Was that #26 out there for another 5v5 goal?
- TheUltimateJet

I swear I saw Zaitsev waiting behind his own net with just over 30 seconds and I was thinking....not again. Why Forbort or Pionk didn’t even attempt to collect that puck? I put that one on them.

Well the fact that Stastny and Wheeler get number 1 power play time over PLD and Ehlers shows me exactly what Maurice thinks of his roster. Wheeler at this point of his career is a second/third line winger and Stastny is a 2B/3A center.

But we know Maurice, he will always go with the veterans.

Also why is Forbort and Beaulieau in the line-up over Heinola? It’s amazing that Colorado can run Girard, Byram, and Makar out regularly and the Jets can’t run out Samberg, Heinola and Stanley out to the same degree. It’s frustrating making sense of this coach’s decisions.
- TheUltimateJet

Forbort has been their second best dman, no way you take him out.

Forbort has been their second best dman, no way you take him out.
- JetFuel

I don’t know whether the analytics support his play or not, but my eyes have not been pleased at all with his play over the past several games.

I done blaming Maurice. This is now all on you Chipman!!! Wake up!!!

I swear I saw Zaitsev waiting behind his own net with just over 30 seconds and I was thinking....not again. Why Forbort or Pionk didn’t even attempt to collect that puck? I put that one on them.
- Jetlag

That mistake was all on Hellebucyk. He should have simply played it behind the net to his teammate who was expecting that standard play and was waiting for it. . It's like he suddenly panicked or something. If he had done so the Jets would have had at least a point. No one else to really blame. A lucky deflection from high in the slot.

That mistake was all on Hellebucyk. He should have simply played it behind the net to his teammate who was expecting that standard play and was waiting for it. . It's like he suddenly panicked or something. If he had done so the Jets would have had at least a point. No one else to really blame. A lucky deflection from high in the slot.
- jetsnation

Yep off the glass or behind the net and we probably got a point. (or two)

But without Helly, Vezina winner (and should have been MVP) we would be totally in trouble. So not going to stay mad at him for a mistake. It happens.

That mistake was all on Hellebucyk. He should have simply played it behind the net to his teammate who was expecting that standard play and was waiting for it. . It's like he suddenly panicked or something. If he had done so the Jets would have had at least a point. No one else to really blame. A lucky deflection from high in the slot.
- jetsnation

That’s one I’m not hanging fully or possibly at all on Bucky. I know he’s an adventure out of the net, but Forbort is heading towards him, then defers to Pionk I think. He’s too late getting behind the net for Hellebuyck to know he’ll be there, thus he leaves it there. Bit of an unlucky sequence but classic late game Jets for sure.

That’s one I’m not hanging fully or possibly at all on Bucky. I know he’s an adventure out of the net, but Forbort is heading towards him, then defers to Pionk I think. He’s too late getting behind the net for Hellebuyck to know he’ll be there, thus he leaves it there. Bit of an unlucky sequence but classic late game Jets for sure.
- Jetlag

Forbort circled behind the net cause he thought Hellebuyck was going to pass it behind the net to him but all Helly did was stop it for the incoming Sens player C.Brown, that was on Helly and no one else though the Jets system where the wingers come way down low and then race out to the opposition dman didn't help any, if Wheeler keeps a closer gap on the Sens dman that C.Brown passed the puck back to that goal probably doesn't happen.

Forbort circled behind the net cause he thought Hellebuyck was going to pass it behind the net to him but all Helly did was stop it for the incoming Sens player C.Brown, that was on Helly and no one else though the Jets system where the wingers come way down low and then race out to the opposition dman didn't help any, if Wheeler keeps a closer gap on the Sens dman that C.Brown passed the puck back to that goal probably doesn't happen.
- JetFuel

Forbort was heading to the puck and changed course (making him too late for rear net option). I’d say it’s at minimum equal fault to Helly & Forbort. I guess he could’ve gone off glass rather than leave it.

Forbort was heading to the puck and changed course (making him too late for rear net option). I’d say it’s at minimum equal fault to Helly & Forbort. I guess he could’ve gone off glass rather than leave it.
- Jetlag

Watch it again, Forbort changes course to behind the net for Hellebuyck to pass him the puck to but Helly just stops it for C.Brown, if Helly sweeps it behind the net which is what Forbort was anticipating was going to happen that game goes to overtime.

