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NuckUp
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cap Busters
Joined: 07.01.2019

Jan 22 @ 12:53 AM ET
Green in presser blamed it on gift wraps and top players poor team play. See manvan I know more about hockey then you
Load Management
Season Ticket Holder
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Billings Spit, BC
Joined: 09.22.2019

Jan 22 @ 12:53 AM ET
His head was the principal point of contact, id be shocked if he isn’t suspended.
- neem55


If the head was the principal point of contact he'd have been eating his visor or his helmet would have been in the 5th row. It barely moved. He'll probably get something, but Armia is back next game.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jan 22 @ 1:06 AM ET
Can Beagle or Sutter play defense
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jan 22 @ 1:07 AM ET
Can Beagle or Sutter play defense
- A_SteamingLombardi

Try JV lol
Sayros
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canada, AB
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jan 22 @ 1:34 AM ET
Fair warning vent here and probably not saying anything that hasn't already been said in the 30+ pages but ...

I really don't get the direction this off-season. Holtby + Schmidt = 10.3 million vs. Markstrom + Tanev = 10.5 million.

Markstrom is a guy you spent years developing, was there through the down years ... he's peaking at a time when the team is on upswing, he's exactly where you want your goalie to be. But they go Demko, and I tried to get onboard understanding going to lose him if you sign Markstrom in expansion. But here's the thing, no guarantee you lose him. 31 other teams. Maybe Seattle like another goalie more. Are they going to evaluate half a playoff series from 2020 and that's it? Demko may end up being awesome, I hope he is. But if I'm gambling, I'm taking Markstrom based on proven even if I lose Demko. DiPietro in the wings could be backup and/or sign or trade for a million dollar backup like an Aaron Dell or Alex Stalock type. Now we're left with Lou's 3 million cap hit where the saving grace was at least we got our long term starter out of that, which we had for the down years and dropped for the (hopefully) better years to come after all the development.

Then Tanev = heart and soul. That guy did everything, and I just don't think it looks good to let a guy like that go. That gap toothed OT winner picture could have been plastered all over the building and promos and that's the kind of winning attitude that breeds winning. They say he'll start trending down. OK if it's all about stats then why Holtby ... writing on the wall statistically there year over year over year. Both Tanev and Marky groomed our young guys through tough times and i just think that gets undervalued team chemistry wise.

Toffoli I know seems like a captain obvious now but I was so mad at that one at the time. Just a chemistry thing - when you find something that clicks so well you find a way to hold on to if possible ... and it was possible.

They could have kept 2/3. They chose 0/3 and to re-tool when things were looking good I just don't get. I would have taken any 2/3 combo of Marky, Tanev, Toffoli over Schmidt + Holtby. And I like Schmidt ... I found myself saying wow who's that guy in games vs. Vegas. But we already have his style and it's Hughes, and Hughes is already way ahead of him.






CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jan 22 @ 1:36 AM ET
Fair warning vent here and probably not saying anything that hasn't already been said in the 30+ pages but ...

I really don't get the direction this off-season. Holtby + Schmidt = 10.3 million vs. Markstrom + Tanev = 10.5 million.

Markstrom is a guy you spent years developing, was there through the down years ... he's peaking at a time when the team is on upswing, he's exactly where you want your goalie to be. But they go Demko, and I tried to get onboard understanding going to lose him if you sign Markstrom in expansion. But here's the thing, no guarantee you lose him. 31 other teams. Maybe Seattle like another goalie more. Are they going to evaluate half a playoff series from 2020 and that's it? Demko may end up being awesome, I hope he is. But if I'm gambling, I'm taking Markstrom based on proven even if I lose Demko. DiPietro in the wings could be backup and/or sign or trade for a million dollar backup like an Aaron Dell or Alex Stalock type. Now we're left with Lou's 3 million cap hit where the saving grace was at least we got our long term starter out of that, which we had for the down years and dropped for the (hopefully) better years to come after all the development.

