I see Laughton coming in at 3.5aav or thereabouts.

As MJL said, he isnt the kind of player that will command huge dollars in free agency because he doesn't put up huge numbers....and that is what drives salary. He is however, the kind of player that is really important to your roster, the kind where you say he is more important to your team than he may be to someone else's.
- MBFlyerfan

That is where we disagree as I do not see him being really important.

That is where we disagree as I do not see him being really important.
- Striiker

He is a two way player who can play center or wing. He can play in a checking role or on a scoring line. He can play on the PK. He can provide secondary scoring all at a reasonable cap hit. Those kind of all around player sare immensely important to a team who has championship aspirations.

He is a two way player who can play center or wing. He can play in a checking role or on a scoring line. He can play on the PK. He can provide secondary scoring all at a reasonable cap hit. Those kind of all around player sare immensely important to a team who has championship aspirations.
- MJL

Love what he brings but like I said earlier how much can you pay a bottom 6 guy like that? I’d think we are looking at guys like NAK and maybe Bunnaman to fill that type of role moving forward. I’d like to keep Laughts but I have not done enough homework to see what the cap Situation is or will be. Seattle throws a wrench in this as well, tough to see now. I’d like him resigned.

He is a two way player who can play center or wing. He can play in a checking role or on a scoring line. He can play on the PK. He can provide secondary scoring all at a reasonable cap hit. Those kind of all around player sare immensely important to a team who has championship aspirations.
- MJL

If you look at his development I don't think it would be to dissimilar for any other bottom 6 prospect coming up, it took years for Laughton to get where he is today. You have to consider replacement cost and replacement value. Laughton is way past the point of being replaced by a prospect. In that scenario you would be good with replacement cost but not value, for a team wanting to compete for the cup that is not acceptable

He is a two way player who can play center or wing. He can play in a checking role or on a scoring line. He can play on the PK. He can provide secondary scoring all at a reasonable cap hit. Those kind of all around player sare immensely important to a team who has championship aspirations.
- MJL

You are overrating what he brings to the table imo. He doesn't do anything particular well. Don't see him being vital to their championship aspirations.

I would love to get Dubois out of Clb
- KINGKENZO

I really like Dubois, a legit top 2 center. Schenn cost St Louis 2 #1s and a salary dump. I’m thinking Dubois would cost about the same. I don’t think the Flyers go there.

I responded in the other thread as well, but it looks like they have Elliott, Raffl, Gus coming off. Then the buyout cap hit from AMAC and Schlemko. That total was about 8.6M after this season.
- Ftown19125

Oh, that’s beautiful.

I’m guessing you’re being sarcastic here.
- Djapana

I don't think is is a straight up trade and the Flyers have to add a 2nd or 3rd to make it happen, but I am talking about a hockey trade that gives both guys another chance. Columbus has lost some of the leverage since he wants out, but he is still a RFA when this contract is up.

Flyers don't need to move anyone to have Frost in the lineup.
- MJL

They don’t have to move anyone but where does he fit in the line up where he gets the absolute best opportunity to show what he can do?

He is a two way player who can play center or wing. He can play in a checking role or on a scoring line. He can play on the PK. He can provide secondary scoring all at a reasonable cap hit. Those kind of all around player sare immensely important to a team who has championship aspirations.
- MJL

He has also improved each year. I don’t think he’s the new raffl. I think NAK is. Agree with whoever said around 3.5.

You are overrating what he brings to the table imo. He doesn't do anything particular well. Don't see him being vital to their championship aspirations.
- Striiker

I think you are underrating what he brings. He was one o go out most consistent players last year.

I don't think is is a straight up trade and the Flyers have to add a 2nd or 3rd to make it happen, but I am talking about a hockey trade that gives both guys another chance. Columbus has lost some of the leverage since he wants out, but he is still a RFA when this contract is up.
- JW98FlyerFan

IMO I think you are severely overvaluing Ghost as a player and ignoring his albatross contract..

Love what he brings but like I said earlier how much can you pay a bottom 6 guy like that? I’d think we are looking at guys like NAK and maybe Bunnaman to fill that type of role moving forward. I’d like to keep Laughts but I have not done enough homework to see what the cap Situation is or will be. Seattle throws a wrench in this as well, tough to see now. I’d like him resigned.
- ClaudeFather

If you have a cheaper player who can replace a player and give the same thing then by all means. Look at the best teams in the league. What do they play quality 3rd line players? What happens when you get a significant injury to a top 6 player?

