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Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

Jan 14 @ 7:06 PM ET
I get that, but he was a top line guy last year, why wouldn't you just put him up with Strome, he might be slow of foot, but he can pass the puck.

Kane can play with anyone. That Kane, Strome, Cat line never works anyway.

- vabeachbear


He was a top line guy last year with Saad and Toews who are no longer available. Wiz's description is likely right on. He is a great triggerman, but need someone else to road grade and/or set him up. He isn't going to create his own shot that often. Who is left on the team that can actually do that with consistency. Kane... ok then you still have the same problem of who else is going to score on that team.

I agree. Kane, Strome, and ADB are not great together. They bleed shots against and seem to be relatively easy to combat (although we are talking about TB here). They need 2-3 other guys to step up and actually contribute. Shaw has a chance (as he has done it before), Walmark seems quite adept at setting up guys, so there is a possible there. Suter is brand new, but is with him now and was known as a good set-up man. We'll see what shakes out when Soderberg starts playing.

I'll reiterate. There are a lack of true options.

One last thing... Kane can play with anyone, but not everyone can play with Kane. He's always going to be good because he can create his own shot with little help, and can find openings and be successful. The other guys on his line need to be able to think close to as fast as he can to put themselves in good position for chances. ADB has it, but I think the line is missing some heft. I still would like to see Shaw, or Soderberg center ADB and Kane to get more of that character on the ice.
Scott1977
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Yorkville, IL
Joined: 08.30.2012

Jan 14 @ 7:47 PM ET
He was a top line guy last year with Saad and Toews who are no longer available. Wiz's description is likely right on. He is a great triggerman, but need someone else to road grade and/or set him up. He isn't going to create his own shot that often. Who is left on the team that can actually do that with consistency. Kane... ok then you still have the same problem of who else is going to score on that team.

I agree. Kane, Strome, and ADB are not great together. They bleed shots against and seem to be relatively easy to combat (although we are talking about TB here). They need 2-3 other guys to step up and actually contribute. Shaw has a chance (as he has done it before), Walmark seems quite adept at setting up guys, so there is a possible there. Suter is brand new, but is with him now and was known as a good set-up man. We'll see what shakes out when Soderberg starts playing.

I'll reiterate. There are a lack of true options.

One last thing... Kane can play with anyone, but not everyone can play with Kane. He's always going to be good because he can create his own shot with little help, and can find openings and be successful. The other guys on his line need to be able to think close to as fast as he can to put themselves in good position for chances. ADB has it, but I think the line is missing some heft. I still would like to see Shaw, or Soderberg center ADB and Kane to get more of that character on the ice.

- Chunk

Like to see these lines imo:

Strome dcat shaw
Kubalik Soderbergh kane
Pirri wallmark janmark
Highmore kampf carpenter/ hagel
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Jan 14 @ 8:54 PM ET
I just turned on the Canes/Wings game, damn that’s a lot of red. Both teams are wearing red & white and the stands are covered with red too.
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Jan 14 @ 8:55 PM ET
Like to see these lines imo:

Strome dcat shaw
Kubalik Soderbergh kane
Pirri wallmark janmark
Highmore kampf carpenter/ hagel

- Scott1977



DeBrincat - Strome - Shaw
Kubalik - Suter - Kane
Soderberg - Wallmark - Janmark
Highmore - Kampf - Carpenter

Scott1977
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Yorkville, IL
Joined: 08.30.2012

Jan 14 @ 9:05 PM ET
DeBrincat - Strome - Shaw
Kubalik - Suter - Kane
Soderberg - Wallmark - Janmark
Highmore - Kampf - Carpenter


- DarthKane

Didn't know suter could play center ok those lines work.
Tatoo
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Montreal, QC
Joined: 12.17.2016

Jan 14 @ 9:19 PM ET
I like those lines
StLBravesFan
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2011

Jan 14 @ 9:46 PM ET
I just turned on the Canes/Wings game, damn that’s a lot of red. Both teams are wearing red & white and the stands are covered with red too.
- DarthKane

And ads on every one of the tarps the the cameras see.

Some teams may not want fans back - ad revenue might be better.
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Jan 14 @ 10:08 PM ET
DeBrincat - Strome - Shaw
Kubalik - Suter - Kane
Soderberg - Wallmark - Janmark
Highmore - Kampf - Carpenter


- DarthKane


For now i really don't believe it matters, the line up combos, as a coach i would have this team working on the defensive end of the game, until they get better at this they won't get better.