Then Tanev = heart and soul. That guy did everything, and I just don't think it looks good to let a guy like that go. That gap toothed OT winner picture could have been plastered all over the building and promos and that's the kind of winning attitude that breeds winning. They say he'll start trending down. OK if it's all about stats then why Holtby ... writing on the wall statistically there year over year over year. Both Tanev and Marky groomed our young guys through tough times and i just think that gets undervalued team chemistry wise.

Toffoli I know seems like a captain obvious now but I was so mad at that one at the time. Just a chemistry thing - when you find something that clicks so well you find a way to hold on to if possible ... and it was possible.

They could have kept 2/3. They chose 0/3 and to re-tool when things were looking good I just don't get. I would have taken any 2/3 combo of Marky, Tanev, Toffoli over Schmidt + Holtby. And I like Schmidt ... I found myself saying wow who's that guy in games vs. Vegas. But we already have his style and it's Hughes, and Hughes is already way ahead of him.

- Sayros

You lost me after your second paragraph
WelfareWerewolf
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vernon, BC
Joined: 10.08.2015

Jan 22 @ 1:57 AM ET

NuckUp
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cap Busters
Joined: 07.01.2019

Jan 22 @ 2:01 AM ET
Fair warning vent here and probably not saying anything that hasn't already been said in the 30+ pages but ...

I really don't get the direction this off-season. Holtby + Schmidt = 10.3 million vs. Markstrom + Tanev = 10.5 million.

Markstrom is a guy you spent years developing, was there through the down years ... he's peaking at a time when the team is on upswing, he's exactly where you want your goalie to be. But they go Demko, and I tried to get onboard understanding going to lose him if you sign Markstrom in expansion. But here's the thing, no guarantee you lose him. 31 other teams. Maybe Seattle like another goalie more. Are they going to evaluate half a playoff series from 2020 and that's it? Demko may end up being awesome, I hope he is. But if I'm gambling, I'm taking Markstrom based on proven even if I lose Demko. DiPietro in the wings could be backup and/or sign or trade for a million dollar backup like an Aaron Dell or Alex Stalock type. Now we're left with Lou's 3 million cap hit where the saving grace was at least we got our long term starter out of that, which we had for the down years and dropped for the (hopefully) better years to come after all the development.

Then Tanev = heart and soul. That guy did everything, and I just don't think it looks good to let a guy like that go. That gap toothed OT winner picture could have been plastered all over the building and promos and that's the kind of winning attitude that breeds winning. They say he'll start trending down. OK if it's all about stats then why Holtby ... writing on the wall statistically there year over year over year. Both Tanev and Marky groomed our young guys through tough times and i just think that gets undervalued team chemistry wise.

Toffoli I know seems like a captain obvious now but I was so mad at that one at the time. Just a chemistry thing - when you find something that clicks so well you find a way to hold on to if possible ... and it was possible.

They could have kept 2/3. They chose 0/3 and to re-tool when things were looking good I just don't get. I would have taken any 2/3 combo of Marky, Tanev, Toffoli over Schmidt + Holtby. And I like Schmidt ... I found myself saying wow who's that guy in games vs. Vegas. But we already have his style and it's Hughes, and Hughes is already way ahead of him.

- Sayros


Uhm are you trying to troll like that Nucker guy? Serious question.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jan 22 @ 2:47 AM ET
Uhm are you trying to troll like that Nucker guy? Serious question.
- NuckUp

They are both just voicing their frustrations which is fair. The Canucks have embarrassed their fans. The Canucks decisions this off-season were correct regardless of the results. Benning (frank)ed up a bunch of signings and as a result they may need to step back for a season
NuckUp
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cap Busters
Joined: 07.01.2019

Jan 22 @ 3:29 AM ET
They are both just voicing their frustrations which is fair. The Canucks have embarrassed their fans. The Canucks decisions this off-season were correct regardless of the results. Benning (frank)ed up a bunch of signings and as a result they may need to step back for a season
- CanuckDon


Fair enough to be frustrated by the results but the cause is misdirected.

Regardless of the bad signings. Plus the NHL world changing where JB couldn't buy himself more time. Having Marky, Tanev and TT in a game like this the same results would happen.

Its not about lack of talent in a step back but the talent lacking in their play.

