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JetFuel
Joined: 10.08.2019

Jan 25 @ 12:58 PM ET
if we only look at possession numbers against the other teams best lines 81-55-26 would never get to play

I have no problem lowry being fourth line center as long as Maurice completely changes how he runs 4 lines. which I don't see happening.

- Ross77


The problem with the 81-55-26 line is they're all wingers.
TheUltimateJet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 07.16.2013

Jan 25 @ 1:11 PM ET
The problem with the 81-55-26 line is they're all wingers.
- JetFuel



You are right! We should have done with Laine what Atlanta did with Little. They converted a right winger into a center. That surely would have solved our problems there.
Rexypoo
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

Jan 25 @ 1:30 PM ET
I would like to preface this by saying I still very much love Forbort, and he is not to blame for his only real weakness so far being exploited to perfection.

Paul Maurice is 100% responsible for this loss.

There is no excuse for running the 81-55-26 line against McDavid. None.
There is also no excuse for running Morrissey against Draisaitl, and Forbort again McDavid. You took your slowest defenceman and matched him against the fastest player in the NHL.
What. The. F*ck.

It would’ve worked so, so, so much better to put Morrissey and his skating against a smaller, faster McDavid, while Forbort takes on the bigger, but slower player in Drai. Just so glaringly obvious.
TheUltimateJet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 07.16.2013

Jan 25 @ 2:08 PM ET
I would like to preface this by saying I still very much love Forbort, and he is not to blame for his only real weakness so far being exploited to perfection.

Paul Maurice is 100% responsible for this loss.

There is no excuse for running the 81-55-26 line against McDavid. None.
There is also no excuse for running Morrissey against Draisaitl, and Forbort again McDavid. You took your slowest defenceman and matched him against the fastest player in the NHL.
What. The. F*ck.

It would’ve worked so, so, so much better to put Morrissey and his skating against a smaller, faster McDavid, while Forbort takes on the bigger, but slower player in Drai. Just so glaringly obvious.

- Rexypoo



Well I am hoping that with Dubois coming over that our coach starts rolling out 4 lines. Also this whole talk about Stastny moving to the wing is heavily bizarre because if that’s the case then what was the point of trading Laine?

Lines as I want as we go forward:

Harkins-Scheifele-Wheeler
Connor-Dubois-Vesalainen
Copp-Stastny-Ehlers
Perrault-Lowry-Appleton

Harkins is being underplayed, which is ludicrous in my opinion!
BWJumper
Location: MB
Joined: 01.26.2019

Jan 25 @ 2:14 PM ET
last night was all the evidence you need to split up 81-55-26 permanently!!! they are a 500 line, what I mean by that is we will be a 500 hockey team with them together. half the time their offence will shine and we will win, the other half their D will collapse and we will lose. this coach has proven incapable of making in game adjustments so lets just take that option away from him.

Stastny line has been so clearly our top line, you can not split them up

Thompson should not come back in when healthy!!!! don't do it Maurice

Wheeler will struggle all year with this compressed schedule, if Maurice doesn't realize this and make an effort to reduce his minutes it will cost us.

- Ross77


Agree with you on the Ehlers-Stastny-Copp line, keep them together for now. When PLD is available make him the 3C give him 15 mins and put him on PP1 and bump Stastny.

Also if they do that they should call up Perfetti and try him out with PLD for 5 games or however many he can play without burning a year off his contract.
Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

Jan 25 @ 3:10 PM ET
Well I am hoping that with Dubois coming over that our coach starts rolling out 4 lines. Also this whole talk about Stastny moving to the wing is heavily bizarre because if that’s the case then what was the point of trading Laine?

Lines as I want as we go forward:

Harkins-Scheifele-Wheeler
Connor-Dubois-Vesalainen
Copp-Stastny-Ehlers
Perrault-Lowry-Appleton

Harkins is being underplayed, which is ludicrous in my opinion!

- TheUltimateJet


lets try;
Lowry-Sheif-Wheels
Copp-Stastny-ehlers
Connor-Dubois-Harkins
Perreault-Gust-Apples

as for D pairs, just put Heinola in Damit!!

TheUltimateJet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 07.16.2013

Jan 25 @ 3:25 PM ET
lets try;
Lowry-Sheif-Wheels
Copp-Stastny-ehlers
Connor-Dubois-Harkins
Perreault-Gust-Apples

as for D pairs, just put Heinola in Damit!!

