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RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Jan 19 @ 12:24 PM ET
I know that Mike in Buffalo would have you believe we have 50 prospects, but c'mon.

Sandin looks good.

Liljegren is a question mark.

Robertson looks fine, although Leafs Nation has vastly over-rated him.

What else do we have?

- Atomic Wedgie



Given Leafs haven't had high picks they do have a good, solid prospect pool and it's much better than when Hunter was picking.
2 straight years a Dubas pick has been best D at the W juniors.
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Jan 19 @ 12:25 PM ET
You're never going to hit a home run in later rounds on your picks. But to be able to have 2 or 3 good players outside the first round to help your core is huge.
- RogerRoeper

I don't get this argument. Dubas' reign has been trying to hit homeruns on his late picks and I think that is a smart move. The Lightning have shown you can go balls to the walls later and hope they turn into good/great players. You just need a good core already (which the Leafs have).

The thing is that after Hunter left, they are still picking overagers...which was supposed to be a "Hunter" thing. When Bracco was trending well it wasn't Hunter...it was Dubas.

Can we all stop pretending we know what random pick while there were two "draft guys" as assistant GM's were which?

bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Jan 19 @ 12:29 PM ET


Dippoop Olympics.

- GreatGigInTheSky



WTF was he trying to prove with 4 seconds to go in the game ??
TurdFergeson
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: On the road again
Joined: 01.04.2021

Jan 19 @ 12:30 PM ET
Given Leafs haven't had high picks they do have a good, solid prospect pool and it's much better than when Hunter was picking.
2 straight years a Dubas pick has been best D at the W juniors.

- RogerRoeper


What do you mean the leafs haven’t had high picks?
Matthews 1st
Marner 4th
Rielly 5th
Nylander 8th

??
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Jan 19 @ 12:31 PM ET
What do you mean the leafs haven’t had high picks?
Matthews 1st
Marner 4th
Rielly 5th
Nylander 8th

??

- TurdFergeson


None of those were under Dubas. I believe that’s what he’s talking about
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jan 19 @ 12:38 PM ET
What do you mean the leafs haven’t had high picks?
Matthews 1st
Marner 4th
Rielly 5th
Nylander 8th

??

- TurdFergeson



Also Dubas drafted Wendel Clark #1 in 1986
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Jan 19 @ 12:40 PM ET
Also Dubas drafted Wendel Clark #1 in 1986
- senstroll


Before he even turned 1
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Jan 19 @ 12:42 PM ET
WTF was he trying to prove with 4 seconds to go in the game ??
- bixll


I think he knew that Tyler Myers was gonna buttend Tkachuk in the face later and he wanted to try and cement the biggest douche play of the night.

Clown move by Pionk.
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Jan 19 @ 12:43 PM ET
Before he even turned 1
- Dozzer


A true prodigy
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Jan 19 @ 12:45 PM ET
All these Covid cancelled games is going to kill the pools. 😡
Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Whenever, wherever, ON
Joined: 06.27.2013

Jan 19 @ 12:46 PM ET
I don't get this argument. Dubas' reign has been trying to hit homeruns on his late picks and I think that is a smart move. The Lightning have shown you can go balls to the walls later and hope they turn into good/great players. You just need a good core already (which the Leafs have).

The thing is that after Hunter left, they are still picking overagers...which was supposed to be a "Hunter" thing. When Bracco was trending well it wasn't Hunter...it was Dubas.

Can we all stop pretending we know what random pick while there were two "draft guys" as assistant GM's were which?

- AdamFrench


Given his size, there's no way that Bracco wasn't Dubas-influenced. You can't have it both ways - "Hunter only drafted size and that's why he was terrible," and have him pick Bracco.

That draft in 2015 received a lot of love from pundits as being a heavily skilled draft. Picks like Bracco, Dzierkals and Timashov were all considered to be very non-Leafy picks, and lauded for their skills rather than their size.

Obviously not a huge fan of the 2016/17 drafts, but I like the swing at Rasanen, and I do like Brooks as a tweener. The jury is still out on Woll and Scott.

One of the things I have liked about the last couple of drafts is that the prospects are starting to get more international recognition (world juniors as the principal example) and are performing well against other elite peers.