Can't even blame coaching they don't tell you to gift the puck over. Its just a calamity of circumstances. I'm looking for patterns and so far it seems team cohesion is not clicking. Players are making gaffs they normally wouldn't.



neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Jan 22 @ 4:00 AM ET
Fair enough to be frustrated by the results but the cause is misdirected.

Regardless of the bad signings. Plus the NHL world changing where JB couldn't buy himself more time. Having Marky, Tanev and TT in a game like this the same results would happen.

Its not about lack of talent in a step back but the talent lacking in their play.

Can't even blame coaching they don't tell you to gift the puck over. Its just a calamity of circumstances. I'm looking for patterns and so far it seems team cohesion is not clicking. Players are making gaffs they normally wouldn't.

- NuckUp


Disagree. I like Schmidt, but Tanev was the perfect partner for Hughes. Marky is also a difference maker, kept games like that closer. I think it’s just going to growing oains until they find the right partner for Hughes.
NuckUp
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cap Busters
Joined: 07.01.2019

Jan 22 @ 4:08 AM ET
Disagree. I like Schmidt, but Tanev was the perfect partner for Hughes. Marky is also a difference maker, kept games like that closer. I think it’s just going to growing oains until they find the right partner for Hughes.
- neem55


Well QH's partner in this game was injured. So my point on Tanev still stands.

On Marky which one of the many break-aways and gaffes would he have stopped?
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Jan 22 @ 4:14 AM ET
If the head was the principal point of contact he'd have been eating his visor or his helmet would have been in the 5th row. It barely moved. He'll probably get something, but Armia is back next game.
- Load Management

Watch it again, you’re out of your mind if you don’t think that’s a headshot.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Jan 22 @ 4:15 AM ET
Well QH's partner in this game was injured. So my point on Tanev still stands.

On Marky which one of the many break-aways and gaffes would he have stopped?

- NuckUp

Why, has he been playing well defensively all year?!
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Jan 22 @ 4:31 AM ET
How are our Norris and Calder candidates doing?
K-man25
Calgary Flames
Location: Sayulita
Joined: 09.02.2014

Jan 22 @ 4:45 AM ET
Why, has he been playing well defensively all year?!
- neem55



Fire Ian Clark!
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Jan 22 @ 4:51 AM ET
Well, pre-season i done, let's see how the young players blend in with our super duper stars.


VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 22 @ 7:54 AM ET
The Hockey Gods finally giving the Vancouver fans the team they deserve. You can't make this any funnier.

NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Jan 22 @ 8:58 AM ET
Well, at least they don't have to play Montreal again until... *checks schedule*.. tomorrow?!

Seriously though, silver lining of this year could be a GM and coach change. I think it's time Aqua does the right thing.
DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC
Joined: 07.28.2006

Jan 22 @ 9:20 AM ET
If the head was the principal point of contact he'd have been eating his visor or his helmet would have been in the 5th row. It barely moved. He'll probably get something, but Armia is back next game.
- Load Management


didn't see the hit but Armia has been ruled out indefinitely
K-man25
Calgary Flames
Location: Sayulita
Joined: 09.02.2014

Jan 22 @ 9:28 AM ET
didn't see the hit but Armia has been ruled out indefinitely
- DoubleDown

Or til Saturday. Hit was not vicious but was a head first contact.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jan 22 @ 9:29 AM ET
I’m guessing two games for Myse.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jan 22 @ 9:33 AM ET
How are our Norris and Calder candidates doing?
- Reubenkincade


That’s a question for Lefty, Canucks Superfan.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jan 22 @ 9:37 AM ET
Or til Saturday. Hit was not vicious but was a head first contact.
- K-man25


It’s not Myers fault he’s tall and can’t hit a guy shoulder to shoulder. What’s he supposed to do, crouch down when hitting someone?



Winky face
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Jan 22 @ 10:12 AM ET
Isn’t OJ now one of the top 4D
Edler -out
Hamonic - out
Myers - likely a suspension
Chatfield - out (not sure how long)

Hughes, Schmidt, OJ...Benn? Rafferty? Emergency recall Brisebois?

- SlightlyOffside

Sorry, I meant EP
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