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vermie22
Joined: 07.13.2011

Feb 12 @ 10:01 AM ET
If I remember well, considering the roster beginning of the season, Leafs were projected to be able to add a player at deadline with a caphit (full season) of around 4.5mln. Palmieri has a caphit of 4.65mln.
Not sure what the impact of injuries etc. has been -- but seems it potentially could work, in particular if they would move a roster player in a trade.

- MaximusAurelius


Injuries have put them into LTIR, and they are no longer accumulating cap space for the trade deadline, each day those players (Thorton, Campbell, Roberston, Simmonds) stay on LTIR, our available cap space for the TDL shrinks.
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Feb 12 @ 10:01 AM ET
If I remember well, considering the roster beginning of the season, Leafs were projected to be able to add a player at deadline with a caphit (full season) of around 4.5mln. Palmieri has a caphit of 4.65mln.
Not sure what the impact of injuries etc. has been -- but seems it potentially could work, in particular if they would move a roster player in a trade.

- MaximusAurelius



I think injuries have affected the space.

but im no capspert
the Projected capspace column on CF, is that the number?
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Feb 12 @ 10:03 AM ET
I think injuries have affected the space.

but im no capspert
the Projected capspace column on CF, is that the number?

- senstroll

Have you checked out the number of really good players hitting IR this year? It's kind of nuts how many guys are out.
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Feb 12 @ 10:09 AM ET
Have you checked out the number of really good players hitting IR this year? It's kind of nuts how many guys are out.
- AdamFrench



Leafs have enough space to buy lunch for 1 player
mr.sir
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Vancouver Island, BC
Joined: 01.18.2015

Feb 12 @ 10:10 AM ET
Remember last year when I constantly posted Anderson Jenner and Savard proposals for Toronto ?

Haters kept saying Anderson is a bust, will be overpaid, always injured etc

Two years ago.... wouldn’t shut up about how we needed Nurse Myers and Huberdeau

Nurse was defensively terrible etc
Myers was hot garbage etc
Huberdeau wasn’t as good as Nylander etc

Just sayin’.......

Sorry for sounding arrogant 😞

Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Feb 12 @ 10:11 AM ET
heard some habs fan saying that just ticked off Weber stick and and over Price glove hand and into the net.
- dmnted

My daughter and I both thought that while watching it.
bryant
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.28.2011

Feb 12 @ 10:14 AM ET
Leafs have enough space to buy lunch for 1 player
- senstroll

What about if a good player is on IR can the leafs trade for him and use him in the playoffs? Providing he would be healthy to start the playoffs? Circumstances would have to be just right, but their salary cap wouldn’t count right?
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Feb 12 @ 10:21 AM ET
I (frank)ing care? The playoffs are a different beast than the regular season.

I'm certainly not counting on a cake walk to the semi-final. Or even, necessarily, that the Buds even make it there.

- mjones242

True, nothing is guaranteed.
And if price goes wall mode in the playoffs, the north is facked.
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Feb 12 @ 10:26 AM ET
What about if a good player is on IR can the leafs trade for him and use him in the playoffs? Providing he would be healthy to start the playoffs? Circumstances would have to be just right, but their salary cap wouldn’t count right?
- bryant



good question. I have no idea.
but that scenario doesnt seem like a Leafs thing

MaximusAurelius
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: #FireDubas
Joined: 04.23.2012

Feb 12 @ 10:29 AM ET
Remember last year when I constantly posted Anderson Jenner and Savard proposals for Toronto ?

Haters kept saying Anderson is a bust, will be overpaid, always injured etc

Two years ago.... wouldn’t shut up about how we needed Nurse Myers and Huberdeau

Nurse was defensively terrible etc
Myers was hot garbage etc
Huberdeau wasn’t as good as Nylander etc

Just sayin’.......


Sorry for sounding arrogant 😞

- mr.sir


Quite a few people were in favor of adding Josh Anderson.

