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Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Feb 9 @ 2:36 PM ET
I really hope Rossi is right about the Pens plans for Matheson. I also hope the new regime reevaluates Sullivan.
TheGame316
Joined: 11.18.2008

Feb 9 @ 2:37 PM ET
I’m 100% down with these moves because we got nowhere to go but up and this makes things interesting
Reverend Killtaker
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Alexandria, VA
Joined: 07.02.2008

Feb 9 @ 2:38 PM ET
I really hope Rossi is right about the Pens plans for Matheson. I also hope the new regime reevaluates Sullivan.
- Rinosaur


I tend to think everything gets re-evaluated at this point.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Feb 9 @ 2:40 PM ET
So Brian Burke lmao.
PghPens668771
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 11.26.2013

Feb 9 @ 2:40 PM ET
My understanding is that Hextall's specialty is rebuilding through the draft. He won't be able to do that for a few years here, due to Rutherford trading away so many picks.

Whomever the Pens hire they will need to give the new GM a long "honeymoon period". The new GM's hands will be tied for a while, unless they are really good at scouting undrafted young players and really shrewd with UFA's.
Reverend Killtaker
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Alexandria, VA
Joined: 07.02.2008

Feb 9 @ 2:40 PM ET
Holy crap I just saw the picture the Pens posted on their FB announcement of Burke, and the dude looks like Steve Bannons older brother. Greasy hair and all!
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Feb 9 @ 2:42 PM ET
hahahahahahahahahaahahahahahah

Brian Burke is the head of hockey ops.

What a clown show.
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Feb 9 @ 2:43 PM ET
Just a guess, but Burke will likely kick that hack Morehouse out of hockey discussions. That’s a good thing.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Feb 9 @ 2:43 PM ET
I really hope Rossi is right about the Pens plans for Matheson. I also hope the new regime reevaluates Sullivan.
- Rinosaur


What did Rossi say?

Ive been away from here for a few days.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Feb 9 @ 2:45 PM ET
hahahahahahahahahaahahahahahah

Brian Burke is the head of hockey ops.

What a clown show.

- j.boyd919


Hextall is a good hire, Burke is a f'n joke of a hire.

"One Step Forward, Two Steps Back"

- Pittsburgh Penguins 2018-2021
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Feb 9 @ 2:45 PM ET
hahahahahahahahahaahahahahahah

Brian Burke is the head of hockey ops.

What a clown show.

- j.boyd919


Im happy about Hextall, but I’m reserving judgement on the Burke hiring in the respect that I don’t know he will be much different.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Feb 9 @ 2:46 PM ET
What did Rossi say?

Ive been away from here for a few days.

- MattStrat


Basically they will try to move him once he’s healthy. The emergence of POJ changes his fit.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Feb 9 @ 2:47 PM ET
Basically they will try to move him once he’s healthy. The emergence of POJ changes his fit.
- Rinosaur



Ok ok...that sounds nice....but that contract in Covid times is horrendous/hard to move
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Feb 9 @ 2:50 PM ET
Brian Burke president of hockey ops! With Hextall as GM!!!
- pens4life-66

Tell my why I should be excited about Burke. I really only know him for his Leafs tenure and that was not good.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Feb 9 @ 2:52 PM ET
Head of Hockey Ops is above the GM in personnel decisions right? Bad if so.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Feb 9 @ 2:52 PM ET
Head of Hockey Ops is above the GM in personnel decisions right? Bad if so.
- Victoro311



This is what I'm wondering...and agree, if so
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Feb 9 @ 2:53 PM ET
Tell my why I should be excited about Burke. I really only know him for his Leafs tenure and that was not good.
- Victoro311

He can help players learn how to spell intense.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Feb 9 @ 2:53 PM ET
This is what I'm wondering...and agree, if so
- MattStrat

Basketball wise it is. I don’t know of a team in the NHL that has a President of hockey ops apart from the GM so I don’t know HWT the power dynamic is here.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Feb 9 @ 2:55 PM ET
Head of Hockey Ops is above the GM in personnel decisions right? Bad if so.
- Victoro311


Yes it is, Hextall reports to Burke hahahaha
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Feb 9 @ 2:56 PM ET
Yes it is, Hextall reports to Burke hahahaha
- j.boyd919

Well this kills my good vibes over the Hextall hire.

Burke’s Steve Bannon looking ass is right up there with Chiarelli of guys I have no idea how they keep getting jobs.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Feb 9 @ 2:57 PM ET
Ok ok...that sounds nice....but that contract in Covid times is horrendous/hard to move
- MattStrat


I really don’t know how a trade like that works. Retention plus a prospect or pick? Taking a bad contract back?

This will be interesting to see if it does in fact happen.
Hockey66
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.05.2019

Feb 9 @ 3:01 PM ET
Tell my why I should be excited about Burke. I really only know him for his Leafs tenure and that was not good.
- Victoro311

Maybe he has some connections in the good ole' boy network? That's all I've got.

Not sure if it's relevant, but here is Burke's record regarding trades as GM:

Hartford 92-93
http://www.nhltradetracke...ist_by_GM/Brian_Burke/189

Vancouver 98-04
http://www.nhltradetracke...ist_by_GM/Brian_Burke/189

Anaheim 05-08
http://www.nhltradetracke...ist_by_GM/Brian_Burke/201

Toronto 08-13
http://www.nhltradetracke...list_by_GM/Brian_Burke/77

Calgary 13-14
http://www.nhltradetracke...ist_by_GM/Brian_Burke/272

Beatnic57
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 10.08.2019

Feb 9 @ 3:02 PM ET
I really don’t know how a trade like that works. Retention plus a prospect or pick? Taking a bad contract back?

This will be interesting to see if it does in fact happen.

- Rinosaur


I know that I am in the minority, but the Rags are having a hard time moving Deangelo... His contract has a shorter shelf life...
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Feb 9 @ 3:02 PM ET
Maybe he has some connections in the good ole' boy network? That's all I've got.

Not sure if it's relevant, but here is Burke's record regarding trades as GM:

Hartford 92-93
http://www.nhltradetracke...ist_by_GM/Brian_Burke/189

Vancouver 98-04
http://www.nhltradetracke...ist_by_GM/Brian_Burke/189

Anaheim 05-08
http://www.nhltradetracke...ist_by_GM/Brian_Burke/201

Toronto 08-13
http://www.nhltradetracke...list_by_GM/Brian_Burke/77

Calgary 13-14
http://www.nhltradetracke...ist_by_GM/Brian_Burke/272

- Hockey66

He was awful in Toronto. Like career ending bad there. I don’t like that I have to pull from pre-08 to find bright spots.
Hockey66
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.05.2019

Feb 9 @ 3:03 PM ET
And Hextall's record:

Philadelphia 2014-2018
http://www.nhltradetracke...ist_by_GM/Ron_Hextall/277
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