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jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Feb 17 @ 7:08 PM ET
People that post if we trade Eichel we will have to fold or move the team, that's comical.
- SABRES 89


What's the point with the same people running the show? It's gonna be more of the same poop. Furthermore, when has it ever worked for a Buffalo sports team when we move a superstar?

Eichel will win a cup and a Hart and we'll have two more first round Girgensonses to show for it
IndianaSabresFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt FRICKIN ELLIS, IN
Joined: 01.17.2007

Feb 17 @ 7:08 PM ET
Lol, thanks for the support pal
- jdfitz77

I didn’t read the article but I saw it briefly. If it is an old commercial or warehouse renovation to mixed use facility that is par for the course those buildings have been built prior to real standards and then left vacant for a while. I am currently working on one as an engineer and it’s a disaster and will take years to make it viable. I can’t imagine having the money to dump into those projects because you have to know you might not get it back. But again I didn’t read the article and may be way off
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Feb 17 @ 7:24 PM ET
People that post if we trade Eichel we will have to fold or move the team, that's comical.
- SABRES 89


Really have seen that post Suprisingly

It kinda sucks going to the games without him.
Couple years he was injured.

He's entertaining, but so is winning.
Not sure if he's bringing winning here?
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Feb 17 @ 7:44 PM ET
Really have seen that post Suprisingly

It kinda sucks going to the games without him.
Couple years he was injured.

He's entertaining, but so is winning.
Not sure if he's bringing winning here?

- Boss34


This is the same kind of thing people said about ROR. I will guarantee that an Eichel trade makes the Sabres look silly, and I will even offer 2:1 odds for you.
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Feb 17 @ 7:45 PM ET
I didn’t read the article but I saw it briefly. If it is an old commercial or warehouse renovation to mixed use facility that is par for the course those buildings have been built prior to real standards and then left vacant for a while. I am currently working on one as an engineer and it’s a disaster and will take years to make it viable. I can’t imagine having the money to dump into those projects because you have to know you might not get it back. But again I didn’t read the article and may be way off
- IndianaSabresFan


2 years $150M+ is what the article said.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Feb 17 @ 7:48 PM ET
This is the same kind of thing people said about ROR. I will guarantee that an Eichel trade makes the Sabres look silly, and I will even offer 2:1 odds for you.
- jcragcrumple

I don’t think it’s comparable

Trading Eichel is basically giving up on an entire roster construction and totally starting over

Trading ROR was just a big name that wasn’t happy and they wanted a statement trade.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Feb 17 @ 7:50 PM ET
I don’t think it’s comparable

Trading Eichel is basically giving up on an entire roster construction and totally starting over

Trading ROR was just a big name that wasn’t happy and they wanted a statement trade.

- sbroads24


The result will be the same. We look like idiots and we get some version of a tall, spinning idiot in return while Eichel wins a cup
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Feb 17 @ 7:50 PM ET
This is the same kind of thing people said about ROR. I will guarantee that an Eichel trade makes the Sabres look silly, and I will even offer 2:1 odds for you.
- jcragcrumple


I completely agree and with your last post.
Couple exceptions:

Housley got us dale hawerchuck
Pierre turgeon got us patty la la
Peerless price got us a 1st from Atlanta

At some point though, it's just not gonna work.

The pegula's aren't gonna quit the Sabres.

Someone would have to be buying into a losing product and purchasing land, restaurants and harbor centers as part of a deal.

Pandemic and live sporting teams = bad time to sell
TheHank
Location: Yawn.
Joined: 01.11.2017

Feb 17 @ 7:51 PM ET
I don’t think it’s comparable

Trading Eichel is basically giving up on an entire roster construction and totally starting over

Trading ROR was just a big name that wasn’t happy and they wanted a statement trade.

- sbroads24

what's your thought? I'm not so sure I'd trade him but this current roster construction is gawd awful. it's quite the conundrum.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Feb 17 @ 7:51 PM ET
I don't get why we are talking about ROR, he didn't want to be hear, we didn't get better while he was here.
TheHank
Location: Yawn.
Joined: 01.11.2017

Feb 17 @ 7:53 PM ET
I completely agree and with your last post.
Couple exceptions:

Housley got us dale hawerchuck
Pierre turgeon got us patty la la
Peerless price got us a 1st from Atlanta

At some point though, it's just not gonna work.

The pegula's aren't gonna quit the Sabres.

Someone would have to be buying into a losing product and purchasing land, restaurants and harbor centers as part of a deal.

