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PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Jan 10 @ 2:01 PM ET
What happened to Ek's thread of today?

https://www.hockeybuzz.co...0078&forum_id=1&page=last
arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Jan 10 @ 2:03 PM ET
Man we have a loaded top 9. What a sight.
Pelle31Forever
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.20.2014

Jan 10 @ 2:11 PM ET
In response to Dave Brown I see what you're saying but let's give Fletcher the same length in office as Hextall then we can compare.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Jan 10 @ 2:27 PM ET
In response to Dave Brown I see what you're saying but let's give Fletcher the same length in office as Hextall then we can compare.
- Pelle31Forever

What has Fletcher done that we would miss hextall? Fletcher has done a great job with this team. He hasn’t sold the farm and his signings have been great. No one could have known Nisky would retire. Braun is what he is, overpaid but it doesn’t matter.
Sublime55
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.24.2012

Jan 10 @ 2:53 PM ET
Has anyone seen a price for the Center Ice Package yet ? I am hoping they don't charge full price for an abbreviated season....The NHLTV package is $99 but we are not making the tech switch from the cablesnake to all streaming right now. TIA!
- RajaAmpat


They’re charging me $63 for the season (just Flyers games though). I think that’s about what I paid last year, so I doesn’t look like they’re prorating for the shortened season.
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Jan 10 @ 3:05 PM ET
I don’t think JvR has been a mistake. I don’t think he’s been used properly. Signing a proven goal scorer and placing him on the third line, while offering second unit PP unit is a mistake. Had JvR not got hurt his first season back as a Flyer, JvR would have scored 30 plus easily. We need a legitimate presence around the net.

I’ve said since Hayes was signed that I think he’s the guy that hurts the line up long term. I stand by this. As long as Sean Couturier, Nolan Patrick and Kevin Hayes are in this line up, Morgan Frost has a tough hill the climb.

JvR will always be the easy target but at some point JvR, Voracek and Giroux are all going to have to go. The problem is, G and Jake will likely get to go out on their own terms if they’re decently productive.

- SuperSchennBros


Again, JVR's career-high goal season in Toronto came with him on the third line at ES. It's the PP time, not his ES line, that is the key.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jan 10 @ 4:07 PM ET
as a 2nd overall pick he has to be key to the team's success otherwise he's a bust
- 2Real



Heeey that's great!
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jan 10 @ 4:08 PM ET
What happened to Ek's thread of today?

https://www.hockeybuzz.co...0078&forum_id=1&page=last

- PT21



Just saw the same thing. It must have really gone off the rails lol
Peter Richards
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Jan 10 @ 4:34 PM ET
Has anyone seen a price for the Center Ice Package yet ? I am hoping they don't charge full price for an abbreviated season....The NHLTV package is $99 but we are not making the tech switch from the cablesnake to all streaming right now. TIA!
- RajaAmpat


99.99


RajaAmpat
Joined: 12.16.2018

Jan 10 @ 4:35 PM ET
They’re charging me $63 for the season (just Flyers games though). I think that’s about what I paid last year, so I doesn’t look like they’re prorating for the shortened season.
- Sublime55


Thanks for the info...We are getting the Comcast Sports Channels that carry the Flyers games and have the NHL Network with our current triple play.. I used to get the Center Ice pkg. so we could get HNIC on Saturday night which was always fun but then they were giving their early game on the NHL Network.. they were putting other NHL games on the Comcast Channels and the NHL Network was giving some as well on weeknights..having gotten hooked on Brit detective shows the last 9 months am spending some time daily on Acorn/Masterpiece Theater...the eyeballs can only take so much screen time..
RajaAmpat
Joined: 12.16.2018

Jan 10 @ 4:36 PM ET
99.99
- Peter Richards


Thank you!
Peter Richards
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Jan 10 @ 4:53 PM ET
Thank you!
- RajaAmpat

Single team package is 10 bucks cheaper. 10 dollars is worth the rivalries you will see this year.
Dkos
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gritty, PA
Joined: 01.15.2007

Jan 10 @ 5:02 PM ET
Thanks for the info...We are getting the Comcast Sports Channels that carry the Flyers games and have the NHL Network with our current triple play.. I used to get the Center Ice pkg. so we could get HNIC on Saturday night which was always fun but then they were giving their early game on the NHL Network.. they were putting other NHL games on the Comcast Channels and the NHL Network was giving some as well on weeknights..having gotten hooked on Brit detective shows the last 9 months am spending some time daily on Acorn/Masterpiece Theater...the eyeballs can only take so much screen time..
- RajaAmpat

My wife and I are also hooked on the Brit detective shows. I think we’ve worked our way through everything good on Masterpiece, Netflix and Amazon. Been thinking about getting Acorn. Now that hockey is starting up again I guess it can wait until the season is over.
FlyersFanInPhoenix
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Joined: 10.31.2020

Jan 10 @ 5:05 PM ET
Is the livestream available outside of the Philly area?
biggbear77
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.14.2019