Keep it simple, protect the house, gain possession, work the puck 200 feet and just instill a consistent we didn't accomplish our goal until that puck ends up behind the opponents net consistently.
rpeters01
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 07.09.2016

Jan 14 @ 11:35 PM ET
He was a top line guy last year with Saad and Toews who are no longer available. Wiz's description is likely right on. He is a great triggerman, but need someone else to road grade and/or set him up. He isn't going to create his own shot that often. Who is left on the team that can actually do that with consistency. Kane... ok then you still have the same problem of who else is going to score on that team.

I agree. Kane, Strome, and ADB are not great together. They bleed shots against and seem to be relatively easy to combat (although we are talking about TB here). They need 2-3 other guys to step up and actually contribute. Shaw has a chance (as he has done it before), Walmark seems quite adept at setting up guys, so there is a possible there. Suter is brand new, but is with him now and was known as a good set-up man. We'll see what shakes out when Soderberg starts playing.

I'll reiterate. There are a lack of true options.

One last thing... Kane can play with anyone, but not everyone can play with Kane. He's always going to be good because he can create his own shot with little help, and can find openings and be successful. The other guys on his line need to be able to think close to as fast as he can to put themselves in good position for chances. ADB has it, but I think the line is missing some heft. I still would like to see Shaw, or Soderberg center ADB and Kane to get more of that character on the ice.

- Chunk

Top line on a bad team does not a top line guy make. Forget Vegas or Tampa or Colorado. Playing against 2013 Sharp Toews and Hossa he would have had his ass handed to him if he could catch up and let them do it. We seriously need to stop overrating our players and see them for who they really are.
jhawk59
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.15.2013

Jan 14 @ 11:40 PM ET
For now i really don't believe it matters, the line up combos, as a coach i would have this team working on the defensive end of the game, until they get better at this they won't get better.

Keep it simple, protect the house, gain possession, work the puck 200 feet and just instill a consistent we didn't accomplish our goal until that puck ends up behind the opponents net consistently.

- BetweenTheDots


I have been entertaining the idea below for a while
My rationale is to establish a number one scoring line and to take advantage of what giftedness exists. Whigh miget appear contradictory if you have Kane at center. But Kane just is not all he can be with any of our centers, both present and the injured pair. Meanwhike, both Kubalik and DeBrincat need to be atvthrir natural wing with someone who can feed them

So I would trade a prospect, maybe one of our many dmen or Murphy, for a legitimate boards winger. I am not concerned if the wing is not all that much a skill or point producer. Just be a willing and effective boards guy. Put this player at LW and DeBrincat RW with Kane as center. Replicate the roles of the old Trottier Bossy Gillies line. Although Kane is more pure wizardry than Trottier who was not as much pure skill guy. I have no use for Strome. He has to play aggressively as a 3L center/wing or dump him

Boqvist should spend most of the short AHL season working on defense then if he is playing wellhe is recalled last handful of games. I give Carlsson and Beaudin agood look in Boqvist absence. I am concered about Colliton's system, defensively that is, particularly the dmen wander too much chasing their man. Maybe the ideal brain smart system relies too much on perfect execution
The ststrm doesn't work in practice as well as it looks on paper or in theory. I am no judge to compare various systems. But I do not trust Colliton's defense schemes are practical (enough).

If you want to fix what ails the team the entire season, these are the moves i consider. Anyone like my ideas?
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Jan 14 @ 11:42 PM ET
Arizona misses a 2-0 in OT then takes a penalty.
ChicagoHope
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Lyndon, IL
Joined: 08.13.2007

Jan 15 @ 12:01 AM ET
Long ways from the good old days of 1,000 posts!! Cannot even get to 200, oh how we have fallen!! Need to be more realistic and positive, but damn this is going to be tough watching AHL goaltending and a lineup that will be lucky to score 2 goals per game. Need to stay positive and hope players do develop!!
Brownie's_Purse
Location: Kenosha, WI
Joined: 01.22.2018

Jan 15 @ 12:13 AM ET
Long ways from the good old days of 1,000 posts!! Cannot even get to 200, oh how we have fallen!! Need to be more realistic and positive, but damn this is going to be tough watching AHL goaltending and a lineup that will be lucky to score 2 goals per game. Need to stay positive and hope players do develop!!
- ChicagoHope


Let's turn this in the Blue Line, or even the comeback Committed Indian. Let's talk about why they both went away. I'm sure that story is more riveting than this seasons Cold Steel On Ice.
jhawk59
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.15.2013

Jan 15 @ 12:49 AM ET
Let's turn this in the Blue Line, or even the comeback Committed Indian. Let's talk about why they both went away. I'm sure that story is more riveting than this seasons Cold Steel On Ice.
- Brownie's_Purse

JJ often left his blog run longer-term so more blog entries.