The only thing I'd fault Forbort for on that sequence is if he had been a bit closer and stick checked Tkachuk he might of been able to prevent him from getting that deflection but again if Wheeler doesn't come down low as far and then have to race back to the Sens point man to defend the guy he's supposed to be covering the point shot probably doesn't happen and it at least gets to overtime.

Watch it again, Forbort changes course to behind the net for Hellebuyck to pass him the puck to but Helly just stops it for C.Brown, if Helly sweeps it behind the net which is what Forbort was anticipating was going to happen that game goes to overtime.

The only thing I'd fault Forbort for on that sequence is if he had been a bit closer and stick checked Tkachuk he might of been able to prevent him from getting that deflection but again if Wheeler doesn't come down low as far and then have to race back to the Sens point man to defend the guy he's supposed to be covering the point shot probably doesn't happen and it at least gets to overtime.
- JetFuel

I watched it again, I think Forbort is 12ft or so from his left shoulder when he leaves it there, which is right as Forbort changes course. I still see it the same, even if I’m in the minority. But in discussing this, I remind myself “why in the world are the Jets at this point against this team?” The Jets hardly deserve to get points if that is the best play they can brin* against the Sens. Scheif centering the 4th line was the only goal produced today which just isn’t good enough. Further to this point the win last game was flattering considering they weren’t great in it either, I thought there would’ve been far more urgency this pm.

I watched it again, I think Forbort is 12ft or so from his left shoulder when he leaves it there, which is right as Forbort changes course. I still see it the same, even if I’m in the minority. But in discussing this, I remind myself “why in the world are the Jets at this point against this team?” The Jets hardly deserve to get points if that is the best play they can brin* against the Sens. Scheif centering the 4th line was the only goal produced today which just isn’t good enough. Further to this point the win last game was flattering considering they weren’t great in it either, I thought there would’ve been far more urgency this pm.
- Jetlag

This is all semantics. This is the third game now this season where the Jets have given up a goal in the last minute of a tied game. Perhaps the players are more focussed on who is going to play in overtime rather than continually trying to win the game?

I watched it again, I think Forbort is 12ft or so from his left shoulder when he leaves it there, which is right as Forbort changes course. I still see it the same, even if I’m in the minority. But in discussing this, I remind myself “why in the world are the Jets at this point against this team?” The Jets hardly deserve to get points if that is the best play they can brin* against the Sens. Scheif centering the 4th line was the only goal produced today which just isn’t good enough. Further to this point the win last game was flattering considering they weren’t great in it either, I thought there would’ve been far more urgency this pm.
- Jetlag

I've watched it multiple times and the replays from different angles multiple times and it's on Helly, Forbort was never on course to get there in time to pick up the puck right from Hellybuyck, Helly would've had to pass it to him but he stopped it and that's it, Pionk slows up a bit cause he thinks Helly is gonna shoot it to him as Brown approaches or around the net to Forbort but he just stops it which made it easier for Brown to get to, honestly we can try to shift the blame around but it falls on Helly there plain and simple.

I agree with everything else you said, the Jets should be burying the Sens even without Dubois in the lineup, this team just lacks a killer instinct or they're just flat out not as good as we ever thought they were.

This is all semantics. This is the third game now this season where the Jets have given up a goal in the last minute of a tied game. Perhaps the players are more focussed on who is going to play in overtime rather than continually trying to win the game?
- TheUltimateJet

I agree they struggle to close out games but individually that goal is on Helly, the Jets are a superior team to the Sens (or at least we think they are) and it shouldn't be getting to overtime to start with but that goal with 8 seconds left is another one caused by a goalie who just flat out sucks at playing the puck and not just that he really just makes bone headed decisions when he attempts to play it, I really wish he just didn't leave the crease at all to stop or play the puck.

This team really seems to lack focus, it's either can't start on time, take a period off or can't close out a game strong, not a lot of full 60 minute efforts so far this season, will be interesting to see how the Jets do against the Habs and Leafs who as much as some hate them and think they're overrated they do appear to be the top teams in the North Division.

Ron Hainsey still wants to play. Intriguing for the Jets?

Ron Hainsey still wants to play. Intriguing for the Jets?
- Byfuglien Ate Me

Not!

