camp and so on. Do we all know that he failed to show up in game shape? Yes. I still think that was unprofessional, and is always a consideration about his character when you watch him take shifts off. I think he probably is, at his core, a lazy player and will always require a lot of a coach's attention to motivate. But this character evaluation is not equivalent to a data comparison, and the data unfairly influences a data comparison by including that year.

If you take the last three years, though, and look at GF/60 at 5v5, there's a whole bunch of other garbage players who are lower in GF/60 like Malkin, Evander Kane, Eichel, Laine, Landeskog, Crosby, Scheifele, Barzal, Kopitar, Rantanen, Sequin, Marner . . . you know, classic non-first liners. Fringe. Or crap, if you will. Not to mention Roope Hintz at 152 and our newly annointed first liner, Galchenyuk, sitting at 282 using this metric.
- Monkeypunk

*Reported for using unnecessary force to someone in a compromised position.

Willy and Future Hall of Famer Rielly for Bennett and Lanny McDonald.
- gergeswillems

what? no!

i already worked this out, its Willy, Dermott, and Kerfoot for Bennett, Tanev, and Dube.

Which hall of fame are we talking about here?
- Scabeh

The Rocky Saganiuck Invitational Hall of Fame. It's very exclusive. You wouldn't know about it because there's a crudely painted sign hanging out front that says, 'No Habs!'.

There's no way Calgary trades Lindholm imo.

His contract is amazing and he's very, very good.
- Scabeh

You can always get Sub Par Lindholm. He recently cleared waivers.

- haywoodjablome

It's Toronto, our players are more special

what? no!

i already worked this out, its Willy, Dermott, and Kerfoot for Bennett, Tanev, and Dube.
- Arctic_AARDVARK

Not Bobby Orr Tanev! He's not available!

Not Bobby Orr Tanev! He's not available!
- gergeswillems

I've been told Willy's hair is too much to resist.

Gotta consider that.

i know that Scabeh...thats why I want him
- senstroll

Right.

My bad.

Chucky must have great value after not getting claimed on waiver
- Symba007

He's got a really low cap hit, so that's what makes him very attractive to other teams.

We bundle him with Dermott, Bracco and Christian Hanson, and teams will be willing to give up a 1st pairing RHD.

And a lot of young teams want a guy like Chucky in the dressing room to help mentor the young kids - the coaches can use him as an example of why you should stay away from drugs.

So far Willy and Rielly are being traded.
- gergeswillems

oh what about Ander6en ?

you get a fart from Larry Robinson and his 6 Stanley Cup win
- Symba007

Here's to you Larry Robinson. You were tall and beat up The Hammer one 70s day. Hey hey hey

He is?
- gergeswillems

If you only count players from the 2012 draft, he's a 1st balloter.

It was a garbage end to a good start. The emotional sway gets people in a frenzy. I'm not sure what this team needs in order to learn to finish teams off and not get complacent, but they have a real tendency to do it - starting with our best players in Matthews and Marner.

Every player has off nights or off moments, but it's rare that so many coalesce together at the same time. Tavares, Nylander, Kerfoot, Vesey, Spezza, Muzzin, Bogosian, Rielly and Andersen all had bad games.

The team has problems that we all know about. Rielly is great but not great defensively. Brodie has typically added nice balance there this year. Bogosian is tough, but can be a defensive problem. Last night he had a bad game - right from the opening faceoff. The offense had us forgetting how bad he was on the other end of the ice for while, but he was bad. I mean we all call for Vesey's blood, but he doesn't even play enough to be a factor. He stinks, but who cares? Most other players in his spot that we have available will also stink. I guess based on performance this year, I'd rather Petan was playing - but would that change the outcome?

Someone posted a few pages that they needed this. As much as I hate it, I have to agree. They deserved it, too. They have to learn to play consistently and together for the full 60, or we'll have to find new and exciting ways to complain the team.
- Monkeypunk

Tavares didn't have a bad game - he's been absolutely poop for about 5 games now.

He's still getting insignificant points, but gawd, he's looked awful. He's fumbling with the puck. He's missing passes. You saw his multiple giveaways last night. He's bumping into his own players.

Something's not right with the guy at the moment.

oh what about Ander6en ?
- dmnted

Freddy is being traded to Carolina for Busta Reims. James Reimer. Who's currently getting more goal support than Grant Fuhr and Andy Moog did for the '84 Oilers.

Dermott is a fringe NHL'er..

Rielly is on a potential HOF trajectory.
- Arctic_AARDVARK

hey, I like that man but this

Tavares didn't have a bad game - he's been absolutely poop for about 5 games now.

He's still getting insignificant points, but gawd, he's looked awful. He's fumbling with the puck. He's missing passes. You saw his multiple giveaways last night. He's bumping into his own players.

Something's not right with the guy at the moment.
- Atomic Wedgie

Because Willy has no (frank)ing clue where to be on the ice now that he's been told to play more defensivly.