Detroit offense through 17 games:

Goals / 60 while playing at 5-on-5: 1.90
Goals / 60 while playing at 5-on-4: 1.91

We literally do not get any better at scoring goals when playing with a man advantage. Essentially 100% of the benefit of being on the powerplay for Detroit so far this season is defensive in nature (i.e., we don't improve our chance of scoring but at least we improve our chances to not get scored on).

It is really by far the most aggravating thing about this season so far IMO. Detroit is playing well enough at even strength to win games. The defense has been good. The goaltending has been competent. If the special teams were even average this team could probably play pretty close to .500 hockey. Still not good enough to squeak into the playoffs, but not remotely a last place team either.
- Sven22

There's no doubt that the PP is absolutely abysmal. But, having someone like Filpula or Neilsen on PP2 is an indicator that there's a serious underlying issue. Would think that Bylsma would have something on the ball with this, Houda as well, as both have a pretty good sense for these things. This is another reason why I go back to getting the young guys in for some reps....may not be the panacea, but giving the kids a go sure can't help what's already a ship-show, ya know?

This is an internet discussion board. Some of you need to grow a pair.
- Feds91Stammer

Listen, debate is good, I'm not begrudging that at all. But sometimes you take it too far. We all do. And it's not a bad thing for folks to point it out so one realizes what they're doing. I guess it's part of learning ones self; being able to understand things that others see in us that we don't.

Listen, debate is good, I'm not begrudging that at all. But sometimes you take it too far. We all do. And it's not a bad thing for folks to point it out so one realizes what they're doing. I guess it's part of learning ones self; being able to understand things that others see in us that we don't.
- mcmastermike1968

I didn’t realize boomers were so soft.

I didn’t realize boomers were so soft.
- Feds91Stammer

Maybe. I reckon your mind is what it is, as are your ways. Good luck with that.

I think there was a n insult in there somewhere, but the humor of youth escapes me, what with being so old & out of touch and all.....

Svechnikov to the Taxi Squad, Smith sent to Grand Rapids.

Svechnikov to the Taxi Squad, Smith sent to Grand Rapids.
- Datsyuks_Dangle