That "report" is BS. Zucker has been the only one skating on that line. Rust is the guy who looks out of shape. He's gassed after 15 seconds. Malkin at 35 will probably need another week or so to get his legs moving. Zucker has been doing what he can with two dragging linemates IMO.
- madmike71

I completely agree with you.

I wasn't sure what that report meant. Was Rutherford mad because he said it and it got out, or never said it and was mad it was reported? Or is it all made up?

I can't remember who wrote this, but it sounds like Roslovic might get 2nd. We still have one of those.

Dreger says the Pens are looking for a dman.
- madmike71

2nd sounds like too much. Like they're fishing for a 2nd but he should net a 3rd.

But GMJR payed that premium on Kapanen so he might just do that.

Ruth has called Rust out before...
- 668710

Yeah. It was widely acknowledged Rutherford was taking a shot at Rust talking about Cup winners that had lost their edge.

Maybe just my opinion, but I think the effort part of Rust's game didn't completely return last year. Didn't think he was as hard along the boards or in front of the net. But he was scoring a bunch of goals and I thought that more than made up for it.

So slow start could I see GMJR do this. Maybe, depends on if he feels Hagelin was a mistake to learn from.

Is it a good idea? I wouldn't personally, but you can certainly make the old argument his value will never be higher after the year he just had so Rust could net an outsized return. But GMJR usually doesn't get those returns, so I'd rather not.

POJ promoted from Taxi Squad... here we go!

https://www.nhl.com/pengu...partnerId=pit-fb-penguins

Idk if Winnipeg would have the cap space if Rust was traded, but I could see this being a multi player swap or just a draft pick trade for Roslovic.

I wonder if JR would do a shake up type trade involving Rust in a one for one type deal. He seems like the most likely candidate.

With a quick look at wing for wing trades with similar salary/previous history of being available.

NJ - Gusev or Palmieri
Min- Fiala or Greenway (cap retained)
Ana- Rakell
LA- Iafallo or Kempe


Maybe a Winnipeg trade would be Copp or Lowry with Roslovic for Rust and a pick to make the salary work.

I have a feeling we were looking to deal Pettersson or Matheson to Winnipeg in a deal or maybe a pick.
- 123Kid

I'd love to snag Rackell

Even if Matheson is out for the season, if POJ is NHL caliber we are still 8 NHL defensemen deep. You really can't hold onto many much more than 8 unless you have guys on ELC that are waiver exempt. Given that our top 4 is intact and Pettersson is only out short term, this really should not be a priority.
- Victoro311

I agree with what Rino is saying. Week to week could easily be a month or more and in a short season we might need a stop gap. I'd be at least making calls and seeing what's out there while I evaluate POJ or if a righty can play on the left. Three LHD is a lot to be missing for what can easily be a quarter of the season or more in an anticipated tight race.

Yeah. It was widely acknowledged Rutherford was taking a shot at Rust talking about Cup winners that had lost their edge.

Maybe just my opinion, but I think the effort part of Rust's game didn't completely return last year. Didn't think he was as hard along the boards or in front of the net. But he was scoring a bunch of goals and I thought that more than made up for it.

So slow start could I see GMJR do this. Maybe, depends on if he feels Hagelin was a mistake to learn from.

Is it a good idea? I wouldn't personally, but you can certainly make the old argument his value will never be higher after the year he just had so Rust could net an outsized return. But GMJR usually doesn't get those returns, so I'd rather not.
- Tojo.

I don't wanna trade Rust either. I'm just trying to think what Ruth would do haha. That's hard sometimes, never know with him anymore..

POJ promoted from Taxi Squad... here we go!

https://www.nhl.com/pengu...partnerId=pit-fb-penguins
- Beatnic57

Yea that had to happen, wasn't even in question haha

I think people are undervaluing Rust. Yeah, Roslovic is younger, but Rust will only be 30 when his deal expires. Sure, Roslovic could have a higher ceiling as Rust's ceiling was probably last season, but there's a good chance Roslovic never becomes anything more than a bottom six winger. We could easily downgrade in such a trade.

I would feel better with just a pick/prospect going the other way or have WPG add a player if Rust is to be included.

I'm pretty sure Matheson is untradeable unless we are getting back another bad contract. Petts may have been on the block, but I have come full circle on him and would rather keep him.
- Hockey66

I agree with Rust being undervalued which is why I can't see Roslovic for Rust 1 for 1. I do think Roslovic could be a solid player. I think that line needs a switch up. I would like to see Zucker get bumped up with Sid. I can't wait to see Kap on the top line as well.

