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Angus4444
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.03.2018

Jan 16 @ 1:00 PM ET
Fair enough Bill. But take it up in person. Or Twitter. Dont humiliate the guy in public, and create a video that will last forever, especially since he cant swing back. And you are a 8 million + player who has done squat in the playoffs in almost a decade now.
- PT21

How about you not worry how JV treats people. You’ve been cursed out on here a million times yet you keep coming back. You also have talked crap on people. Let the pro athletes and journalist have at it missy. They’ve probably already had a beer over it. Stop over analyzing everything, it’s life.
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Jan 16 @ 1:01 PM ET
I didn't corroborate a damn thing. If it was newsworthy every time a player smiled or chuckled after practice the day following an ugly loss there'd be dozens of those stories every season
- bmeltzer


Bill, wasnt AV chewing out his top players at the time? That is what I have read. So, wasnt the remarks addressed to Voracek among others?

If that is the case, shouldn't he have been paying attention? And not sharing chuckles with his teammate?

And if he was, isnt this a sign of indifference to the message of AV that you claimed Sielski was falsely making? Sure might happen all the time but technically speaking it seems like the journalist was correct?
Dkos
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gritty, PA
Joined: 01.15.2007

Jan 16 @ 1:01 PM ET
Jake can't say good morning or Merry Christmas without an f-bomb . Neither can Wayne Simmonds, except around kids or when the cameras are turned on. Jake can't turn on the filter.
- bmeltzer


This is just silly. He can’t turn it off? Does he have Tourette’s? He just chooses to not turn it off. He’s a rich pro athlete that thinks that rules don’t apply to him. That being said, I am not offended by cursing and thought it was hilarious. I still think NBCSN, especially knowing Voracek’s lack of filter, screwed up letting it air.
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Jan 16 @ 1:04 PM ET
The great thing about America. We can agree to disagree.

- landros 2


Of course. And we Americans need to learn from you Canadians how to be more mellow.🤗

In particular, I should not have said that Jake was a low life. That's over the top. Having said that, I'm not speaking at a press conference where I hope I will be able to use more of a filter.

If Jake cannot use a filter and cannot stop using the f word wherever he is, including a press conference, then I suggest he not go up in front of journalists in that situation.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jan 16 @ 1:05 PM ET
kind of an awesome time in flyers history when the only thing to argue about is their off ice behavior
Sublime55
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.24.2012

Jan 16 @ 1:08 PM ET
kind of an awesome time in flyers history when the only thing to argue about is their off ice behavior
- 2Real


👍
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jan 16 @ 1:09 PM ET
Angus4444
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.03.2018

Jan 16 @ 1:11 PM ET
This is just silly. He can’t turn it off? Does he have Tourette’s? He just chooses to not turn it off. He’s a rich pro athlete that thinks that rules don’t apply to him. That being said, I am not offended by cursing and thought it was hilarious. I still think NBCSN, especially knowing Voracek’s lack of filter, screwed up letting it air.
- Dkos

He’s normal dumb dumb
Peter Richards
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Jan 16 @ 1:12 PM ET
Wow. People are overreacting to jake being human. They have rules in place and I’m sure he will have to answer to someone. And I’m pretty sure worse things have been said. Does everyone know who torts is?
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jan 16 @ 1:12 PM ET
Wow. People are overreacting to jake being human. They have rules in place and I’m sure he will have to answer to someone. And I’m pretty sure worse things have been said. Does everyone know who torts is?
- Peter Richards

no who the (frank) is the Fonzi?
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Jan 16 @ 1:14 PM ET
Wow. People are overreacting to jake being human. They have rules in place and I’m sure he will have to answer to someone. And I’m pretty sure worse things have been said. Does everyone know who torts is?
- Peter Richards


Yeah.. I thought it was hilarious TBH..
Angus4444
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.03.2018

Jan 16 @ 1:14 PM ET
Of course. And we Americans need to learn from you Canadians how to be more mellow.🤗

In particular, I should not have said that Jake was a low life. That's over the top. Having said that, I'm not speaking at a press conference where I hope I will be able to use more of a filter.

If Jake cannot use a filter and cannot stop using the f word wherever he is, including a press conference, then I suggest he not go up in front of journalists in that situation.

- PT21

God your pathetic. At least he’s not fake , like you Sheldon. My god grow a pair , or just hide for the rest of your life if the mean hockey players are cursing
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Jan 16 @ 1:21 PM ET
Of course. And we Americans need to learn from you Canadians how to be more mellow.🤗

In particular, I should not have said that Jake was a low life. That's over the top. Having said that, I'm not speaking at a press conference where I hope I will be able to use more of a filter.

If Jake cannot use a filter and cannot stop using the f word wherever he is, including a press conference, then I suggest he not go up in front of journalists in that situation.

