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Tfaehner
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.25.2012

Jan 31 @ 5:53 PM ET


Not that it's a new report but apparently Johny Hockey has quietly begun to tell organization, agent and those close to him that he's going to free agency. Prefers flyers and would take a home town discount but no guarantee. Wants to be closer to home and could end up with a rival it we dont pursue.
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Jan 31 @ 5:56 PM ET

Morin last night...not a perfect game in his limited under 6 minutes of ice time role but I think it was a good place to start. He showed his good skating, long reach, defensive stick and physicality. Anyone expecting zero mistakes after not playing for 15 months and very little the last few years and also switching positions from D to LW, is not realistic. People question the decision to switch positions or timing of playing should be with the AHL first, but I commend Sam for his work, attitude and effort. I still believe he can do this switch and maybe go back to D at some point. I hope for him to stay healthy.

Tonight, let’s see it TK! Is it too much to ask for a regulation win against the Islanders? Okay, 2 pts anyway!

Let’s go Flyers!

ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Jan 31 @ 5:59 PM ET
Social justice warriors.. its not worth talking about further. Stuff I don't need or want on this board.
- Tfaehner

For the longest time I though that had to do with Wall Street journal haha
Dkos
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gritty, PA
Joined: 01.15.2007

Jan 31 @ 6:01 PM ET
For the longest time I though that had to do with Wall Street journal haha
- ClaudeFather


My guess was single Jewish women. Ha ha
therabbi
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ann Arbor, MI
Joined: 10.14.2020

Jan 31 @ 6:08 PM ET
Yes, this is a really good point. The Flyers this year have moved to a 2-1-2 forecheck but I don't believe they have the players to pull this off successfully. Thus you are seeing what you saw last night, teams are able to gain speed in the neutral zone, dump the puck behind the Flyers D and then pinning them into their D-zone.
- jd250

Bingo.
And then the stretch passes going back the other way when we do have possession...
therabbi
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ann Arbor, MI
Joined: 10.14.2020

Jan 31 @ 6:13 PM ET
Apparently there have been many meltdowns and incidents with DeAngelo this season. Seems like the last straw was after he instigated an altercation after their last game where a "Bigger" NYR player retaliated.

Many suggest he lacks maturity. He's even been caught threatening fans on social media.

- xShoot4WarAmpsx

When do we hear he's entered the player substance abuse program?
login
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.21.2020

Jan 31 @ 6:13 PM ET
How you gonna clear the ~$5M AAV to fit him in?
- Tomahawk

Not advocating it; though if he clears waivers would you do Gus for the Italian and a 1st rd pick if the Rangers put that on the table?
Tfaehner
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.25.2012

Jan 31 @ 6:14 PM ET
Not advocating it; though if he clears waivers would you do Gus for the Italian and a 1st rd pick if the Rangers put that on the table?
- login


Still can't afford him and why would the rangers do that ? They can bury him in the ahl and let his contract expire. I can assure you nobody is trading us a first round pick plus a young defenseman for gus. Nobody.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Jan 31 @ 6:21 PM ET
Dont get me wrong. I’m happy Comcast wouldn’t be interested in him. Dont care about the Kate smith thing. Don’t know what sjw means.
- Dkos


Haha. Social justice warriors. I’m a bit of an old school fan and the way the Kate smith was handled bothers me but whatevs.
login
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.21.2020

Jan 31 @ 6:26 PM ET
Still can't afford him and why would the rangers do that ? They can bury him in the ahl and let his contract expire. I can assure you nobody is trading us a first round pick plus a young defenseman for gus. Nobody.
- Tfaehner

They do it to get out from under him completely; also helps their cap. I doubt they want him around i any way.

So would you do it?
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Jan 31 @ 6:28 PM ET
Still can't afford him and why would the rangers do that ? They can bury him in the ahl and let his contract expire. I can assure you nobody is trading us a first round pick plus a young defenseman for gus. Nobody.
- Tfaehner


I’m very interested in seeing how this plays out for the rangers. It’s an epic mess. Depends on what was done or said but you’d think they could terminate his contract for conduct. Was it verbal then kreider punched him? Ie assaulted him? There can be implications to that as well..

If no one takes a chance on him, then I guess yo bury the contract but the dead cap space is not good.
penguininnevada
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: member of the honor roll, assistant to the assistant manager of the movie theater
Joined: 09.01.2008

Jan 31 @ 6:29 PM ET
i like turtles
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jan 31 @ 6:32 PM ET
i like turtles
- penguininnevada



And it looks like you can actually spell it correctly! Good job ESL.
Tfaehner
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.25.2012

Jan 31 @ 6:36 PM ET
I’m very interested in seeing how this plays out for the rangers. It’s an epic mess. Depends on what was done or said but you’d think they could terminate his contract for conduct. Was it verbal then kreider punched him? Ie assaulted him? There can be implications to that as well..

If no one takes a chance on him, then I guess yo bury the contract but the dead cap space is not good.

- Hextall271


I really look at ottawa and the poop show that they are and they see a 25 year old offensive rhd and say regardless of problems lets take a chance on this kid. He doesn't even cost an asset.

If he clears you need to get him far away from the team. Taxi isn't enough if he fought one your team captains and best players. Either assign him to the ahl or make the case to the nhl to terminate the contract. A small part of me wants him to not be claimed just so I can see the rangers implode.
Tfaehner
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.25.2012

Jan 31 @ 6:41 PM ET
I’m very interested in seeing how this plays out for the rangers. It’s an epic mess. Depends on what was done or said but you’d think they could terminate his contract for conduct. Was it verbal then kreider punched him? Ie assaulted him? There can be implications to that as well..

If no one takes a chance on him, then I guess yo bury the contract but the dead cap space is not good.

