Obviously he did an excellent job at that time but everyone goes stale, no matter how good you are.
- 668710

Shero won a Cup and then ran the team into the ground. Should have been fired. Bylsma won a Cup and then let the locker room implode and overplayed plugs. Should have been fired before Shero. Sullivan won back to back Cups too and now definitely needs to be fired.

Sometimes the magic just leaves.

JR was the best GM in the Crosby era. I was never more frustrated with the team than I was when we lost to the rangers in 2014.

Anyone who wants to talk sh!t about JR should talk to one of the many fans out there who would trade any player in their history along with their left nut for a single cup. JR a brought us two back to back.

There is a very real possibility that the league never sees a back to back champion again.

JR is a legend.
- stackthepads

JR has such a weird legacy IMO. Obviously in 20+ years from now when people look back they will see he ushered in back-to-back cups and that's likely all that will be remembered.

JR giveth and JR taketh away. That's his legacy to me, but those two cup runs were some of greatest years to watch for this Penguins fan.

Josh Yohe
@JoshYohe_PGH
Brian Dumoulin is out “week to week.”

JR was the best GM in the Crosby era. I was never more frustrated with the team than I was when we lost to the rangers in 2014.

Anyone who wants to talk sh!t about JR should talk to one of the many fans out there who would trade any player in their history along with their left nut for a single cup. JR a brought us two back to back.

There is a very real possibility that the league never sees a back to back champion again.

JR is a legend.
- stackthepads

Sure is, I'll agree with that but he still effed the team in the a after his 2 cups. Do I care? Not really, because we got 2 cups and I'm for sure grateful for that, but I can see realize he screwed the pooch after that last cup.

Sure is, I'll agree with that but he still effed the team in the a after his 2 cups. Do I care? Not really, because we got 2 cups and I'm for sure grateful for that, but I can see realize he screwed the pooch after that last cup.
- j.boyd919

Exactly where I’m at. Glad he’s gone but I’ll remember him positively. Those first few years have some of my best memories in them

I don't trust the stat counters. The one game where Jboyd showed the stat that Geno had one giveaway was off. However at the end of the year it'll all even out, but it's way too early to use those stats.
- 668710

Oh yeah the stat counters at games are dog poop lol when I worked for the Lightning, I was talking to some of the NHL stat recorders and they are very "loose" with their recordings haha, especially the ones like hits, blocks, giveaway/takeaway, etc.

Oh yeah the stat counters at games are dog poop lol when I worked for the Lightning, I was talking to some of the NHL stat recorders and they are very "loose" with their recordings haha, especially the ones like hits, blocks, giveaway/takeaway, etc.
- j.boyd919

I actually was a stat counter for ND hockey as part of my student job in college. It’s also just (frank)ing impossible to be 100% accurate because the game moves so fast.

I actually was a stat counter for ND hockey as part of my student job in college. It’s also just (frank)ing impossible to be 100% accurate because the game moves so fast.
- Victoro311

Yep and that's definitely understandable.

[quote=Rinosaur]

What a f'n mess.

EDIT: about Dumo out, the state of the defense as a whole and now toss in GM gone hahaha....f'n mess

Sure is, I'll agree with that but he still effed the team in the a after his 2 cups. Do I care? Not really, because we got 2 cups and I'm for sure grateful for that, but I can see realize he screwed the pooch after that last cup.
- j.boyd919

100%

[quote=MattStrat]

This is going to a rough season.

I actually was a stat counter for ND hockey as part of my student job in college. It’s also just (frank)ing impossible to be 100% accurate because the game moves so fast.
- Victoro311

hahah thats pretty cool. Full season or just a game here and there?

The good news... Sounds like Marino is fine and will play tonight.

Wasn't there Sgt Honka in Stripes? Or maybe it was Hulka.