And yes, the Nylander lovers said Huberdeau was not as good -- but people who watch hockey outside of the Leafs always knew that isn't the case at all.
MaximusAurelius
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: #FireDubas
Joined: 04.23.2012

Feb 12 @ 10:32 AM ET
good question. I have no idea.
but that scenario doesnt seem like a Leafs thing

- senstroll



I disagree.
It's actually a very good idea - and Leafs should be looking at it.
It's about timing right (i.e. making sure the player will come off the injury just around TDL) but it's a very low risk high reward strategy (leafs would only lose cash).
MaximusAurelius
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: #FireDubas
Joined: 04.23.2012

Feb 12 @ 10:32 AM ET
good question. I have no idea.
but that scenario doesnt seem like a Leafs thing

- senstroll



I disagree.
It's actually a very good idea - and Leafs should be looking at it.
It's about timing right (i.e. making sure the player will come off the injury just around TDL) but it's a very low risk high reward strategy (leafs would only lose cash).
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Feb 12 @ 10:34 AM ET
Quite a few people were in favor of adding Josh Anderson.

And yes, the Nylander lovers said Huberdeau was not as good -- but people who watch hockey outside of the Leafs always knew that isn't the case at all.

- MaximusAurelius


Well he was seen as a 25 goals powerforward by some.

And David Clarkson by others.

So far, I'm VERY happy with his addition.


senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Feb 12 @ 10:38 AM ET
I disagree.
It's actually a very good idea - and Leafs should be looking at it.
It's about timing right (i.e. making sure the player will come off the injury just around TDL) but it's a very low risk high reward strategy (leafs would only lose cash).

- MaximusAurelius


thats not what I thought he was suggesting.

trade for them and their first game is the playoffs. not before.
which is why I said I dont think the leafs would do that
MaximusAurelius
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: #FireDubas
Joined: 04.23.2012

Feb 12 @ 10:52 AM ET
thats not what I thought he was suggesting.

trade for them and their first game is the playoffs. not before.
which is why I said I dont think the leafs would do that

- senstroll


i agree that's he suggestion, and I like it.
let's say leafs only have capspace at trade deadline to add a 2.5mln caphit player.
but there is a player with a 5mln caphit that is injured, and scheduled to come back 1st week of playoffs. it's an interesting option to look at imo -- only costing cash, but price will probably be very low considering the risk of the player only being able to come in for playoffs (potentially only 4 games).

btw - this would only work if the injured player was a pending UFA player on a team outside of the playoffs - like for example Getzlaf or Palmieri or Hall.

EDIT: sorry - you're right; in my previous post i put 'back around TDL' but I meant start of playoffs.
bryant
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.28.2011

Feb 12 @ 11:05 AM ET
i agree that's he suggestion, and I like it.
let's say leafs only have capspace at trade deadline to add a 2.5mln caphit player.
but there is a player with a 5mln caphit that is injured, and scheduled to come back 1st week of playoffs. it's an interesting option to look at imo -- only costing cash, but price will probably be very low considering the risk of the player only being able to come in for playoffs (potentially only 4 games).

btw - this would only work if the injured player was a pending UFA player on a team outside of the playoffs - like for example Getzlaf or Palmieri or Hall.

EDIT: sorry - you're right; in my previous post i put 'back around TDL' but I meant start of playoffs.

- MaximusAurelius

Ya this what I was getting at. Timing and circumstances would have to work out perfectly, but maybe with the amount of injuries this year it might be more of a possibility.
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Not here to sell jerseys , ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Feb 12 @ 11:07 AM ET
i agree that's he suggestion, and I like it.
let's say leafs only have capspace at trade deadline to add a 2.5mln caphit player.
but there is a player with a 5mln caphit that is injured, and scheduled to come back 1st week of playoffs. it's an interesting option to look at imo -- only costing cash, but price will probably be very low considering the risk of the player only being able to come in for playoffs (potentially only 4 games).

btw - this would only work if the injured player was a pending UFA player on a team outside of the playoffs - like for example Getzlaf or Palmieri or Hall.

EDIT: sorry - you're right; in my previous post i put 'back around TDL' but I meant start of playoffs.

- MaximusAurelius



“Scheduled” to come back - nobody is going to trade for a player they hope is going to come back, that they hope has no lingering effects, that they hope can get not just into game shape but into playoff game shape right away and that they hope fits in without practice with the new team.