- Ross77


That’s a good line-up too.

Heinola can come in as long as it does not affect my main man, Logan Stanley!
bennythehat
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 03.23.2015

Jan 25 @ 5:12 PM ET
*shrug* Do it.
- Rexypoo


Let's wait for Laine to get there and then watch.
bennythehat
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 03.23.2015

Jan 25 @ 5:18 PM ET
Love the trade !

Getting a 3rd rounder for Roslovic was basically the market value, so it comes down to Laine for Dubois.

From a reliable source - Laine's dietary habits and conditioning were dreadful.

It will be nice to not have to listen to him whine about his linemates and usage. I hope he enjoys his high-end CBJ Linemates and Torts.






Nasty_Duck
Boston Bruins
Location: ON
Joined: 06.20.2012

Jan 25 @ 6:24 PM ET
Love the trade !

Getting a 3rd rounder for Roslovic was basically the market value, so it comes down to Laine for Dubois.

From a reliable source - Laine's dietary habits and conditioning were dreadful.

It will be nice to not have to listen to him whine about his linemates and usage. I hope he enjoys his high-end CBJ Linemates and Torts.

- bennythehat


From a reliable source?

Is that his second-cousin's butchers sister?

TheUltimateJet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 07.16.2013

Jan 25 @ 6:30 PM ET
From a reliable source?

Is that his second-cousin's butchers sister?


- Nasty_Duck


Aw Nasty_Duck, how come you have to be so nasty?
TheUltimateJet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 07.16.2013

Jan 25 @ 6:31 PM ET
Love the trade !

Getting a 3rd rounder for Roslovic was basically the market value, so it comes down to Laine for Dubois.

From a reliable source - Laine's dietary habits and conditioning were dreadful.

It will be nice to not have to listen to him whine about his linemates and usage. I hope he enjoys his high-end CBJ Linemates and Torts.

- bennythehat


I actually think that Roslovic could become his highest end line mate. Would not surprise me if they are paired up together.
JetFuel
Joined: 10.08.2019

Jan 25 @ 6:36 PM ET
You are right! We should have done with Laine what Atlanta did with Little. They converted a right winger into a center. That surely would have solved our problems there.
- TheUltimateJet


That has nothing to do with my comment, how'd that work out though?

What would solve the problem is Scheifele not dragging his a$s in the D zone.
TheUltimateJet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 07.16.2013

Jan 25 @ 6:52 PM ET
That has nothing to do with my comment, how'd that work out though?

What would solve the problem is Scheifele not dragging his a$s in the D zone.

- JetFuel

To your first point: it worked because Atlanta had no else and Little committed to changing his game. Not sure if you noticed that he never scored 30 goals ever again once he moved.

To your second point: Scheifele is human and this isn't a video game. Not his fault he's been overplayed by Maurice. His play drags due to the excessive ice time.
TheUltimateJet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 07.16.2013

Jan 25 @ 7:05 PM ET
One factor that no one is mentioning is the 5v5 comparison between Laine and Dubois.

Patrik Laine in his 5 years as a Jet scored 135 points 5v5. He essentially averaged 19 goals and 17 assists per season 5v5.

Pierre-Luc Dubois in his four years as a Blue Jacket scored 107 points 5v5. He averaged 16 goals and 20 assists per season 5v5. This on a weak offensive Blue Jackets team.

They both average 36 5v5 points.

Something to think about.....
Rexypoo
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

Jan 25 @ 7:31 PM ET
Let's wait for Laine to get there and then watch.
- bennythehat


This implies the possibility of them trying the line I suggested
Nasty_Duck
Boston Bruins
Location: ON
Joined: 06.20.2012

Jan 25 @ 10:11 PM ET
Aw Nasty_Duck, how come you have to be so nasty?
- TheUltimateJet


I gotta be me.


bennythehat
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 03.23.2015

Jan 26 @ 8:53 AM ET
This implies the possibility of them trying the line I suggested
- Rexypoo


I expect that sooner or later they will try that combo. It will be a season of trying to find the linemates that make Patti happy.
On the bright side for Patti, he is already in their Top 5 scoring forwards and he has only played 1 game this year. It won't be long before he takes over the CBJ team lead.
Rexypoo
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

Jan 26 @ 11:24 AM ET
You're basically making up a line that will never ever play together and saying it's a coaching mistake instead of just admitting your 100% wrong. Typical Rexy.

