One of Danault or Byron and throw in Kulak and you get there. But for that poop sandwich you'd have to throw in some nice picks and prospects. Maybe Danault, Kulak, Mete, Caufield and a top 5 protected 1st? Still probably doesn't get it done but who knows. In this scenario I'd rather have a dollar than five quarters if that makes sense
- Takemedrunkimhome

That's a lot of assets to give away

Also, apparently Kekalainen wants a young center...so he's looking at Suzuki or Kotkaniemi.

I love Dubois, but I'd be hesitant to give either of those two for him.

Bonus isn't a cap hit until earned on ELC's. McDavid earns all those bonuses, Kotkaniemi, well, not yet at least
- Takemedrunkimhome

Ok thx, i thought they were de facto added. Well then, so much for my offer 😵

That's a lot of assets to give away

Also, apparently Kekalainen wants a young center...so he's looking at Suzuki or Kotkaniemi.

I love Dubois, but I'd be hesitant to give either of those two for him.
- stinger67

if I'm MB I'd like to keep Suzuki, so it would have to be KK... but as I was saying yesterday if he can get it done and trade Danault instead, having PLD-Suzuki-KK as centers could potentially bring them to another level

That's a lot of assets to give away

Also, apparently Kekalainen wants a young center...so he's looking at Suzuki or Kotkaniemi.

I love Dubois, but I'd be hesitant to give either of those two for him.
- stinger67

It is a lot of assets but most aren't top tier and I protected the 1st. Danault is replaced by PLD as a much better option. Caufield isn't on the team yet. Mete isn't in the top 6. Kulak could be replaced by Fleury on the 3rd pair. Byron could be replaced by Perry. Gotta give to get and if you're not giving premium assets you probably have to give a lot of them

That's a lot of assets to give away

Also, apparently Kekalainen wants a young center...so he's looking at Suzuki or Kotkaniemi.

I love Dubois, but I'd be hesitant to give either of those two for him.
- stinger67

I'm a big fan of KK, I think we're only seeing the tip of his potential right now.

But If I have to give him up for PLD.

I do it.

A young, big, strong, talented, playoff performer, local talent.

You can't pass that up.

Just like they couldn't pass up the possibility of adding Drouin. (Who, btw, might just prove everyone wrong and make this trade look just fine with a great season next to Suzuki and Anderson.)

Of course, if somehow an extended Danault can be sent instead of KK, you do it. But I doubt it satisfies Columbus.

That's a lot of assets to give away

Also, apparently Kekalainen wants a young center...so he's looking at Suzuki or Kotkaniemi.

I love Dubois, but I'd be hesitant to give either of those two for him.
- stinger67

You don’t touch Suzuki but KK is expendable especially for Dubois. Dubois is the better player and you know what you have in Dubois. With KK you are still talking about potential and ifs. Besides, Dubois is still very young and his game matures and progresses year after year. To me KK for PLD is a no-brainer as much as PLD for Nick is a no-go.

I'm a big fan of KK, I think we're only seeing the tip of his potential right now.

But If I have to give him up for PLD.

I do it.

A young, big, strong, talented, playoff performer, local talent.

You can't pass that up.

Just like they couldn't pass up the possibility of adding Drouin. (Who, btw, might just prove everyone wrong and make this trade look just fine with a great season next to Suzuki and Anderson.)

Of course, if somehow an extended Danault can be sent instead of KK, you do it. But I doubt it satisfies Columbus.
- Scabeh

😍

I'm a big fan of KK, I think we're only seeing the tip of his potential right now.

But If I have to give him up for PLD.

I do it.

A young, big, strong, talented, playoff performer, local talent.

You can't pass that up.

Just like they couldn't pass up the possibility of adding Drouin. (Who, btw, might just prove everyone wrong and make this trade look just fine with a great season next to Suzuki and Anderson.)

Of course, if somehow an extended Danault can be sent instead of KK, you do it. But I doubt it satisfies Columbus.
- Scabeh

exactly.