I am reminded of . . .I think it was 2001, maybe 2002 . . . we had a ton of prospects in the world juniors, and none of them really stood out. I was very enthusiastic going into, and pretty 'meh' coming out of that tournament.

This time, I am liking the performances of more of the prospects.
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Jan 19 @ 12:46 PM ET
Hunter could have drafted Matthews in the 3rd round and some would find a way to make it look bad. We have so many fans all over the map, just smile and wave. 😎😎
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Jan 19 @ 12:47 PM ET
Also Dubas drafted Wendel Clark #1 in 1986
- senstroll



That was a good pick, Clark is still a fan favourite.. I like Dubas even more now..
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Jan 19 @ 12:47 PM ET
Hunter could have drafted Matthews in the 3rd round and some would find a way to make it look bad. We have so many fans all over the map, just smile and wave. 😎😎
- Garnie


Hunter's drafting was a mess. Other teams have taken note.
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Jan 19 @ 12:48 PM ET
Hunter's drafting was a mess. Other teams have taken note.
- RogerRoeper


*waves*
mgriffen
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jan 19 @ 12:48 PM ET
I think the cheapshot came from the guy that took more than 5 strides (charging), attempted slew foot, kneeing, and still somehow almost hit him in the head, while not even attempting to go for the puck.

But maybe that's just me.

- GreatGigInTheSky


Yeah but the Jets players sure got riled up over it. Just because Marner chirped Pionk after he scored? I can't fault him for it...
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Jan 19 @ 12:48 PM ET
What do you mean the leafs haven’t had high picks?
Matthews 1st
Marner 4th
Rielly 5th
Nylander 8th

??

- TurdFergeson


I meant in the past 2 and a half years since Dubas took over. Those guys aren't prospects.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jan 19 @ 12:51 PM ET
True but it's our big 4 that will bring us to that next level. What team can match Matthews, Marner, Nylander, Tavares? Tampa and that's it.
- RogerRoeper

It wont only be the top 4.
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Jan 19 @ 12:51 PM ET
And Konecny with a hattie the other day.

Leafs haterz will say it was a dumb move by Dubas and Co, but they forget we also got Bracco out of the deal.

- Atomic Wedgie


That draft was (frank)ing bad. I would like to think they learned their lesson, but something tells me that "learning" isn't something that happens easily in Leafs land.
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Jan 19 @ 12:51 PM ET
Yeah but the Jets players sure got riled up over it. Just because Marner chirped Pionk after he scored? I can't fault him for it...
- mgriffen


I understand standing up for your teammates, but there's absolutely no defense for Pionk being a sack of poop like that.

He didn't even attempt to play the puck and stop Marner from scoring. Complete female dog move.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jan 19 @ 12:52 PM ET
That was a good pick, Clark is still a fan favourite.. I like Dubas even more now..
- PatC80

He could have taken Chris Simpson - and then kept him in the minors, ruining his career.

That way, we would have never had to listen to Chris Simpson on Leafs broadcasts.
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jan 19 @ 12:53 PM ET
Before he even turned 1
- Dozzer


he was doing charts and graphs in the womb
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Jan 19 @ 12:53 PM ET
Hunter's drafting was a mess. Other teams have taken note.
- RogerRoeper

All you do is female dog, we have the 3rd best record since Keefe took over but all I see is tears every day. Enjoy them without bashing people for a day or 2, FML. Who cares, Shanny let him have a couple drafts and went with Dubas. I don’t get the constant need to say the same things over and over. Lots of teams including Dubas miss good picks, obviously it’s not super easy.

Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jan 19 @ 12:55 PM ET
This is where guys like Simmonds and Bogo will make the most difference... when they see one of their teammates get pushed around they’ll be the first to ask “why are you letting them do that?”
- Dozzer

Exactly.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jan 19 @ 12:56 PM ET
All you do is female dog, we have the 3rd best record since Keefe took over but all I see is tears every day. Enjoy them without bashing people for a day or 2, FML. Who cares, Shanny let him have a couple drafts and went with Dubas. I don’t get the constant need to say the same things over and over. Lots of teams including Dubas miss good picks, obviously it’s not super easy.
- Garnie

Thank you
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