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Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jan 22 @ 10:18 AM ET
Or til Saturday. Hit was not vicious but was a head first contact.
- K-man25


Contact to the head and blindside hit.

I won't dare guess how long the suspension will be but it's almost certain he's not playing on Saturday.

Which might be for the best for things not to escalate.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Jan 22 @ 10:29 AM ET
Fair warning vent here and probably not saying anything that hasn't already been said in the 30+ pages but ...

I really don't get the direction this off-season. Holtby + Schmidt = 10.3 million vs. Markstrom + Tanev = 10.5 million.

Markstrom is a guy you spent years developing, was there through the down years ... he's peaking at a time when the team is on upswing, he's exactly where you want your goalie to be. But they go Demko, and I tried to get onboard understanding going to lose him if you sign Markstrom in expansion. But here's the thing, no guarantee you lose him. 31 other teams. Maybe Seattle like another goalie more. Are they going to evaluate half a playoff series from 2020 and that's it? Demko may end up being awesome, I hope he is. But if I'm gambling, I'm taking Markstrom based on proven even if I lose Demko. DiPietro in the wings could be backup and/or sign or trade for a million dollar backup like an Aaron Dell or Alex Stalock type. Now we're left with Lou's 3 million cap hit where the saving grace was at least we got our long term starter out of that, which we had for the down years and dropped for the (hopefully) better years to come after all the development.

Then Tanev = heart and soul. That guy did everything, and I just don't think it looks good to let a guy like that go. That gap toothed OT winner picture could have been plastered all over the building and promos and that's the kind of winning attitude that breeds winning. They say he'll start trending down. OK if it's all about stats then why Holtby ... writing on the wall statistically there year over year over year. Both Tanev and Marky groomed our young guys through tough times and i just think that gets undervalued team chemistry wise.

Toffoli I know seems like a captain obvious now but I was so mad at that one at the time. Just a chemistry thing - when you find something that clicks so well you find a way to hold on to if possible ... and it was possible.

They could have kept 2/3. They chose 0/3 and to re-tool when things were looking good I just don't get. I would have taken any 2/3 combo of Marky, Tanev, Toffoli over Schmidt + Holtby. And I like Schmidt ... I found myself saying wow who's that guy in games vs. Vegas. But we already have his style and it's Hughes, and Hughes is already way ahead of him.

- Sayros


lol that's exactly it...Marky and Tanev left for term and an extra 500K. Team put alot into those two and they couldn't take a 500K 'hometown discount' to stay with the club...they can go fu*ck themselves in Calgary. You'll see how those contracts will turn out there lol

Tanev was never healthy here so why? Toffoli played 14 games as a Nuck. So he's a great fit? He scores in B2B games vs Van and now we should have signed him come on man.

Could we have sold high on Demko after the Vegas round? probably but decisions had to be made. Marky wasn't giving the club that gave him his second chance a break so he can f*Uck off.

So the D is hurt? So what. Tanev and Edler off this roster is exactly what this club needs moving forward and if we have to lose a few games so be it. There are options.

Good news is that Sutter is on pace for 9-10 goals.




Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jan 22 @ 10:30 AM ET
Fair warning vent here and probably not saying anything that hasn't already been said in the 30+ pages but ...

I really don't get the direction this off-season. Holtby + Schmidt = 10.3 million vs. Markstrom + Tanev = 10.5 million.

Markstrom is a guy you spent years developing, was there through the down years ... he's peaking at a time when the team is on upswing, he's exactly where you want your goalie to be. But they go Demko, and I tried to get onboard understanding going to lose him if you sign Markstrom in expansion. But here's the thing, no guarantee you lose him. 31 other teams. Maybe Seattle like another goalie more. Are they going to evaluate half a playoff series from 2020 and that's it? Demko may end up being awesome, I hope he is. But if I'm gambling, I'm taking Markstrom based on proven even if I lose Demko. DiPietro in the wings could be backup and/or sign or trade for a million dollar backup like an Aaron Dell or Alex Stalock type. Now we're left with Lou's 3 million cap hit where the saving grace was at least we got our long term starter out of that, which we had for the down years and dropped for the (hopefully) better years to come after all the development.

Then Tanev = heart and soul. That guy did everything, and I just don't think it looks good to let a guy like that go. That gap toothed OT winner picture could have been plastered all over the building and promos and that's the kind of winning attitude that breeds winning. They say he'll start trending down. OK if it's all about stats then why Holtby ... writing on the wall statistically there year over year over year. Both Tanev and Marky groomed our young guys through tough times and i just think that gets undervalued team chemistry wise.

Toffoli I know seems like a captain obvious now but I was so mad at that one at the time. Just a chemistry thing - when you find something that clicks so well you find a way to hold on to if possible ... and it was possible.

They could have kept 2/3. They chose 0/3 and to re-tool when things were looking good I just don't get. I would have taken any 2/3 combo of Marky, Tanev, Toffoli over Schmidt + Holtby. And I like Schmidt ... I found myself saying wow who's that guy in games vs. Vegas. But we already have his style and it's Hughes, and Hughes is already way ahead of him.