Truthfuly since JJ both Tyler and Theo have good response.
boilermaker100
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.23.2015

Jan 15 @ 12:59 AM ET
Long ways from the good old days of 1,000 posts!! Cannot even get to 200, oh how we have fallen!! Need to be more realistic and positive, but damn this is going to be tough watching AHL goaltending and a lineup that will be lucky to score 2 goals per game. Need to stay positive and hope players do develop!!
- ChicagoHope


We can always talk about state taxes to boost the comment total. Speaking of which the Hawks players will be bringing home a bigger check this month with the 4 Florida games not being taxed.
just69sayin
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: chicago
Joined: 11.15.2014

Jan 15 @ 1:51 AM ET
Back to what I was trying tom say about Kubalik...


to me, his upside dream scenario is to be Mike Hoffman.

Hoffman doesn't make a difference in two zones (IMO) and is a shot.

He is better when he is playing with guys who can get the biscuit to him.

- wiz1901

That's every offensive' players dream scenario. From what I've seen, Kubalik is a player who will sprint to loose pucks in corners and make tough plays behind the goal line, when the other team's defensemen are about to crush him, yet he can make the play. He's not a guy that loafs around and waits for pucks
pdx2ord
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Portland, OR
Joined: 09.02.2015

Jan 15 @ 3:43 AM ET
Podcast for that? id like to hear that
- glennjpawlak22



https://podcasts.apple.co...112425552?i=1000490332392

Theo Fox
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.18.2016

Jan 15 @ 4:27 AM ET
New blog! A preview to the Blackhawks second game of the season versus the Lightning and a look at how the team can improve upon the season opener.

http://bit.ly/3qs8aC1
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Jan 15 @ 5:08 AM ET
I have been entertaining the idea below for a while
My rationale is to establish a number one scoring line and to take advantage of what giftedness exists. Whigh miget appear contradictory if you have Kane at center. But Kane just is not all he can be with any of our centers, both present and the injured pair. Meanwhike, both Kubalik and DeBrincat need to be atvthrir natural wing with someone who can feed them

So I would trade a prospect, maybe one of our many dmen or Murphy, for a legitimate boards winger. I am not concerned if the wing is not all that much a skill or point producer. Just be a willing and effective boards guy. Put this player at LW and DeBrincat RW with Kane as center. Replicate the roles of the old Trottier Bossy Gillies line. Although Kane is more pure wizardry than Trottier who was not as much pure skill guy. I have no use for Strome. He has to play aggressively as a 3L center/wing or dump him

Boqvist should spend most of the short AHL season working on defense then if he is playing wellhe is recalled last handful of games. I give Carlsson and Beaudin agood look in Boqvist absence. I am concered about Colliton's system, defensively that is, particularly the dmen wander too much chasing their man. Maybe the ideal brain smart system relies too much on perfect execution
The ststrm doesn't work in practice as well as it looks on paper or in theory. I am no judge to compare various systems. But I do not trust Colliton's defense schemes are practical (enough).

If you want to fix what ails the team the entire season, these are the moves i consider. Anyone like my ideas?

- jhawk59


I would not do any of this. First, moving Kane to center was tried, oh I don’t remember how many years ago, and it doesn’t work. He also hates playing center, and prefers right wing, he has stated that numerous times.

Second. The Hawks should not be trading prospects, they should be trading for prospects. Who cares about finding a center this year for Kane when you have Dach and Toews (hopefully) back next season?

This is supposed to be a rebuilding/evaluation season. Making panic decisions after one game is not evaluating.

Stan had the zoom call with the core. They know what is happening. None has demanded a trade, and I highly doubt they will. I am sure they remember guys like Kimmo Tinnomin, and now Joe Thornton that have played how many years before winning or are chasing a cup..
6628
Joined: 08.24.2009

Jan 15 @ 9:39 AM ET
For now i really don't believe it matters, the line up combos, as a coach i would have this team working on the defensive end of the game, until they get better at this they won't get better.

Keep it simple, protect the house, gain possession, work the puck 200 feet and just instill a consistent we didn't accomplish our goal until that puck ends up behind the opponents net consistently.

- BetweenTheDots



They never do that, drives me nuts. They never did it in Quenville's era either. Imo that's the main reason Crawford got abused like he did.
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