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MONSTERSofMETALZ
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Not in town, QC
Joined: 09.05.2006

Jan 23 @ 7:49 AM ET
That’s possible too Ehlers or Connor, but that would still mean the Jets have the edge talent wise in their offer...The Jets will have to move Laine sooner or later though he doesnt want to be there
- Karine Hains


All Laine wanted was to play with the best player, what if Dubois-Laine means a new relationship? And Laine MIGHT wanna stay there. Else he still could be swap in another deal later
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Service Temporarily Unavailable, QC
Joined: 08.10.2008

Jan 23 @ 7:50 AM ET
if Danault rejected 6 yrs at $5 then trade him and a prospect for PLD...take the deal..throw in a pick too.
- Hockey Pucker

of course he turned down 6x5M. why would he settle for less than Drouin?!?
halo63
Joined: 01.02.2015

Jan 23 @ 7:57 AM ET

If it’s impossible to resign Danault, getting Dubois (and keeping both Suzuki and Kotkaniemi)


I think that said it right there
Karine Hains
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Lévis, QC
Joined: 10.27.2018

Jan 23 @ 8:54 AM ET
of course he turned down 6x5M. why would he settle for less than Drouin?!?
- fidopro


Voilà, that’s the problem...now if someone managed to tell Danault that in this pandemic era, deals bigger than this are hard to come by he might change his mind...
birdie03
Columbus Blue Jackets
Joined: 07.01.2011

Jan 23 @ 8:59 AM ET
Sorry . . . If I'm Jarmo, No on Danault. As some commented here - we don't want a player intent on going UFA this summer. And based on what he turned down from Bergerin, we wouldn't be signing him. Your offer seemed more than fair for a player at his level.
On the other hand - Suzuki or Romanov (prefer Suzuki) has to be included + 2021 1st rnd (unprotected). You have 13 picks this year, and can afford to give up the 1st.
Dubois is 22 y.o - you have 3 more years of team control - he is an NHL proven 1C on most teams.
I know that in Montreal both Suzuki & Romanov are considered sacred, but . . . You have to give to get - not your cast-offs or prospects that are being passed by others.
Habsody
Montreal Canadiens
Location: 3-Rivières, QC
Joined: 12.16.2007

Jan 23 @ 9:04 AM ET
That’s possible too Ehlers or Connor, but that would still mean the Jets have the edge talent wise in their offer...The Jets will have to move Laine sooner or later though he doesnt want to be there
- Karine Hains


Connor for Dubois? Why would the Jets trade their best player? Ehlers ++ would be more plausible...
Habsody
Montreal Canadiens
Location: 3-Rivières, QC
Joined: 12.16.2007

Jan 23 @ 9:06 AM ET
Voilà, that’s the problem...now if someone managed to tell Danault that in this pandemic era, deals bigger than this are hard to come by he might change his mind...
- Karine Hains


Correct, there is no way Danault get that much money and term.
MONSTERSofMETALZ
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Not in town, QC
Joined: 09.05.2006

Jan 23 @ 9:07 AM ET
Connor for Dubois? Why would the Jets trade their best player? Ehlers ++ would be more plausible...
- Habsody


Cause he’s like 7.5m for 5-6years. Reducing cap, having a #1 C then have some spare money for D later on
apex123
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 06.23.2016

Jan 23 @ 9:08 AM ET
Sorry . . . If I'm Jarmo, No on Danault. As some commented here - we don't want a player intent on going UFA this summer. And based on what he turned down from Bergerin, we wouldn't be signing him. Your offer seemed more than fair for a player at his level.
On the other hand - Suzuki or Romanov (prefer Suzuki) has to be included + 2021 1st rnd (unprotected). You have 13 picks this year, and can afford to give up the 1st.
Dubois is 22 y.o - you have 3 more years of team control - he is an NHL proven 1C on most teams.
I know that in Montreal both Suzuki & Romanov are considered sacred, but . . . You have to give to get - not your cast-offs or prospects that are being passed by others.

- birdie03

We don't have to do poop because we have all the leverage in the world with Dubois wanting to get out and we're happy with our situation now. We won t be making any moves unless it makes sense for the Habs, not the Blue Jackets.
MONSTERSofMETALZ
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Not in town, QC
Joined: 09.05.2006

Jan 23 @ 9:08 AM ET
Sorry . . . If I'm Jarmo, No on Danault. As some commented here - we don't want a player intent on going UFA this summer. And based on what he turned down from Bergerin, we wouldn't be signing him. Your offer seemed more than fair for a player at his level.
On the other hand - Suzuki or Romanov (prefer Suzuki) has to be included + 2021 1st rnd (unprotected). You have 13 picks this year, and can afford to give up the 1st.
Dubois is 22 y.o - you have 3 more years of team control - he is an NHL proven 1C on most teams.
I know that in Montreal both Suzuki & Romanov are considered sacred, but . . . You have to give to get - not your cast-offs or prospects that are being passed by others.

- birdie03


What if every team offers aren’t that high? You take the beat deal. Suzuki won’t be trade, people has to stop thinking about that, the kid is way too good.

MONSTERSofMETALZ
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Not in town, QC
Joined: 09.05.2006

Jan 23 @ 9:09 AM ET
What if Drouin was joining Domi?
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Jan 23 @ 9:13 AM ET
Ok let’s be honest. There WONT be any trade between Laine and Dubois. Why would CLB grab a selfish player that want out of Winnipeg as well? He already stated signing an extension if he was traded west south (LA specially).

There’s no way there’s a swap between both, else CLB would be stupid. Laine under Torterella? Haha, No

- MONSTERSofMETALZ


I think this is the A+ answer.

I think we will see both Laine and Dubois moved in the same deal.