😍
- Habsody

Like your choice in men.
- AdamFrench

i didn't mean to hurt you

- Scabeh

😂 We pretty much have the same lecture. I like KK too but the thought of having Dubois and Suzuki as our top 2 centers is salivating to say the least and would solidify they top 6. Also, it would put Danault on the 3rd, which is a much better fit for his game.

i didn't mean to hurt you
- mr.peanut

Does sound like he's thirsty for you to add a little cream there

as much as Columbus needs to move him, there are plenty of suitors for PLD. assuming they would prefer to unload him in the west, look at LAK and Anaheim as potential partners.

Who cares where PLD wants to go, he does not have a NTC/NMC, it's up to the GM to decide where he goes.

😂 We pretty much have the same lecture. I like KK too but the thought of having Dubois and Suzuki as our top 2 centers is salivating to say the least and would solidify they top 6. Also, it would put Danault on the 3rd, which is a much better fit for his game.
- Habsody

Danault will ask for top 6 money after this year though, that's the challenge with him, can you afford to pay your 3rd line center 6M/yr?

Danault will ask for top 6 money after this year though, that's the challenge with him, can you afford to pay your 3rd line center 6M/yr?
- Symba007

OF course not, I think an UFA or Poehling/Evans will take the spot.

I can't wait for the Domi/Torts saga to start...

So why aren't all my player's points being counted? For example, Josh Anderson has no points in the pool, and he wasn't on the bench....

Danault will ask for top 6 money after this year though, that's the challenge with him, can you afford to pay your 3rd line center 6M/yr?
- Symba007

Of course not, having Dubois would help make the transition if he doesn't lower his demands. He is a top 6 by default so yeah you might lose him next year but it’s easier to get a 3rd C than find a young star like Dubois.

as much as Columbus needs to move him, there are plenty of suitors for PLD. assuming they would prefer to unload him in the west, look at LAK and Anaheim as potential partners.

Who cares where PLD wants to go, he does not have a NTC/NMC, it's up to the GM to decide where he goes.
- Symba007

Kekalainen is no fool either.

Remember when Sakic held on Matt Duchene who asked for a trade for more than a year?

People called him crazy, he was detroying his value bla bla bla.

He turned it into Girard and Byram.

Kekalainen can take his time. You never know, Torts might get fired and things can change, like Puljujarvi.

Of course not, having Dubois would help make the transition if he doesn't lower his demands. He is a top 6 by default so yeah you might lose him next year but it’s easier to get a 3rd C than find a young star like Dubois.
- Habsody

the other situation is the cap space, Dubais cost 5M already and will be up for his BIG contract in 2yrs, much sooner than KK and Suzuki.

Great podcast at the Athletic Support last week on that subject

Kekalainen is no fool either.

Remember when Sakic held on Matt Duchene who asked for a trade for more than a year?

People called him crazy, he was detroying his value bla bla bla.

He turned it into Girard and Byram.

Kekalainen can take his time. You never know, Torts might get fired and things can change, like Puljujarvi.
- Scabeh

When I was watching the Preds vs Cbus highlights, I was actually shocked to remember that Matt Duchene is a Pred.

So why aren't all my player's points being counted? For example, Josh Anderson has no points in the pool, and he wasn't on the bench....
- obie

click on the day they played

the other situation is the cap space, Dubais cost 5M already and will be up for his BIG contract in 2yrs, much sooner than KK and Suzuki.

Great podcast at the Athletic Support last week on that subject
- Symba007

I keep hearing about how the Habs have a small window to win now with Weber and Price.

But with the very decent prospect pool coming up, maybe our prime time isn't with these 2 after all.

Maybe it'll be with the Primeau, Harris, Struble, Norlinder, Fleury, Caufield, Hudon, Guhle and Mysak generation.

So why aren't all my player's points being counted? For example, Josh Anderson has no points in the pool, and he wasn't on the bench....
- obie

I dunno, I also don't quite get how the score works, in my match-up my score is going up and down, wtf lol

as much as Columbus needs to move him, there are plenty of suitors for PLD. assuming they would prefer to unload him in the west, look at LAK and Anaheim as potential partners.

Who cares where PLD wants to go, he does not have a NTC/NMC, it's up to the GM to decide where he goes.
- Symba007

Also...I don't know the full story, but a 22 year old that asks for a trade...it's a red flag for me.