This is technically untrue since as you point out it is currently most/all of the current women in broadcasting as you put it...1:1. But let’s not be petty and get to the point of what you have said.

If the goal is to actually hire fairly based on talent and knowledge, this wouldn’t work. If the goal is simply to have top candidates that are higher quality, then okay. Perhaps over time some astute employer would recognize that their highest scoring candidates in the blind auditions are not hired because of age, appearance, background or voice type. Over time, one might see a pattern. Possible glacial approach.
- NC Flyers Fan

Sorry, I don't understand. 1:1 is a the purest definition of a monopoly.

What are you talking about re 2nd bold?

The first anonymous audition would be an expression of talent alone. If you want to incorporate knowledge as well, simply add in a test.

Consider how places like McKinsey hire people. HR makes the first cut. Junior employees do the first interview. Mid level employees do the second. A dinner with partners is the final interview. In each case, those who see the remaining pool that is passing the previous screening have no role in the previous screening.

It won't be glacial. It will change things in a few years.

However, it is too radical for practicality.

But you did ask me what *I* was advocating.

Too deep for you, my man?
- PT21

not even close. one of the dumbest things i've read in a while.

I don't mean to be over-dramatic, but let me ask you this. Assuming you watched the US semifinal against Finland and the final against Canada, can you honestly say Brink was a factor in either game, especially in the 3rd period when the game was tight? Besides that one blocked shot in the 3rd last night, he was absent from what I watched. Maybe this is the brilliance of his game, but when I did notice him he was chasing the play and looked awful doing so. I saw no offense from him or his line what-so-ever in either game. I also think his minutes were very limited as each game got down to crunch-time. This does not bode well for a top prospect.
Compare this to York. When the game was on the line, York was on the ice. This speaks volumes to me. For the Flyers sake, I wanted Brink to be the best player on the ice, but as I stated I just don't see it. I guess time will tell.
- jd250

My answer is yes. He was a factor. He did his job and they won. He was on the ice last night in the last 4 mins of play. There are times that are noticeable that he isn’t the fastest. But he set up multiple chances. Created turnovers. Won a lot of board battles. Blocked shots. Rewatch. The first period alone on one sequence. He was the reason they kept the zone multiple times.

So true.
- NC Flyers Fan

My dear man, if you were capable of anything beyond the daft but undoubtedly endearing optimism you constantly embody, you would see it does not in any way penalize women who have "worked hard for their dreams" and other such fatuous banalities.

When I said that 10 min audition, etc, of course I did not mean that resumes should be irrelevant. Nor did I say they should be able to speak English, and not have a terminal cancer diagnosis. Some things should not need to be said.

I merely came up with a scheme that takes the visual and the ethnic accents out of the equation in the first round. Resumes will introduce age and experience but age discrimination is very hard to prove. Anyway, let the resumes play a role in the 2nd round. Or, have them do a test that will incorporate knowledge/experience.

Could the discrimination recur in the 2nd/3rd round? Sure. But by then the playing field will be 'leveler', even if not fully level.

not even close. one of the dumbest things i've read in a while.
- Ftown19125

Fine, then tell me why it is dumb.

Are you guys following the miracle going on GA?

Here is a tweet from a guy who is never wrong

https://twitter.com/Redis...tatus/1346647684900417536
- PT21

Aaand its over:

https://twitter.com/Redis...tatus/1346859120083824644

Patrick Thoresen just asked me to hold his beer.

- hockeylover

I have his broken "balls" on my hockey wall.

Aaand its over:

https://twitter.com/Redis...tatus/1346859120083824644
- PT21

I plan on treating the new President and his voters exactly the way the previous President and his followers were treated.

Fine, then tell me why it is dumb.
- PT21

you don't think the way someone speaks/the way their voice sounds plays a part in why a lot of people are hired to be in sports broadcasting, especially in radio?

I plan on treating the new President and his voters exactly the way the previous President and his followers were treated.
- MBFlyerfan

By following hockey and ignoring facts and living in your alt reality?

I would expect nothing less from you.

Movin' to the country, gonna eat me a lotta peaches.

you don't think the way someone speaks/the way their voice sounds plays a part in why a lot of people are hired to be in sports broadcasting, especially in radio?
- Ftown19125

Did you get the part that there was to be a second screening with that element incorporated?

you don't think the way someone speaks/the way their voice sounds plays a part in why a lot of people are hired to be in sports broadcasting, especially in radio?
- Ftown19125

I know for a fact it is the main criteria.

today, could be the group


Lindblom-Couturier-Konecny
Giroux-Hayes-Farabee
van Riemsdyk-Patrick-Voracek
Raffl-Laughton-Aube-Kubel

Provorov-Gostisbehere
Sanheim-Myers
Hagg-Gustafsson
Zamula-Braun

By following hockey and ignoring facts and living in your alt reality?

I would expect nothing less from you.
- PT21

Whatever Sheldon. The thing is with people like you, your "facts" are anything but. You are just a tool who eats whatever you are fed. You spend the whole day getting punched in the face by these people and stand there trying to convince us you were headbutting their fist the whole time.

Enjoy being in control, that enjoyment wont last because now its going to be a lot harder to blame the other side for your problems. Though I am sure you will try.