They are both RW and only RW...so let us all know Rexy how they can ever play together on a line when the only coaching mistake would be putting either one of them on LW.

- jetsnation


Laine played left wing at multiple points over the last 4 seasons
Rexypoo
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

Jan 26 @ 11:24 AM ET
Twitter. LOL.


He hasn't been a PPG player in any of his seasons. Over his 3 full seasons he was 0.53 PPG. That's not even close to elite. Those are Jake DeBrusk numbers and he's no more than a 2nd line winger.

- Nasty_Duck


Okay, but did you read? I’m guessing not
Rexypoo
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

Jan 26 @ 11:25 AM ET
Sure Pts don't tell the whole story.

But if you are talking elite you do need very good point totals or a Selke-like season defensively.

Patrice Bergeron is considered elite - his career PPG is not 1.0 but it's a very respectable 0.80. That alone would not make him elite - but combined with the Selkes he has won it does.

Bjorstrand may be a very good player, but to make the claim he's a linchpin to "one of the best lines in hockey" is just so premature it's silly.

- Nasty_Duck


Not really. If Bjorkstrand had the minutes and linemates Bergeron does, he would be out scoring him
Rexypoo
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

Jan 26 @ 11:27 AM ET
It was tried in Winnipeg several times with Laine and was a miserable failure each and every time. Playing off-wing in today's NHL is a very difficult task because it's extremely difficult to protect the puck or win battles along the boards. Only a really fast player can get away with it. Maybe Ehlers could . In the past Bure , Jagr ,Mogilny , and St. Louis. Laine doesn't have the speed of any of them.
- jetsnation


He was a LW for almost the entirety of his 1st season. Which was an overwhelming success
grahamzky
Location: MB
Joined: 09.01.2008

Jan 26 @ 11:48 AM ET
lets try;
Lowry-Sheif-Wheels
Copp-Stastny-ehlers
Connor-Dubois-Harkins
Perreault-Gust-Apples

as for D pairs, just put Heinola in Damit!!

- Ross77


My Jets line going forward once PLD plays:
Connor-Scheifele-Wheeler
Stastny-Dubois-Ehlers
Copp-Lowry-Appleton
Gustafsson-Harkins-Perreault

Either that or you go with Stasnty at 3rd line Centre - and Copp at 2nd line LW. A lot of good options but no way you break up Connor-Scheif-Wheeler. Set in stone or should be.

Loved the Harkins-Gustafsson combination last game. Actually thought their shifts inspired the rest of the lines. Fresher legs perhaps?

Defense? Right now good with the present combinations. Love Stanley's game on 3rd pairing, he's added that much needed grit. When Poolman returns, would take Beaulieu out, but he's a handy #7 man to have around.

Nice to have youngsters like Vesalainen, Perfetti and Heinola waiting in thew wings. I would think they might all be regulars next season.

Rexypoo
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

Jan 26 @ 2:43 PM ET
My Jets line going forward once PLD plays:
Connor-Scheifele-Wheeler
Stastny-Dubois-Ehlers
Copp-Lowry-Appleton
Gustafsson-Harkins-Perreault

Either that or you go with Stasnty at 3rd line Centre - and Copp at 2nd line LW. A lot of good options but no way you break up Connor-Scheif-Wheeler. Set in stone or should be.

Loved the Harkins-Gustafsson combination last game. Actually thought their shifts inspired the rest of the lines. Fresher legs perhaps?

Defense? Right now good with the present combinations. Love Stanley's game on 3rd pairing, he's added that much needed grit. When Poolman returns, would take Beaulieu out, but he's a handy #7 man to have around.

Nice to have youngsters like Vesalainen, Perfetti and Heinola waiting in thew wings. I would think they might all be regulars next season.

- grahamzky


Heinola might already be the best defenceman on the team. He should be playing right now.
TheUltimateJet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 07.16.2013

Jan 26 @ 2:44 PM ET
He was a LW for almost the entirety of his 1st season. Which was an overwhelming success
- Rexypoo



The interesting thing about this point is that the Jets only have three right handed shots as far as I counted in the offence now. We will mostly have left handed shots on the right wing so according to our buddy we are going to be screwed.
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