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Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Feb 7 @ 12:49 PM ET
Yeah lets trade Dermott so we have no depth and if we get a couple of injuries we have Marincin in top 4 again.
- jribout


He’s put up stats comparable to Muzz/Holl this year playing with Bogo. 🤷🏻‍♂️
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Feb 7 @ 12:49 PM ET
Yeah lets trade Dermott so we have no depth and if we get a couple of injuries we have Marincin in top 4 again.
- jribout

Lehtonen and Sandin are great 6 and 7 D men. Lil, marincin, Rosen are fine 8-10 D men.

If Leafs get unbelievably unlucky with D injuries...well the TDL is a month away.
mjones242
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pretentious Beer Snob, ON
Joined: 06.22.2015

Feb 7 @ 12:49 PM ET
Not sure about giving up Dermott for something we could probably replace from within. Regardless of some people’s eye test Dermott’s stats aren’t too bad.
- Garnie

Not sure if there's anyone in our system who brings what Bennett brings: size, truculence, and some experience.

Having said that, Dermott is pretty clearly behind Sandin and Lehtonen at this point. Why not trade him for a guy who could push Vesey, Petan, or Soup out of the lineup?
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Feb 7 @ 12:51 PM ET
D are a different breed, rather keep my d depth and plug and play my forwards with what we have.

If we’re going to lose him for nothing ( expansion ) and can make a good trade, sure.

- Garnie

I hear you.

But he is taking mins away from Sandin and Lehtonen. They both should be playing over Dermott...Dermott is 20 scratches away from becoming Lievo.

He has some value right now, now is the time to trade him instead of playing him behind Lehtonen and Sandin.
dmnted
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Space for Rent
Joined: 08.30.2006

Feb 7 @ 12:51 PM ET
Are the Avs games postponed this week?
- Garnie


I think they are back on the 15th but not 100% sure.
STL might be back on the 11th.

thing are fluid

edit: Found this

The New Jersey Devils won't play again until at least Tuesday, the Buffalo Sabres and Minnesota Wild are off until Thursday, while the Colorado Avalanche won't see action again until Feb. 14. The Vegas Golden Knights had four games postponed before returning to the ice Friday.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Feb 7 @ 12:52 PM ET
Not sure if there's anyone in our system who brings what Bennett brings: size, truculence, and some experience.

Having said that, Dermott is pretty clearly behind Sandin and Lehtonen at this point. Why not trade him for a guy who could push Vesey, Petan, or Soup out of the lineup?

- mjones242

I agree.

He is also a guy that can challenge Kerfoot for 3C...We have 0 players that can do that right now.
Leafsmart
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Fredericton, N.B.
Joined: 12.18.2013

Feb 7 @ 12:52 PM ET
Not sure about giving up Dermott for something we could probably replace from within. Regardless of some people’s eye test Dermott’s stats aren’t too bad.
- Garnie


That's why I would take some time to move him. He's still an RFA. Leafs in control here. And yes, he's behind Sandin as well, who I think is going to a top 4 D the minute he adds some beef to that frame. But Travis is an assett. And a heck of a lot better D than what I see on some teams lately.
dmnted
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Space for Rent
Joined: 08.30.2006

Feb 7 @ 12:53 PM ET
Caps retro jerseys are horrible.
- gergeswillems

I concur
mjones242
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pretentious Beer Snob, ON
Joined: 06.22.2015

Feb 7 @ 12:54 PM ET
He’s put up comparable to Muzz/Holl this year playing with Bogo. 🤷🏻‍♂️
- Garnie

He's put what up? I mean, they comparably breathe oxygen and wear skates.
dmnted
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Space for Rent
Joined: 08.30.2006

Feb 7 @ 12:54 PM ET
It looked so harmless too.
- Garnie


wasn't even trying block a shot too.

the puck just hit him

I know, just like door ways do the same to me.


Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Feb 7 @ 12:55 PM ET
That's why I would take some time to move him. He's still an RFA. Leafs in control here. And yes, he's behind Sandin as well, who I think is going to a top 4 D the minute he adds some beef to that frame. But Travis is an assett. And a heck of a lot better D than what I see on some teams lately.
- Leafsmart

Theres only a month left before he becomes Kraken bait and loses all his value.
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Feb 7 @ 12:55 PM ET
Anybody why Kuznetsov and Samsonov aren't back with the Caps?
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Feb 7 @ 12:55 PM ET
Not sure if there's anyone in our system who brings what Bennett brings: size, truculence, and some experience.

Having said that, Dermott is pretty clearly behind Sandin and Lehtonen at this point. Why not trade him for a guy who could push Vesey, Petan, or Soup out of the lineup?

- mjones242


Obviously by the coach he’s not clearly behind either guy?

I don’t know much about Bennet and I’m
Too lazy to go look at stats right now.
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Feb 7 @ 12:57 PM ET
He's put what up? I mean, they comparably breathe oxygen and wear skates.
- mjones242


I guess if we don’t use stats.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Feb 7 @ 12:57 PM ET
Whoever is keeping track of the shots in the Philly/Washington game is a moron. They've only counted around half of Washington's shots so far.

It's like they don't know that rebound shots counts as shots.