Missing anything? Oh, that they hope isn’t really dead.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Feb 12 @ 11:18 AM ET
I think injuries have affected the space.

but im no capspert
the Projected capspace column on CF, is that the number?

- senstroll

They can accumulate a lot in a short period of time. In the coming weeks, fingers crossed it’s only Simmonds on LTIR.

In just under a month I believe they can accumulate almost a million based off a complicated athletic article I read at the start of the season.

Also we have to remember players cap hits on other teams shrink as well. To my understating a Hall cap hit is really 4M by the TDL, not 8M.

Edit: TDL is 3 weeks left of the season...Halls cap hit would be like 2M. And if Buffalo could retain that to 1M. I am an amateur at this but I am fairly positive this is how it works. The Accruing space I am very lost in.
Barb34
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.29.2017

Feb 12 @ 11:18 AM ET


well the teams cant all lose if they play each other.

- Arctic_AARDVARK



I actually didn't think about it that way.
bryant
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.28.2011

Feb 12 @ 11:28 AM ET
“Scheduled” to come back - nobody is going to trade for a player they hope is going to come back, that they hope has no lingering effects, that they hope can get not just into game shape but into playoff game shape right away and that they hope fits in without practice with the new team.

Missing anything? Oh, that they hope isn’t really dead.

- Canada Cup

If the player is a ufa they team won’t be getting much for him anyways. Throw a late round pick and take your chances. An extra body in the playoffs is never a bad thing.
MaximusAurelius
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: #FireDubas
Joined: 04.23.2012

Feb 12 @ 11:29 AM ET
If the player is a ufa they team won’t be getting much for him anyways. Throw a late round pick and take your chances. An extra body in the playoffs is never a bad thing.
- bryant


you're right, but canadacup likes to go against anything i say is a good idea.
it's his second favorite thing apart from speaking poop out of his mouth re politics.
21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Feb 12 @ 11:31 AM ET
you're right, but canadacup likes to go against anything i say is a good idea.
it's his second favorite thing apart from speaking poop out of his mouth re politics.

- MaximusAurelius

Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Not here to sell jerseys , ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Feb 12 @ 11:42 AM ET
If the player is a ufa they team won’t be getting much for him anyways. Throw a late round pick and take your chances. An extra body in the playoffs is never a bad thing.
- bryant


If they have a need, try to find a way to get a living, moving body to fill the need.
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Not here to sell jerseys , ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Feb 12 @ 11:44 AM ET
you're right, but canadacup likes to go against anything i say is a good idea.
it's his second favorite thing apart from speaking poop out of his mouth re politics.

- MaximusAurelius


Key phrase was good idea, there Max. There are times when I agree with you and say so. There are more times when i don’t. But you have every right to continue to be wrong and I’m confident that you will exercise that right.
MaximusAurelius
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: #FireDubas
Joined: 04.23.2012

Feb 12 @ 11:59 AM ET
Key phrase was good idea, there Max. There are times when I agree with you and say so. There are more times when i don’t. But you have every right to continue to be wrong and I’m confident that you will exercise that right.
- Canada Cup


I just mentioned that Archaic's idea was a good one, for a few hypothetical cases.
It's only for a few players (pending UFAs, high cap hit good players, on teams that are outside of playoffs).

example:
Washington slumps, and Ovi gets injured 30th of March. Estimated to be back in 5-6 weeks, it's a 'standard' injury. (let's say a wrist injury).
somehow there is an interest from Wsh to deal Ovechkin.
in that hypothetical case, the idea isn't 'bad' -- Leafs might lose a small asset, and have to a chunk of cash (who cares?) for the possible scenario to be able to add Ovechkin to the team for this playoffs.

of course, Ovechkin-Washington scenario is even more unlikely -- but if it were to happen to Getzlaf or Hall, definitely a more plausible scenario.

you prefer to speak hours about your political views on here - but unwilling to have a chat about anything related to hockey (even if it's very unlikely to ever happen).

good luck with your trump/republican posts



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