Pandemic and live sporting teams = bad time to sell

- Boss34

apparently people with no previous business experience and little equitable holdings can get multiple business and property loans these days. might not be that hard after all.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Feb 17 @ 7:54 PM ET
I don't get why we are talking about ROR, he didn't want to be hear, we didn't get better while he was here.
- Buff36


The same bullpoop narratives are starting again: Eichel is a bad catholic and a worse leader and he doesn't want to be here and we're better off without him.

Time is a flat circle. Sabres fans run the good players out of town. Thats how you end up with Zemgus "bless his heart" Girgensons as top-10 in games played as a Sabre.
TheHank
Location: Yawn.
Joined: 01.11.2017

Feb 17 @ 7:54 PM ET
I don't get why we are talking about ROR, he didn't want to be hear, we didn't get better while he was here.
- Buff36

kinda sounds like jack.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Feb 17 @ 7:54 PM ET
apparently people with no previous business experience and little equitable holdings can get multiple business and property loans these days. might not be that hard after all.
- TheHank


🙉
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Feb 17 @ 7:55 PM ET
TheHank
Location: Yawn.
Joined: 01.11.2017

Feb 17 @ 7:56 PM ET

- homiedclown

I saw that
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Feb 17 @ 7:56 PM ET

- homiedclown



Right on time. You can lead the party to run Eichel out of town the way you shat on ROR.

Good luck to you all
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Feb 17 @ 7:57 PM ET
The result will be the same. We look like idiots and we get some version of a tall, spinning idiot in return while Eichel wins a cup
- jcragcrumple

I’m not sure that’s true though

If you’re moving Eichel you’re getting back a poop ton more than ROR and you’re hitting the reset button on an entire team basically.

If Eichel goes, You’re constructing a whole new team outside of Cozens, Dahlin, etc

It might actually have good results long term completely overhauling the roster

That being said id rather just get good with him
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Feb 17 @ 7:58 PM ET
The same bullpoop narratives are starting again: Eichel is a bad catholic and a worse leader and he doesn't want to be here and we're better off without him.

Time is a flat circle. Sabres fans run the good players out of town. Thats how you end up with Zemgus "bless his heart" Girgensons as top-10 in games played as a Sabre.

- jcragcrumple


What if you get last 10 games eichel for 6 more years?

And if anything: you should realize something is missing, possibly the 400 game locomotive and his center Larry 1
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Feb 17 @ 7:58 PM ET
what's your thought? I'm not so sure I'd trade him but this current roster construction is gawd awful. it's quite the conundrum.
- TheHank

I don’t want to. But I personally think it’s inevitable that it happens so I’m braces for it
TheHank
Location: Yawn.
Joined: 01.11.2017

Feb 17 @ 7:58 PM ET
I’m not sure that’s true though

If you’re moving Eichel you’re getting back a poop ton more than ROR and you’re hitting the reset button on an entire team basically.

If Eichel goes, You’re constructing a whole new team outside of Cozens, Dahlin, etc

It might actually have good results long term completely overhauling the roster

That being said id rather just get good with him

- sbroads24

well put.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Feb 17 @ 7:59 PM ET
Right on time. You can lead the party to run Eichel out of town the way you shat on ROR.

Good luck to you all

- jcragcrumple

I'd rather fire the coach
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Feb 17 @ 7:59 PM ET
The same bullpoop narratives are starting again: Eichel is a bad catholic and a worse leader and he doesn't want to be here and we're better off without him.

Time is a flat circle. Sabres fans run the good players out of town. Thats how you end up with Zemgus "bless his heart" Girgensons as top-10 in games played as a Sabre.

- jcragcrumple

But these things could absolutely both be true

If Eichel is traded there is no ROR package coming back

It’s going to be good roster players and teams #1 prospects like Byfield.

They’d more than likely have assets to totally redo the team
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Feb 17 @ 8:01 PM ET
The same bullpoop narratives are starting again: Eichel is a bad catholic and a worse leader and he doesn't want to be here and we're better off without him.

Time is a flat circle. Sabres fans run the good players out of town. Thats how you end up with Zemgus "bless his heart" Girgensons as top-10 in games played as a Sabre.

- jcragcrumple

I don't want to trade Jack, but if you're gonna blow it up, he will get you the most pieces. We as fans didn't make the team Sh!tty, that was on the team and multiple GM's. I'm sorry a 7mill dollar a year player can't take a little criticism from fans. Stop whining about I lost my Love for the game, and put on your big boy pants and help try to solve the problem instead of becoming one.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Feb 17 @ 8:03 PM ET
But these things could absolutely both be true

If Eichel is traded there is no ROR package coming back

It’s going to be good roster players and teams #1 prospects like Byfield.

They’d more than likely have assets to totally redo the team

- sbroads24

at a glance


I can't recall a trade of a player like jack given his age and term on contract that's been traded in forever
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