- GreatGigInTheSky

Excuse me?

Those are stats, which are then used to generate advanced stats, so you can't argue with them.

Perhaps you aren't intelligent enough to understand advanced stats?

Sincerely,

James Tanner
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Feb 7 @ 12:58 PM ET
wasn't even trying block a shot too.

the puck just hit him

I know, just like door ways do the same to me.

- dmnted


poor (frank)er, had a good start. Same thing happened to Ennis when he started with the Leafs.
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Not here to sell jerseys , ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Feb 7 @ 1:00 PM ET
A deal revolving around Virtanen and Dermott would be worth looking at.

(prefer Bennett though)

- mjones242


I’d rather stick needles in my eyes than have Virtanen on this team. C’mon
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Not here to sell jerseys , ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Feb 7 @ 1:01 PM ET
I (frank)en miss gambling and those redeye last minute trips to Vegas



- winsix


These two were so good together
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Feb 7 @ 1:01 PM ET
Anybody why Kuznetsov and Samsonov aren't back with the Caps?
- AdamFrench

Both Evgeny Kuznetsov and Ilya Samsonov are still in COVID protocal according to Washington coach Peter Laviolette.
That's 18 days and counting for both players although Laviolette stated that both are starting to work out again. But they have yet to skate so don't look for them to be in action before next weekend.

RELATED: Ilya Samsonov
SOURCE: Tom Gulitti on Twitter
Feb 7, 2021, 9:59 AM ET
mjones242
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pretentious Beer Snob, ON
Joined: 06.22.2015

Feb 7 @ 1:04 PM ET
Obviously by the coach he’s not clearly behind either guy?

I don’t know much about Bennet and I’m
Too lazy to go look at stats right now.

- Garnie

Well, after last night's game I can't imagine how Lehtonen isn't obviously ahead of Dermott right now.

Dermott has 0 points and has been largely invisible playing very safe minutes (not promising).

Lehtonen has been on the power play and has 3 pts in his 5 games and has been noticeably involved in plays whilst playing safe minutes (something he should be doing).

Sandin is ahead of Dermott in the long term because he's 20 years old and has a lot of potential to grow. The potential on Dermott's growth is pretty much nil.

Sandin likely hasn't seen any action because of cap and waiver reasons.

Per Bennett, it's Sunday - opening another browser tab and checking out Bennett's fancy stats with a beer in hand sounds about as exciting as it gets. Which is to say, I'm very, very bored.
winsix
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Feb 7 @ 1:04 PM ET
Not sure if there's anyone in our system who brings what Bennett brings: size, truculence, and some experience.

Having said that, Dermott is pretty clearly behind Sandin and Lehtonen at this point. Why not trade him for a guy who could push Vesey, Petan, or Soup out of the lineup?

- mjones242


Not that Dermott is a prize but Leafs need more not less depth at Defense IMO. I don't want to see Marincin again. There are other spare parts to trade for Bennett. He's not worth much - has never produced at the NHL level. The Nucks and Flames fans are fantasizing about the huge returns for Bennett and Virtanen. Leafs have several players earning below $1M that are superior to these busts. Let someone else overpay.
winsix
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Feb 7 @ 1:06 PM ET
These two were so good together
- Canada Cup


Agree - Parsons was a huge writing talent. The story about what his manager did after his death still makes me laugh.
mjones242
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pretentious Beer Snob, ON
Joined: 06.22.2015

Feb 7 @ 1:07 PM ET
I’d rather stick needles in my eyes than have Virtanen on this team. C’mon
- Canada Cup

He scored 18 goals last year in 69 games and actually plays with grit. C'mon.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Feb 7 @ 1:07 PM ET
Not that Dermott is a prize but Leafs need more not less depth at Defense IMO. I don't want to see Marincin again. There are other spare parts to trade for Bennett. He's not worth much - has never produced at the NHL level. The Nucks and Flames fans are fantasizing about the huge returns for Bennett and Virtanen. Leafs have several players earning below $1M that are superior to these busts. Let someone else overpay.
- winsix

I think Boyd, Spezza, ect are also benefiting from being on a really good team.

We see this happen a lot, especially TB over the years. They make depth players seem better than they are.

I do wonder Bennetts potential on this team, and I do value his ability to play C as there are 0 options after Kerfoot for 3c.
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Not here to sell jerseys , ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Feb 7 @ 1:08 PM ET
Well, after last night's game I can't imagine how Lehtonen isn't obviously ahead of Dermott right now.

Dermott has 0 points and has been largely invisible playing very safe minutes (not promising).

Lehtonen has been on the power play and has 3 pts in his 5 games and has been noticeably involved in plays whilst playing safe minutes (something he should be doing).

Sandin is ahead of Dermott in the long term because he's 20 years old and has a lot of potential to grow. The potential on Dermott's growth is pretty much nil.

Sandin likely hasn't seen any action because of cap and waiver reasons.

Per Bennett, it's Sunday - opening another browser tab and checking out Bennett's fancy stats with a beer in hand sounds about as exciting as it gets. Which is to say, I'm very, very bored.

- mjones242


I think you mis-defined potential. Sandin having the potential to grow doesn’t put him ahead of Dermott.
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