Jan 10 @ 5:07 PM ET
If we stay healthy we have one of the deepest pools of 20ish goal soring forwards (12)in the NHL. The return of Oscar and NoPa was key, and not unlikely, and will make this team formidable even without any true elite players. Its also the reason Fletch didnt heed the relentless consternation from fans begging for top 6 forward acquisition activity.
Assuming we lose a couple of forwards to injury during the season, we need Allison, Frost, Laczynski, and Sundin to step up and play to professional levels. I am not certain of the lines and their chemistry levels, thats a job for the coaches, not the fans. Let's hope the team stays relatively healthy in 2021, esp our goalies, where depth there is suboptimal despite many draft picks in past 6 years.
However, if the recoveries from NoPa and Oscar get thwarted and we suffer other injuries, we will prob need reinforcements from outside the organization. One would expect to lose some assets at that point.
Lets wish the boys a happy, healthy, and very hockey prosperous 2021!
It would be nice to get a moment with the Cup someplace around town this summer.
Djapana
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Sunset Dreaming, FL
Joined: 09.16.2017

Jan 10 @ 5:54 PM ET
What has Fletcher done that we would miss hextall? Fletcher has done a great job with this team. He hasn’t sold the farm and his signings have been great. No one could have known Nisky would retire. Braun is what he is, overpaid but it doesn’t matter.
- ClaudeFather


Braun “overpaid” at 1.8m seems paltry compared to the Hextall contracts, Voracek 8.25m, JVR 7m and Ghost 4.5m.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jan 10 @ 6:17 PM ET
Again, JVR's career-high goal season in Toronto came with him on the third line at ES. It's the PP time, not his ES line, that is the key.
- bmeltzer

Bill, this is bullpoop. Absolute bullpoop. You’re selling bullpoop.

James van Riemsdyk and Tyler Bozak were the top line for years next to Phil Kessel and were only moved back to the “third line” due to the drafting of Austin Matthews. When JvR reached that career high, Mitch Marner was their RW. You tell me who JvR played with on the third line last season who plays at a Marner level. This is the same tired argument and it’s misleading.
Bayareaflyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.10.2008

Jan 10 @ 6:18 PM ET
live stream of the game:

http://onhockey.tv/

Listing is on the left and will become active about 20 minutes or so before game time.

- meduser


For me the scrimmage was removed from the listing which was displayed earlier
five4fighting10
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Cherry Hill, NJ
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jan 10 @ 6:45 PM ET
Bill, this is bullpoop. Absolute bullpoop. You’re selling bullpoop.

James van Riemsdyk and Tyler Bozak were the top line for years next to Phil Kessel and were only moved back to the “third line” due to the drafting of Austin Matthews. When JvR reached that career high, Mitch Marner was their RW. You tell me who JvR played with on the third line last season who plays at a Marner level. This is the same tired argument and it’s misleading.

- SuperSchennBros

8th in ES TOI that season for the Leafs (among forwards) but led them in PP TOI.
Sublime55
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.24.2012

Jan 10 @ 6:54 PM ET
Just saw the same thing. It must have really gone off the rails lol
- MBFlyerfan


Tanner graced everyone with his presence yesterday and went full-on Tanner. It was a shizzshow. As an aside, he did admit that he was fired...shocker. How he still has an account on here is beyond me.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jan 10 @ 6:57 PM ET
8th in ES TOI that season for the Leafs (among forwards) but led them in PP TOI.
- five4fighting10

What does this even mean?
therabbi
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ann Arbor, MI
Joined: 10.14.2020

Jan 10 @ 7:03 PM ET
Hextall signed JvR and Elliott but I guess you mean drafted players.


A colossally bad signing. I've read the stuff about how JvR is a great student of the game (and likely wants to become a coach) and how "he's gonna give you 25 goals guaranteed" but I'm with coach in the benchings. He had it easy in Toronto and should have been much better there. I was out of my mind at that signing in the cap era. He topped out in Toronto, no upside to mine.

I was reading the latest article on Briere. Loved him as a Flyer but it reminded me of his original signing, when Homer explained later that he put out the same offer to Drury and Briere to make sure he got one of them, but he didn't care a lot which. Can you imagine if we had gotten Drury instead at the same long massive contract?
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Jan 10 @ 7:04 PM ET
What does this even mean?
- SuperSchennBros


It means essentially that he played 3rd line minutes (wherever he played, whoever he played with). However was clearly seen as a pp weapon.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jan 10 @ 7:06 PM ET
It means essentially that he played 3rd line minutes (wherever he played, whoever he played with). However was clearly seen as a pp weapon.
- PT21

So what’s more important? The minutes you get or the talent you play with? If Crosby in his prime plays third line minutes, is he less likely to be great?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 10 @ 7:08 PM ET
A colossally bad signing. I've read the stuff about how JvR is a great student of the game (and likely wants to become a coach) and how "he's gonna give you 25 goals guaranteed" but I'm with coach in the benchings. He had it easy in Toronto and should have been much better there. I was out of my mind at that signing in the cap era. He topped out in Toronto, no upside to mine.

I was reading the latest article on Briere. Loved him as a Flyer but it reminded me of his original signing, when Homer explained later that he put out the same offer to Drury and Briere to make sure he got one of them, but he didn't care a lot which. Can you imagine if we had gotten Drury instead at the same long massive contract?

- therabbi



19/20 points at 5 on 5

Couturier 39
Voracek 36
Konecny 33
JVR 30
Giroux 26
Hayes 24

19/20 Goals at 5 on 5
Konecny 18
Couturier 15
JVR 15
Laughton 12
Hayes 12
Giroux 11
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