Amen, or awomen, or whatever it is you pseudo intellectual clowns think is the most pandering word you can think of.

Did you get the part that there was to be a second screening with that element incorporated?
- PT21

i did. but by that point you already eliminated some people with the qualities you were looking for.

it's also just ridiculous anyway. companies hire the entire package. the way you look/speak is part of it and shouldn't be eliminated during the hiring process.

If Brink turns out to be a reliable top 9 NHL forward in a couple of years that is good value for a 2nd round pick. This has nothing to do with confirmation bias. I just watch the kid play and comment on what I see. And in my opinion he does not have the skating ability needed to be a reliable NHL forward. Time will confirm or disprove my opinion, but nothing I saw last night or the prior night changed my perspective of this prospect, whereas what I saw from York in the semi-final and final did. I now believe York in a few years will be a top 4 NHL D and possibly even a top 2 NHL D, which is great value for a 1st round pick in the teens.
- jd250

How confirmation bias is involved is that part of his scouting report is his skating deficiency. You see what you want to see, not what is actually there. How can you explain that you think his skating is really poor and he can't keep up with the play yet others watch the same player and don't see that? An NHL team used a 2nd round pick on a player who can't keep up with the play at the junior level?

Fair enough. Fair enough.

I did not watch, so really cannot in good faith argue.

The gentleman has been blowing that bugle for a few days now, so I just wanted to see how credible others consider it, especially guys like you and Landros 2 and others who understand junior hockey (I don't).
- PT21

Not understanding other things hasn't stopped you from commenting.

I don't mean to be over-dramatic, but let me ask you this. Assuming you watched the US semifinal against Finland and the final against Canada, can you honestly say Brink was a factor in either game, especially in the 3rd period when the game was tight? Besides that one blocked shot in the 3rd last night, he was absent from what I watched. Maybe this is the brilliance of his game, but when I did notice him he was chasing the play and looked awful doing so. I saw no offense from him or his line what-so-ever in either game. I also think his minutes were very limited as each game got down to crunch-time. This does not bode well for a top prospect.
Compare this to York. When the game was on the line, York was on the ice. This speaks volumes to me. For the Flyers sake, I wanted Brink to be the best player on the ice, but as I stated I just don't see it. I guess time will tell.
- jd250

I can only comment on last night but I noticed him during the game and in crunch time. Yes I did see where he ran out of gas and see the need to keep working on his skating but I think you should watch again to be fair to Brink

i did. but by that point you already eliminated some people with the qualities you were looking for.

it's also just ridiculous anyway. companies hire the entire package. the way you look/speak is part of it and shouldn't be eliminated during the hiring process.
- Ftown19125

You keep critiquing things that are not part of what I mentioned. The blind audition is not the only test. If you like, make HR cull first, then do the blind audition for the 10-20 selected, then interview ALL of them, then add the scores.

Or, have a 2nd audition, also anonymous, with just voice.

Companies do hire the entire package, yes, but you might be missing the point of the whole exercise here, which is to add scrutiny to exactly what they consider to be part of the "package" and why.

This is technically untrue since as you point out it is currently most/all of the current women in broadcasting as you put it...1:1. But let’s not be petty and get to the point of what you have said.

If the goal is to actually hire fairly based on talent and knowledge, this wouldn’t work. If the goal is simply to have top candidates that are higher quality, then okay. Perhaps over time some astute employer would recognize that their highest scoring candidates in the blind auditions are not hired because of age, appearance, background or voice type. Over time, one might see a pattern. Possible glacial approach.
- NC Flyers Fan

this stuff, geez we need hockey back . Companies are in business for profit. They have an audience to sell too, the have their product and they make decisions to be successful and earn. If tomorrow the customer wants 7 foot leprechauns to do play by play that is what will happen. sure they might try things but in the end the PNL bottom line will win.

You keep critiquing things that are not part of what I mentioned. The blind audition is not the only test. If you like, make HR cull first, then do the blind audition for the 10-20 selected, then interview ALL of them, then add the scores.

Or, have a 2nd audition, also anonymous, with just voice.

Companies do hire the entire package, yes, but you might be missing the point of the whole exercise here, which is to add scrutiny to exactly what they consider to be part of the "package" and why.
- PT21

It's amazing that in your own post here in your own words, you discredit your own premise. That despite claiming repeatedly to be a scholar and academic that you don't get how you argue against yourself. That you think that how a person looks and speaks shouldn't be part of the package! You haven't and can't make a case for why certain qualities should not be part of the package. It's just liberal bullpoop.

You keep critiquing things that are not part of what I mentioned. The blind audition is not the only test. If you like, make HR cull first, then do the blind audition for the 10-20 selected, then interview ALL of them, then add the scores.

Or, have a 2nd audition, also anonymous, with just voice.

Companies do hire the entire package, yes, but you might be missing the point of the whole exercise here, which is to add scrutiny to exactly what they consider to be part of the "package" and why.
- PT21

i critiqued where you said to take out appearance and the way someone sounds in the first part of the interview. i thought that was completely ridiculous. still do.

Peaches come from a can;
they were put there by a man;
in a factory downtown.

Peaches come from a can;
they were put there by a man;
in a factory downtown.
- countreeman28

Grapes of Wrath?