Wanna blog? Start your own hockey blog with My HockeyBuzz. Register for free today!
 
Forums :: Blog World :: Bill Meltzer: Flyers Gameday: 1/21/21 @ BOS
Author Message
juiced
Joined: 06.13.2014

Jan 21 @ 10:39 AM ET
You don't see the immediate downside to sitting out a superior player in Aube-Kubel for a player who has never played an NHL game at the position he is currently at and hasn't played a significant amount of hockey in two years? Interesting.
- MJL


Wherever did I say sit NAK? Frost is out....Morin is in, where in that equation does it subtract NAK.

I understand your proclivity to look to be on the offensive and attack with implying that most of us dont think but you jumped the gun on this one.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 21 @ 10:44 AM ET
Wherever did I say sit NAK? Frost is out....Morin is in, where in that equation does it subtract NAK.

I understand your proclivity to look to be on the offensive and attack with implying that most of us dont think but you jumped the gun on this one.

- juiced


NAK was playing on the line where you inserted Morin so excuse me if I misunderstood that part. However that doesn't change the inexcusable for you to say that there is no immediate downside as I pointed out. In my opinion, Morin is far more likely to make mistakes due to the new position and due to his over-aggressiveness, take penalties giving Boston a PP or two.

Also unless they're willing to move Giroux to center, with Frost out, they need to add a center.
leon neon
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: GA
Joined: 02.16.2009

Jan 21 @ 10:46 AM ET
Saw this. Myers is a huge loss.
- Hextall271


Week-to-week is encouraging. Not the 2+weeks like Coots.
juiced
Joined: 06.13.2014

Jan 21 @ 10:52 AM ET
NAK was playing on the line where you inserted Morin so excuse me if I misunderstood that part. However that doesn't change the inexcusable for you to say that there is no immediate downside as I pointed out. In my opinion, Morin is far more likely to make mistakes due to the new position and due to his over-aggressiveness, take penalties giving Boston a PP or two.
- MJL


Funny...thought I clearly stated there is inherent risk in my proposal. Guess its OK you overlooked that. I also gave reasons why I felt the offset was rational IMO and I even said its my opinion and you dont have to like it or agree.

Moving Claude inherently means a reshuffle of many players....some may even swap right to left so saying NAK is on the line was an assumption you made. Given V's tendencies of keeping pairs together at a minimum, Raffl and Laughts work well together hence my whomever they slot.

Long and short is you went on the offensive and implied I didnt think...then you did it again with your INEXCUSABLE comment. Not sure why you need this board to be a measure of your winky but peace brother!

SMS4016
Joined: 01.27.2011

Jan 21 @ 10:53 AM ET
Thank god. G finally pushed down to 3rd line where he belongs
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 21 @ 10:54 AM ET
Funny...thought I clearly stated there is inherent risk in my proposal. Guess its OK you overlooked that. I also gave reasons why I felt the offset was rational IMO and I even said its my opinion and you dont have to like it or agree.

Moving Claude inherently means a reshuffle of many players....some may even swap right to left so saying NAK is on the line was an assumption you made. Given V's tendencies of keeping pairs together at a minimum, Raffl and Laughts work well together hence my whomever they slot.

Long and short is you went on the offensive and implied I didnt think...then you did it again with your INEXCUSABLE comment. Not sure why you need this board to be a measure of your winky but peace brother!

- juiced


Your statement. Your whining here won't change what you stated. I disagree with your suggestion. If you want to make more of it in a childish rant, then that's on you.

"I just dont see the immediate downside of a Morin - Laughton - Raffl line"
SMS4016
Joined: 01.27.2011

Jan 21 @ 10:55 AM ET
Time to move frosty in a package. Years of slow progress and injuries. He was never a top end talent prospect.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jan 21 @ 10:56 AM ET
Is it panic time yet for the defense and its health ? A 3-4 game skid could mean missing the playoffs in our division. Theres no push overs or easy wins.
- Tfaehner


I have a hunch that Friedman's gonna come in and play really well.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 21 @ 10:56 AM ET
Time to move frosty in a package. Years of slow progress and injuries. He was never a top end talent prospect.
- SMS4016


Absurd.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Jan 21 @ 10:57 AM ET
That second pair (even if it is just on paper) is the stuff of nightmares.

One more dman goes down before Ghost is ready and we may see Big Sam moving back to defense.

- MBFlyerfan


That's fine with me, I thought putting him at left wing was stupid anyway. If the kid can't play defense, he should quit and become a scout.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jan 21 @ 10:57 AM ET
Time to move frosty in a package. Years of slow progress and injuries. He was never a top end talent prospect.
- SMS4016


So stupid.
peesinwind
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: columbia, MD
Joined: 06.27.2015

Jan 21 @ 11:02 AM ET
When Coots got hurt I looked at the hit and saw The butt of the stick lifted into his ribs on the hit. Thought...nah. Not on purpose. But than same play and same type of open ice hit on Myers. And same result. Watch the hit and the butt if the stick is lifted up into the rib cage. Frost was the same player but a totally different hit and shoulder injury.

I’m still not jumping up and down but the league could be looking into these types of hits. He could be using that butt of the stick as a hitting weapon. What is your thoughts.
mkabbeko
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 07.17.2013

Jan 21 @ 11:02 AM ET
I have a hunch that Friedman's gonna come in and play really well.
- Tomahawk


I was thinking the same thing. He has been chomping at the bit for a while now.
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Jan 21 @ 11:03 AM ET
Has there been any change in availability status for Ghost?