- Hextall271


I also wonder if this kids the egomaniac people make him out to be if he doesn't agree to a mutual termination of a contract so he could sign somewhere else on a 1 year deal and earn a new contract. In that case I look hard at the penguins as a team who might go there. Panthers also.
Landsbergfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gävle, Sweden
Joined: 07.15.2014

Jan 31 @ 6:47 PM ET
DeAngelo Trump 2024!!!!
- MJL

Great orange Angel ticket 🤡
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Jan 31 @ 6:50 PM ET
My guess was single Jewish women. Ha ha
- Dkos

Lol at least yours was in sequence
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Jan 31 @ 6:52 PM ET
I really look at ottawa and the poop show that they are and they see a 25 year old offensive rhd and say regardless of problems lets take a chance on this kid. He doesn't even cost an asset.

If he clears you need to get him far away from the team. Taxi isn't enough if he fought one your team captains and best players. Either assign him to the ahl or make the case to the nhl to terminate the contract. A small part of me wants him to not be claimed just so I can see the rangers implode.

- Tfaehner


I despise the rangers, so I also want to see them implode. Whether it’s dead cap hit or the loss of a top 4 dman or both, it’s not ending well for them.
Striiker
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.09.2020

Jan 31 @ 6:55 PM ET
You really think this is an AV thing already?

I’m not trying to antagonize you. Serious question.

- Hesh_

If healthy, this roster is good enough to compete. We have high end skill, we have depth, we have experience, and we have youth who both contribute and also have untapped potential. And not just on paper, we've seen these players showcase their abilities on the ice, both this year and in the past. Holmgren and Hextall each screwed up a lot and they deserve criticism for it, but in the end they're also responsible for collecting a really good group of players.

Blaming this roster - outside of pointing out our glaring weakness on the bottom pair - or griping about totally normal/expected performance variations by our good players is just deflecting blame from the people who are really at fault for this current mess, which goes back to playoffs last year. We don't need trades or better leadership or better effort or toughness or any of that cliché nonsense. We just need to stop trying to fight with our hands tied behind our back.

As has been shown by multiple people, when we try to enter the offensive zone or exit the defensive zone with passes or possession, we're pretty damn good at it. But they're clearly being instructed to "play it safe" with dump ins/outs, which is just shooting us in the foot and heavily contributing to every other problem. Our lack of shots is due to a lack of puck possession and the lack of possession is due to willingly giving it up when we have it and going with a tactic that has a league-wide ~25% success rating. That fact that this isn't obvious is just insane to me.
Tfaehner
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.25.2012

Jan 31 @ 7:00 PM ET
If healthy, this roster is good enough to compete. We have high end skill, we have depth, we have experience, and we have youth who both contribute and also have untapped potential. And not just on paper, we've seen these players showcase their abilities on the ice, both this year and in the past. Holmgren and Hextall each screwed up a lot and they deserve criticism for it, but in the end they're also responsible for collecting a really good group of players.

Blaming this roster - outside of pointing out our glaring weakness on the bottom pair - or griping about totally normal/expected performance variations by our good players is just deflecting blame from the people who are really at fault for this current mess, which goes back to playoffs last year. We don't need trades or better leadership or better effort or toughness or any of that cliché nonsense. We just need to stop trying to fight with our hands tied behind our back.

As has been shown by multiple people, when we try to enter the offensive zone or exit the defensive zone with passes or possession, we're pretty damn good at it. But they're clearly being instructed to "play it safe" with dump ins/outs, which is just shooting us in the foot and heavily contributing to every other problem. Our lack of shots is due to a lack of puck possession and the lack of possession is due to willingly giving it up when we have it and going with a tactic that has a league-wide ~25% success rating. That fact that this isn't obvious is just insane to me.

- Striiker



Av pointed out some the issues like forwards heading up ice and not helping the defense with the forecheck. And some the issues with the neutral zone like cross ice passes. The inability to get into the dirty areas. Our coaching staff sees the issues. Theyre talking to the team about them. Its up to them to do it. A poor season this year means an interesting off season. For now I trust that we have a good team and one the best cumulative coaching staffs in the league plus good goaltending. This will work out.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Jan 31 @ 7:02 PM ET
Have the flyers feed. Yes!

Go taryn!
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Jan 31 @ 7:04 PM ET
Still can't afford him and why would the rangers do that ? They can bury him in the ahl and let his contract expire. I can assure you nobody is trading us a first round pick plus a young defenseman for gus. Nobody.
- Tfaehner


I wouldnt say nobody. You can never predict what Chiarelli would do lol
THE EVIL WITHIN
Location: NJ
Joined: 11.20.2017

Jan 31 @ 7:04 PM ET
Al better than
Fartnell! 💩
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Jan 31 @ 7:06 PM ET
Not advocating it; though if he clears waivers would you do Gus for the Italian and a 1st rd pick if the Rangers put that on the table?
- login


Rangers could potentially make a deal involving Gus and DeAngelo however the team including the pick would be us and NYR would need to retain the difference in cap hit.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 31 @ 7:07 PM ET


As has been shown by multiple people, when we try to enter the offensive zone or exit the defensive zone with passes or possession, we're pretty damn good at it. But they're clearly being instructed to "play it safe" with dump ins/outs, which is just shooting us in the foot and heavily contributing to every other problem. Our lack of shots is due to a lack of puck possession and the lack of possession is due to willingly giving it up when we have it and going with a tactic that has a league-wide ~25% success rating. That fact that this isn't obvious is just insane to me.

- Striiker


The team is not being instructed by the coaching staff to play it safe with dumps ins and outs. It is not a tactic by design. That is completely the wrong assessment on your part.
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