- Sayros

Another Benning fan.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Jan 22 @ 10:31 AM ET
Fire Ian Clark!
- K-man25

Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jan 22 @ 10:32 AM ET
They are both just voicing their frustrations which is fair. The Canucks have embarrassed their fans. The Canucks decisions this off-season were correct regardless of the results. Benning (frank)ed up a bunch of signings and as a result they may need to step back for a season
- CanuckDon

This.
Decent post.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Jan 22 @ 10:33 AM ET
The Hockey Gods finally giving the Vancouver fans the team they deserve. You can't make this any funnier.


- VANTEL

We have more 'fans' in here that actually want the club to lose than all the threads combined...

LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Jan 22 @ 10:34 AM ET
Contact to the head and blindside hit.

I won't dare guess how long the suspension will be but it's almost certain he's not playing on Saturday.

Which might be for the best for things not to escalate.

- Scabeh

clean hit.

Consider us even for when Kotkaneimi tried to take out Pettersson.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Jan 22 @ 10:35 AM ET
Can Beagle or Sutter play defense
- A_SteamingLombardi

LE
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jan 22 @ 10:37 AM ET
Well, at least they don't have to play Montreal again until... *checks schedule*.. tomorrow?!

Seriously though, silver lining of this year could be a GM and coach change. I think it's time Aqua does the right thing.

- NewYorkNuck

LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Jan 22 @ 10:37 AM ET
OJ + LE for Dubois?
- Retinalz

What would it actually take to pry Dubois out of CLB?
WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

Jan 22 @ 10:39 AM ET
Can Beagle or Sutter play defense
- A_SteamingLombardi

How much worse of a defensive liability does Beagle need to be before getting benched?

It also looks to me like Sutter will retire after this season, he's got nothing left
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Jan 22 @ 10:41 AM ET
What would it actually take to pry Dubois out of CLB?
- LordHumungous

I meant EP and LE.
WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

Jan 22 @ 10:42 AM ET
Contact to the head and blindside hit.

I won't dare guess how long the suspension will be but it's almost certain he's not playing on Saturday.

Which might be for the best for things not to escalate.

- Scabeh

I'm guessing a game. It wasn't the worst we've seen but coming from the blindside and unsuspecting will be the explanation
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Jan 22 @ 10:42 AM ET
This.
Decent post.

- Marwood


This team is feeling very Colorado Avalanche-y. One good season, then a step back, then turning things around with an influx of draft picks and a good GM.

MacKinnon was drafted in 2013, Landeskog in 2011. It's been a long time for their stars to and team to come together.

Just need to ship out JB and Green.
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Jan 22 @ 10:44 AM ET
What would it actually take to pry Dubois out of CLB?
- LordHumungous


Would probably start with Horvat.

Have been reading about it, and CBJ have good goalies, D, and wingers, but they suck at center. Whoever is trading with them, they need to get a high end NHL center back. Canucks are not good trading partners.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jan 22 @ 10:44 AM ET
How much worse of a defensive liability does Beagle need to be before getting benched?

It also looks to me like Sutter will retire after this season, he's got nothing left

- WhiteLie

But he does the little things and he's good in the room.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Clit Whisperer
Joined: 10.22.2011

Jan 22 @ 10:46 AM ET
The Hockey Gods finally giving the Vancouver fans the team they deserve. You can't make this any funnier.


- VANTEL


#draftlotto
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jan 22 @ 10:48 AM ET
This team is feeling very Colorado Avalanche-y. One good season, then a step back, then turning things around with an influx of draft picks and a good GM.

MacKinnon was drafted in 2013, Landeskog in 2011. It's been a long time for their stars to and team to come together.

Just need to ship out JB and Green.

- NewYorkNuck



*requests praying emoji*
RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund
Joined: 04.18.2010

Jan 22 @ 10:48 AM ET
This team is feeling very Colorado Avalanche-y. One good season, then a step back, then turning things around with an influx of draft picks and a good GM.

MacKinnon was drafted in 2013, Landeskog in 2011. It's been a long time for their stars to and team to come together.

Just need to ship out JB and Green.

- NewYorkNuck

Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jan 22 @ 10:49 AM ET
clean hit.
- LordHumungous


In 1997. Sure.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Clit Whisperer
Joined: 10.22.2011

Jan 22 @ 10:51 AM ET
But he does the little things and he's good in the room.
- Marwood


Don’t forget the AO hug. That means something!
WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

Jan 22 @ 10:53 AM ET
This team is feeling very Colorado Avalanche-y. One good season, then a step back, then turning things around with an influx of draft picks and a good GM.

MacKinnon was drafted in 2013, Landeskog in 2011. It's been a long time for their stars to and team to come together.

Just need to ship out JB and Green.

- NewYorkNuck


I certainly hope thats the case, however the last season and 6 games has given me more of a Florida Panthers vibe. They did have an awful GM and coaches, so it might be the fork in the road to make decisions on those two positions here in Van towards an Avalanche-like future
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Jan 22 @ 10:56 AM ET
In 1997. Sure.
- Scabeh

Consider us even for when Kotkaneimi tried to take out Pettersson.
WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

Jan 22 @ 10:57 AM ET
But he does the little things and he's good in the room.
- Marwood

I know some stats lack proper context, but he's just be dreadful. Of all goals against, he's been on the ice for like 40% of them. He's also below 50% on faceoffs, his apparent specialty... and in particular 32% on Shorthanded faceoffs. Its no wonder the PK is at the bottom of the league
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Jan 22 @ 10:57 AM ET
But he does the little things and he's good in the room.
- Marwood

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