- PT21


Make no mistake this Canadian would probably have done the same thing ...lol
I’m fine with a reporter talking about a performance but I can understand why Jake would have issue with a character shot when it really has been shown to be manufactured. Philly is tough enough on their athletes without exaggeration. Let’s hope it’s over a done with for Jakes sake...as a fan I want him focused on one thing and on thing only. (And I’m sure he is).
To me a reporter better be 100 % sure when he says something like that or he should expect blow back.
To do it publically helps Jake set the “public” record straight.
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Jan 16 @ 1:22 PM ET
no who the (frank) is the Fonzi?
- 2Real



So that’s what happened to the Fonz...
leon neon
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: GA
Joined: 02.16.2009

Jan 16 @ 1:27 PM ET
I don't think any player on the team in untrainable or un-coachable. Last season both JVR and Voracek improved their off the puck play.

The Flyers were one of the top teams in the league last season in shot suppression.

- MJL


By untrainable, I mean they lack the size or talent to get the team to a higher level. Ghost, Gus, Braunn, Hagg... none of these guys will be a true top line pairing. Jake and JVR will never be good two-way offenseman. Can the coach build a system to reduce the liabilities, sure. Will it be good enough, time will tell. I don’t think Jake and JVR should be on the same line - no way to fix that. As for a Provy partner, they need a trade. Short term fix, they can reduce Provy-braunn/ghost line time an up Myers-Sandhiem.
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Jan 16 @ 1:31 PM ET
kind of an awesome time in flyers history when the only thing to argue about is their off ice behavior
- 2Real


Then you would have loved the 70’s.
DrMidnite
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: False-Positive, Texas
Joined: 12.10.2010

Jan 16 @ 1:31 PM ET
Not for much longer.
- MBFlyerfan


LOL it's tenuous at best!

I love discourse but hate trolling.
Richieattack18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Girouxsalem
Joined: 07.13.2010

Jan 16 @ 1:32 PM ET
How about you not worry how JV treats people. You’ve been cursed out on here a million times yet you keep coming back. You also have talked crap on people. Let the pro athletes and journalist have at it missy. They’ve probably already had a beer over it. Stop over analyzing everything, it’s life.
- Angus4444

PT just a weird soy boy who thinks players have to be respectful to poopty journalists that write misleading stories attacking their character
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jan 16 @ 1:38 PM ET
PT just a weird soy boy who thinks players have to be respectful to poopty journalists that write misleading stories attacking their character
- Richieattack18

apparently they ran out of his Soy Vey at his local whole foods and he's going through withdrawal
Peter Richards
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Jan 16 @ 1:42 PM ET
Yeah.. I thought it was hilarious TBH..
- Hextall271


I keep watching that tk reaction. Priceless.
MrPerfect316
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Canada, YT
Joined: 07.06.2008

Jan 16 @ 1:46 PM ET
Winning is fun.

Jake being honest is fun.

MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 16 @ 1:52 PM ET
By untrainable, I mean they lack the size or talent to get the team to a higher level. Ghost, Gus, Braunn, Hagg... none of these guys will be a true top line pairing. Jake and JVR will never be good two-way offenseman. Can the coach build a system to reduce the liabilities, sure. Will it be good enough, time will tell. I don’t think Jake and JVR should be on the same line - no way to fix that. As for a Provy partner, they need a trade. Short term fix, they can reduce Provy-braunn/ghost line time an up Myers-Sandhiem.
- leon neon



They don't need to make a trade nor should they in my opinion.
leon neon
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: GA
Joined: 02.16.2009

Jan 16 @ 1:53 PM ET
A) any word on coots!

B) where’s the best online place to get updated?
leon neon
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: GA
Joined: 02.16.2009

Jan 16 @ 1:56 PM ET
They don't need to make a trade nor should they in my opinion.
- MJL


In your opinion, who plays with Provy? Continue with Braunn? Substitute Ghost when he returns? Or, Myers and break up line two?
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Jan 16 @ 2:00 PM ET
Bill, wasnt AV chewing out his top players at the time? That is what I have read. So, wasnt the remarks addressed to Voracek among others?

If that is the case, shouldn't he have been paying attention? And not sharing chuckles with his teammate?

And if he was, isnt this a sign of indifference to the message of AV that you claimed Sielski was falsely making? Sure might happen all the time but technically speaking it seems like the journalist was correct?

- PT21


AV never tells the media anything he hasn't already said to a player. Yes, AV was telling us that his top players needed to elevate their games -- save for the Lindblom-Couturier-Konecny line, which was sizzling hot. He had said the same thing in the team meeting that morning.

That day, he mentioned Giroux, Hayes, Voracek and JVR as all needing to play better. I think that may also have been the same day he said it was strictly a hockey assessment; he liked them all as people but needed a little for them as players. None of the players were upset about it. They agreed with it when asked the next day, including Voracek.

"Chewing out" is an exaggeration. AV was speaking calmly and matter-of-factly. Voracek and JVR were on the other side of the room, having a normal conversation. It really wasn't a big deal.

Even if a team isn't playing well, players aren't in hockey mode 24/7. The time to be serious is in the meeting about how the team is playing and then on the ice after practice. Once you're out of uniform, skates off, etc. you're just a regular person again.
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