I haven’t had a chance to see who the rentals are this season.
- Rinosaur

Hjalmarsson is a free agent next season. Idk how the Yotes are doing though. Would they part with him in a week?

Edit:Yotes are sucking right now.

2nd sounds like too much. Like they're fishing for a 2nd but he should net a 3rd.

But GMJR payed that premium on Kapanen so he might just do that.
- Tojo.

I agree on both! That Roslovic should probably net a 3rd, unless someone like JR feels he could be a special player. I do think Roslovic could do well next to a better center.

I agree with Rust being undervalued which is why I can't see Roslovic for Rust 1 for 1. I do think Roslovic could be a solid player. I think that line needs a switch up. I would like to see Zucker get bumped up with Sid. I can't wait to see Kap on the top line as well.
- 123Kid

Yea I agree.I'd like to see....
Zucker-Sid-Kap
Guentz-Geno-Rust
McCann-Jankowski-Tanev
O'Conner-Blue-Rod

No way I'm doing Rust for Roso straight up. I did suggest a 2nd or a 3rd for him two days ago though, I'd be fine with a 2nd. I think the kid would be a good addition to the forward corps. The injury bug hasn't bitten the forwards yet, but it most likely will. Not much forward depth outside of who they're dressing now.

I have mixed emotions about trading for another LD. Want to see how this looks for the next game or so first.

No way I'm doing Rust for Roso straight up. I did suggest a 2nd or a 3rd for him two days ago though, I'd be fine with a 2nd. I think the kid would be a good addition to the forward corps. The injury bug hasn't bitten the forwards yet, but it most likely will. Not much forward depth outside of who they're dressing now.

I have mixed emotions about trading for another LD. Want to see how this looks for the next game or so first.
- MattStrat

I don't want to do it, I was just saying if that BS rumor was true and Ruth has been looking at Roslovic I could see it happening. I would like to just add him for Legare or a third and keep our forwards.

I don't want to do it, I was just saying if that BS rumor was true and Ruth has been looking at Roslovic I could see it happening. I would like to just add him for Legare or a third and keep our forwards.
- 668710

Yeah Jim is an erratic trader. Its not that far fetched. Is there a LD available from the Jets as well?...I think Ive been reading they want a LD themselves but I could be thinking of another team.

Yeah Jim is an erratic trader. Its not that far fetched. Is there a LD available from the Jets as well?...I think Ive been reading they want a LD themselves but I could be thinking of another team.
- MattStrat

No the Jets are looking for LD. The free agent LD from the Yotes are Hjalmarsson and Goligoski if we can snag one of them.

I completely agree with you.

I wasn't sure what that report meant. Was Rutherford mad because he said it and it got out, or never said it and was mad it was reported? Or is it all made up?
- Tojo.

The article was a little vague in that respect. It could be interpreted a few ways.

The article was a little vague in that respect. It could be interpreted a few ways.
- Rinosaur

So basically the article was BS

No the Jets are looking for LD. The free agent LD from the Yotes are Hjalmarsson and Goligoski if we can snag one of them.
- 668710

Price will be the issue there, but how much LTIR the Pens eventually have could solve that.

So basically the article was BS
- 668710

I mean, it's TIOPS. Always take whatever they say with a grain of salt. They're a slightly more credible source than EK, so that doesn't say much. They get it right sometimes, but it's rare.

I was wondering if Victor Mete from Montreal would be a good pick up if available.

Jordan Oesterle from AZ might be an option. He's a serviceable LD on a cap-friendly-hit and an FA after this season. $1.4M.

I mean, it's TIOPS. Always take whatever they say with a grain of salt. They're a slightly more credible source than EK, so that doesn't say much. They get it right sometimes, but it's rare.
- Rinosaur

I 100% agree. Sometimes they are correct with their reports, but it's like a .0004% success rate. So you never know what's true and what is not. I have a gut feeling Roslovic becomes a Pen. I wonder how many trades will happen this season with the quarantine timeline following a trade

Jordan Oesterle from AZ might be an option. He's a serviceable LD on a cap-friendly-hit and an FA after this season. $1.4M.
- Rinosaur

I saw him, I don't know anything about him though.

I 100% agree. Sometimes they are correct with their reports, but it's like a .0004% success rate. So you never know what's true and what is not. I have a gut feeling Roslovic becomes a Pen. I wonder how many trades will happen this season with the quarantine timeline following a trade
- 123Kid

2-3 trades I think haha