But, I don't think a direct deal is possible unless it a three way, most likely Anaheim or another team rich in prospect talent (NJ, Rangers, LA, Montreal or Ottawa.


Karine Hains
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Lévis, QC
Joined: 10.27.2018

Jan 23 @ 9:18 AM ET
What if Drouin was joining Domi?
- MONSTERSofMETALZ


I don’t think Drouin’s value is good enough right now to make that deal happen but who knows right? It’ll all speculation
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Jan 23 @ 9:19 AM ET
Roslovic is a centre and Laine is pure talent...that’s why i think that’s a hard offer to top
- Karine Hains


If Winnipeg is including both, I would imagine a defenseman is coming back to Winnipeg also.
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Jan 23 @ 9:22 AM ET
We don't have to do poop because we have all the leverage in the world with Dubois wanting to get out and we're happy with our situation now. We won t be making any moves unless it makes sense for the Habs, not the Blue Jackets.
- apex123


I agree, but like all trades it comes down to who is offering the most. Montreal looks like the best team in the North to me. I am not sure I would make a major change unless they can get away with offering up secondary pieces.
habs88888
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 12.28.2018

Jan 23 @ 9:25 AM ET
Well Dubois is only 22 lol. I wouldn’t move Suzuki at all but depending the salary swap I’d be up to move KK. I see him more of a winger then a center which isn’t the case for Dubois. But a line of Suzuki,Dubois,KK would be scary talent wise.
- MONSTERSofMETALZ


Then who will play centre on the other 3 lines ? Good thought but doesn’t work
Takemedrunkimhome
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 03.08.2018

Jan 23 @ 9:28 AM ET
We don't have to do poop because we have all the leverage in the world with Dubois wanting to get out and we're happy with our situation now. We won t be making any moves unless it makes sense for the Habs, not the Blue Jackets.
- apex123

I'm surprised people don't get this. Actually I'm not, internet hockey fans can be (frank)ing dumb
MONSTERSofMETALZ
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Not in town, QC
Joined: 09.05.2006

Jan 23 @ 9:30 AM ET
Then who will play centre on the other 3 lines ? Good thought but doesn’t work
- habs88888


I meant a center line. Sorry.

Suzuki
Dubois
Kotkaniemi.

Not all together 🤣
habs88888
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 12.28.2018

Jan 23 @ 9:34 AM ET
I meant a center line. Sorry.

Suzuki
Dubois
Kotkaniemi.

Not all together 🤣

- MONSTERSofMETALZ


That would make sense, I was thinking about that last night, I think Danault + Caufield is too much to give up so I wouldn’t do it
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Jan 23 @ 9:35 AM ET
I agree, but like all trades it comes down to who is offering the most. Montreal looks like the best team in the North to me. I am not sure I would make a major change unless they can get away with offering up secondary pieces.
- Aetherial


I don't think either Columbus or Winnipeg can afford to see any deal done without them being included. They both maintain strong leverage while they are talking with each other about a solution.

But, as others have said, Columbus does not really want Laine and Winnipeg already has one of the best #1 centres in the NHL. Jets need help on defense and if they get it they will be a contender.

This looks like the best opportunity we have ever seen for an NBA type trade with multiple teams being involved and multiple players changing teams.

There are also a few teams (eg. NJ) that are able to take back a salary dump and provide some cap relief for teams wanting to do a huge deal.
habfanforever
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 09.16.2005

Jan 23 @ 9:37 AM ET
Sorry . . . If I'm Jarmo, No on Danault. As some commented here - we don't want a player intent on going UFA this summer. And based on what he turned down from Bergerin, we wouldn't be signing him. Your offer seemed more than fair for a player at his level.
On the other hand - Suzuki or Romanov (prefer Suzuki) has to be included + 2021 1st rnd (unprotected). You have 13 picks this year, and can afford to give up the 1st.
Dubois is 22 y.o - you have 3 more years of team control - he is an NHL proven 1C on most teams.
I know that in Montreal both Suzuki & Romanov are considered sacred, but . . . You have to give to get - not your cast-offs or prospects that are being passed by others.

- birdie03

As I wrote in another post...Kekalainen: ''Hi Marc, we will gladly take Suzuki off your hands for Dubois because we are certain he will offer the same production. Also for the honor of relieving us of about 4.2 million in cap space, we require you kindly also include a first round pick...'' Production wise, Dubois and Suzuki can be comparables long term. 1 for 1 is a sideways move. To include ANYTHING else is asinine.
habs88888
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 12.28.2018

Jan 23 @ 9:47 AM ET
As I wrote in another post...Kekalainen: ''Hi Marc, we will gladly take Suzuki off your hands for Dubois because we are certain he will offer the same production. Also for the honor of relieving us of about 4.2 million in cap space, we require you kindly also include a first round pick...'' Production wise, Dubois and Suzuki can be comparables long term. 1 for 1 is a sideways move. To include ANYTHING else is asinine.
- habfanforever


I would not even do Suzuki for Dubois straight up
Karine Hains
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Lévis, QC
Joined: 10.27.2018

Jan 23 @ 9:49 AM ET
I would not even do Suzuki for Dubois straight up
- habs88888


With the way this team is gelling, we don’t need to bend over backwards to get Dubois, that’s why i’m saying the only way im ok with a deal for him is if a)it involves Danault and b)because we’re unable to retain him past this season...

It will be interesting to see how this plays out today for sure...
habfanforever
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 09.16.2005

Jan 23 @ 9:49 AM ET
I would not even do Suzuki for Dubois straight up
- habs88888
Neither would I
JiggsDinner
Montreal Canadiens
Location: st. johns, NF
Joined: 08.27.2010

Jan 23 @ 9:50 AM ET
Completely out to lunch. Hahahahaha do you even have tsn?
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