- chimpira

Errey occasionally brings up sgt hulka on a “big toe” save

hahah thats pretty cool. Full season or just a game here and there?
- MattStrat

I did pretty much every home game my junior and senior year. I was on assists which was probably the easiest one, although in net front scrums it could be quite the female dog. Did not envy my friend who was the caller who basically his job was to talk out the game saying what numbers were preforming hits, shots, etc... as it happened in real time so people in charge of the stats could right it all down.

This is going to be a rough season.
- Rinosaur

Already is, except for the standings.

This season was a crapshoot heading in and is now even more so. No idea whats going to happen. I said in the off season I thought that Sullivan would be fired by half way point and it would propel them upward when this happens...which was in part wishful thinking...

We'll see what happens...

Already is, except for the standings.

This season was a crapshoot heading in and is now even more so. No idea whats going to happen. I said in the off season I thought that Sullivan would be fired by half way point and it would propel them upward when this happens...which was in part wishful thinking...

We'll see what happens...
- MattStrat

At least no I jury update on Marino... yet.

The Hornqvist trade is more because of what they got back then anything. Some people, and I'm one, also care about the net front, but to others that was never a big deal. But almost everyone was ok with Hornqvist leaving in a bubble.

The thing I don't buy with a year too late is that I think with only 2 years on his deal you could have found a way to send him to Seattle, particularly if he has a halfway decent year like he is, rather than take back a bad contract.
- Tojo.

This is where I'm coming from, and I LOVE Horny. With Dumo, Petts, Riikola and POJ (who is obviously ready now), the very last thing this team needed was a LD. Yes, I thought we needed more scoring from the blue line, but it's not like Matheson is a huge point producer, anyway (although he does score a decent amount of goals).

And it's not like Matheson is just any LD. He is one with huge question marks about his play and one who makes a lot of money for a lot of years. That negatively impacts other positions on the team.

Owners should be hands off though. Active owners have lead to some of the worst ran teams across all leagues. I do think it’s totally in bounds for ownership to veto trades of your best players, especially when the GM has not had a very good recent sample of player evaluation. Trading Malkin should be a non-starter. If Letang is to be traded, I don’t want Rutherford to be the one in charge of doing so. Knowing him, he’d go for Rasmus Ristolanen or Aaron Ekblad.
- Victoro311

Bobby kraft is hands on...except he is hands off in other ways....

For those anticipating Yannick Webber's Penguins debut, you're gonna-have-ta wait!

https://www.pensburgh.com...o-injuries-jim-rutherford

For those anticipating Yannick Webber's Penguins debut, you're gonna-have-ta wait!

https://www.pensburgh.com...o-injuries-jim-rutherford
- Beatnic57

Oh no!

I did pretty much every home game my junior and senior year. I was on assists which was probably the easiest one, although in net front scrums it could be quite the female dog. Did not envy my friend who was the caller who basically his job was to talk out the game saying what numbers were preforming hits, shots, etc... as it happened in real time so people in charge of the stats could right it all down.
- Victoro311

hahah nice and yeah, I could see the front of net scums being hard to decipher when it goes in sometimes. Did anyone give you crap about missing an apple?

So you tracked apples...what else was ND tracking besides goals, apples and shots?

For those anticipating Yannick Webber's Penguins debut, you're gonna-have-ta wait!

https://www.pensburgh.com...o-injuries-jim-rutherford
- Beatnic57

So this is what I'd go with

PO- Letang
Cuuz-Marino
Ceci-Rud

Man, thats rough.

So this is what I'd go with

PO- Letang
Cuuz-Marino
Ceci-Rud

Man, thats rough.
- MattStrat

Except it's likely to be...

POJ/Letang
Marino/Ceci
Cuuz/Ruh

I could also see Sully trying this...

Marino/Letang
POJ/Ruh
Cuuz/Ceci

Shero won a Cup and then ran the team into the ground. Should have been fired. Bylsma won a Cup and then let the locker room implode and overplayed plugs. Should have been fired before Shero. Sullivan won back to back Cups too and now definitely needs to be fired.

Sometimes the magic just leaves.
- Victoro311

Yea that's just how it goes. Thank you guys for your service, you'll be remembered for winning and good luck with what lies ahead.