Edit:

Per tweet from Charlie O’Connor...
“AV says Shayne Gostisbehere skated yesterday. He's skating on his own in Philly, and next practice in Philly he expects him back with the big group. Still on COVID list for now.“
juiced
Joined: 06.13.2014

Jan 21 @ 11:14 AM ET
When Coots got hurt I looked at the hit and saw The butt of the stick lifted into his ribs on the hit. Thought...nah. Not on purpose. But than same play and same type of open ice hit on Myers. And same result. Watch the hit and the butt if the stick is lifted up into the rib cage. Frost was the same player but a totally different hit and shoulder injury.

I’m still not jumping up and down but the league could be looking into these types of hits. He could be using that butt of the stick as a hitting weapon. What is your thoughts.

- peesinwind


Both looked like potential butt ends but that would be super difficult to have DOPS do anything. I would think we should lodge a concern with DOPS so they can watch McAnn and McCabe to see if this is something they utilize going forward and may be able to warn them
leon neon
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: GA
Joined: 02.16.2009

Jan 21 @ 11:15 AM ET
I have a hunch that Friedman's gonna come in and play really well.
- Tomahawk


I agree, as long as he keeps it simple... From what I've seen in his past games, he can play defense but doesn't have add anything flashy with the puck.
Daceroni
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: AB
Joined: 11.20.2006

Jan 21 @ 11:17 AM ET
The Boston defence does not look very intimidating with he loss of their #1 and #2 in the offseason.
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Jan 21 @ 11:20 AM ET
When Coots got hurt I looked at the hit and saw The butt of the stick lifted into his ribs on the hit. Thought...nah. Not on purpose. But than same play and same type of open ice hit on Myers. And same result. Watch the hit and the butt if the stick is lifted up into the rib cage. Frost was the same player but a totally different hit and shoulder injury.

I’m still not jumping up and down but the league could be looking into these types of hits. He could be using that butt of the stick as a hitting weapon. What is your thoughts.

- peesinwind


I definitely thought about this, and I would hope they look at all the replays again and monitor it going forward.

Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jan 21 @ 11:22 AM ET
Both looked like potential butt ends but that would be super difficult to have DOPS do anything. I would think we should lodge a concern with DOPS so they can watch McAnn and McCabe to see if this is something they utilize going forward and may be able to warn them
- juiced


If it’s a broken rib how else could it have happened on the exchange? Def an issue for DOPS
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Jan 21 @ 11:22 AM ET
Its clearly not without risk, but they come at you with waves of physicality. They saw the Islanders series vs. us....they know exactly how to come at us.

Very Heavy Game:
Ritchie, Frederic, Kurarly. Lauzon, McAvoy, Carlo, Miller

Moderately heavy (heavier than most of our guys):
Wagner, Smith, DeBrusk, Studnika and Coyle

I just dont see the immediate downside of a Morin - Laughton - Raffl line with Claude moving to Center vs. a Raffl - Bunny - whomever they slot.

Boston is sitting 6th so odds are they will be hyped. IMO- Game one I roll with Morin for some size and physicality as a small offest if things get bad and take advantage that he can play D on the kill. Pull him for game 2 if it doesnt wor out but if Im Boston im setting physical tone game one in hopes we tuck tail and come out gun shy game two. Just one man's opinion here...you dont have to like it or agree with it.

- juiced


Yes and I respect your opinion, I just think that against a team like Boston you have to put your best lineup on the ice, and Morin at left wing is Ludacris IMO. I mean if you put him on the 4th line you are going to have to sit either Raffl or NAK, and I would not do that since Morin is inferior to both those players. In general I think this entire move to wing for Morin is stupid, it makes no sense, the kid is 6'7" and taller on skates, he belongs at D or scouting teams.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jan 21 @ 11:23 AM ET
The Boston defence does not look very intimidating with he loss of their #1 and #2 in the offseason.
- Daceroni


How’s ours look? We were paper thin prior to Myers going out.
juiced
Joined: 06.13.2014

Jan 21 @ 11:24 AM ET
If it’s a broken rib how else could it have happened on the exchange? Def an issue for DOPS
- Just5


Closed fist on end of stick would most likely be the claim of the offender.

Like a fist with a roll of pennies in it can easily cause major damage.


jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Jan 21 @ 11:25 AM ET
Time to move frosty in a package. Years of slow progress and injuries. He was never a top end talent prospect.
- SMS4016


Wow!
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Jan 21 @ 11:27 AM ET
The Boston defence does not look very intimidating with he loss of their #1 and #2 in the offseason.
- Daceroni


You sure about this? In 3 games so far this season the Bruins have given up 3 regulation goals, that's 1 goal per game, and 3X better than the Flyers currently.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jan 21 @ 11:28 AM ET
I would make a couple minor changes in detail to this line up. I think on the third line, I would switch Giroux to center and Laughton to wing. The reason is, I think Laughton would be that line’s best forchecker and he’s pretty physical along the wall. I’d also play Provorov and Sanheim as much as possible tonight but separately. Our defense is OK without Ghostisbehere and Myers, not great, but we have guys who can pick up the slack? Anyone remember Laviolette only playing two pairs in the Stanley Cup playoffs? Pronger, Timonen, Coburn and Carle? We’ll be alright.
Page: Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15  Next