If we ever get the forward lines somewhat stabilized, we'll be okay. I'm not a huge fan of 11F-7D! 711 fine, but not 11-7.

Helly’s mistake.

Stanley to the taxi squad. Maurice strikes again.

Also, while I’m here, I can see how Helle gets the blame on that specific goal... however, I can’t find it in my heart to blame him when we always fall apart in the closing minutes. Mo has consistently shown an inability to have the team ready to play at puck drop, and an inability to hold it together at the end.

Helly’s mistake.
- bennythehat

I'm not sure why it was even up for discussion.

Stanley to the taxi squad. Maurice strikes again.

Also, while I’m here, I can see how Helle gets the blame on that specific goal... however, I can’t find it in my heart to blame him when we always fall apart in the closing minutes. Mo has consistently shown an inability to have the team ready to play at puck drop, and an inability to hold it together at the end.
- Rexypoo

This is just depressing. I guess management has no problem watching Maurice ruin its players.

This is just depressing. I guess management has no problem watching Maurice ruin its players.
- TheUltimateJet

Easy Ultimate. Stanley has played quite a few games in a row. Throwing him on the taxi squad for a game or two is a good idea. Let him get a rest while Poolman rotates in for a few games. Poolman has played very well since coming back. That taxi squad makes it nice to be able to rotate guys in and out of the lineup very easily . Beaulieu hopefully rotates out next. Maybe a two-man taxi squad is something that sticks after Covid is over.

This is just depressing. I guess management has no problem watching Maurice ruin its players.
- TheUltimateJet

Its probably just a paper transaction to save a bit of actual ca$h on a non game day, as I understand it the taxi squad players get paid an AHL salary so sending guys there on non game days saves real dollar$, he's likely recalled tomorrow but we'll see.

I think Maurice really likes Stanley's game though with Poolman back and the reluctance to risk Niku through waivers plus a personal thing of Niku having a kid here it might very well be that Stanley is the odd man out until an injury occurs.

Here's a thought, won't happen but maybe they should try Stanley on his off hand on the top pair with Morrissey? At some point they need to try him in the top 4 to see if he can handle it so why not now, would add some size to the top pair and if it works then great, if not just put the big man back on the bottom pair.

Random comments:
Performance should be the reference not the line up on paper.
Still dislike the aviator jerseys. Why make the classics so nice and then not wear them?
Jets are not an intimidating team. They can be good, but so can every other team.
The franchise is becoming stale.
Accepting losses comes too easy to this franchise.
This year's team should come second but I just don't see the drive or heart. Likely a tight 4th and a quick exit or fifth.
POMO/Huddy will be gone by season end. They have had a fair shot.
Hoping Heinola and Samberg play a ton in AHL.
Hope Vesalainen and Gustafsons development tops Thompson playing.
Jets can end their history of lying down against the Habs.
Would like to see the Jets win some games against the east.
Some aggressive checkers are missed.

I'm not sure why it was even up for discussion.
- jetsnation

Me neither.....the other mistakes were a chain reaction to the first mistake.

Random comments:
Performance should be the reference not the line up on paper.
Still dislike the aviator jerseys. Why make the classics so nice and then not wear them?
Jets are not an intimidating team. They can be good, but so can every other team.
The franchise is becoming stale.
Accepting losses comes too easy to this franchise.
This year's team should come second but I just don't see the drive or heart. Likely a tight 4th and a quick exit or fifth.
POMO/Huddy will be gone by season end. They have had a fair shot.
Hoping Heinola and Samberg play a ton in AHL.
Hope Vesalainen and Gustafsons development tops Thompson playing.
Jets can end their history of lying down against the Habs.
Would like to see the Jets win some games against the east.
Some aggressive checkers are missed.
- justsaying

Huddy will not be gone. He’s got the best job in the NHL, 100% job security. It boggles my mind that when head coaching opportunities open up in the NHL that Huddy is rarely mentioned as a candidate for any other position, this despite him being with the franchise for that last 10 years. The penalty kill has been atrocious in 9 of his 10 years coaching it. The Jets have finished in the bottom half of the league as well in high danger shots against for the same period, even when we had Trouba, Byfuglien, Myers, Chariot and Enstrom playing on the backend. Unfortunately Huddy will only go when Huddy decides its his time to go.