You are overrating what he brings to the table imo. He doesn't do anything particular well. Don't see him being vital to their championship aspirations.
- Striiker

I disagree. He does a lot of things well.

If you have a cheaper player who can replace a player and give the same thing then by all means. Look at the best teams in the league. What do they play quality 3rd line players? What happens when you get a significant injury to a top 6 player?
- MJL

They don’t get paid that much, look at the Caps and Penguins when they won. Laughton is not a guy that’s going to be filling in a top 6 with guys like Frost / Patrick / Lindblom all on the team moving forward. It’s fine if he’s the one guy that is being paid in the bottom 6 but that’s not likely how our cap plays out.

My question just became, why is Oskar Lindblom a more important piece then Scott Laughton? Laughton can play center or wing, while Lindblom only plays wing. Prior to the Covid season, Laughton and Lindblom both played the entire season for the most part. Lindblom 33 points in 81 games, Laughton 32 points in 82 games. Laughton is 26. Lindblom is 24.

My question just became, why is Oskar Lindblom a more important piece then Scott Laughton? Laughton can play center or wing, while Laughton only plays wing. Prior to the Covid season, Laughton and Lindblom both played the entire season for the most part. Lindblom 33 points in 81 games, Laughton 32 points in 82 games. Laughton is 26. Lindblom is 24.
- SuperSchennBros

Did you forget the part when Lindblom was leading the team in goals and then got cancer? Kind of a big thing in a progression of a player, one guy is what he is and the other guy was taking a step forward.

They don’t get paid that much, look at the Caps and Penguins when they won. Laughton is not a guy that’s going to be filling in a top 6 with guys like Frost / Patrick / Lindblom all on the team moving forward. It’s fine if he’s the one guy that is being paid in the bottom 6 but that’s not likely how our cap plays out.
- ClaudeFather

Like I said, try taking a look at what good players are paid on the 3rd line on top teams. TB just signed Cirrelli for 4+M cap hit.

He is a two way player who can play center or wing. He can play in a checking role or on a scoring line. He can play on the PK. He can provide secondary scoring all at a reasonable cap hit. Those kind of all around player sare immensely important to a team who has championship aspirations.
- MJL

To me Laughton feels like the kind of player that scores that OT goal to win the Cup for a team, he just has that intangible that is hard to define but as MJL states is critical to winning a championship.

Did you forget the part when Lindblom was leading the team in goals and then got cancer? Kind of a big thing in a progression of a player, one guy is what he is and the other guy was taking a step forward.
- ClaudeFather

At the start of most seasons, a lot of surprise players have strong starts. They don’t always end that way.

Like I said, try taking a look at what good players are paid on the 3rd line on top teams. TB just signed Cirrelli for 4+M cap hit.
- MJL

Tampa bay also had the luxury of underpaying star guys due to taxes. We also have JVR $7M man on the third line.

At the start of most seasons, a lot of surprise players have strong starts. They don’t always end that way.
- SuperSchennBros

You asked a really dumb question.

IMO I think you are severely overvaluing Ghost as a player and ignoring his albatross contract..
- Djapana

Maybe so, but I also don't think ghost is as bad as everyone says. He looked good when he came back from his last surgery. With a full'ish offseason his contract doesn't look bad if he is getting pucks on net and potting a few as well. He will never be a shut down D-man, but that is not what he should be asked to do..He needs to be able to bring the puck out quickly and he does that part very when when his wheels are working.

My only thought on this whole thing was that Columbus may be looking at trade options and Ghost would be someone who could be moved, even as part of a package, that could benefit both teams/players.

At the start of most seasons, a lot of surprise players have strong starts. They don’t always end that way.
- SuperSchennBros

I see what you're saying kind of, but Laughton has been playing for parts of 6-7 seasons. Lindblom only parts of 3. Not to mention Lindblom has the higher ceiling from an offensive/goal scoring standpoint.

That's not to say that I don't think there is still more there offensively from Laughton, though. Every season he has quite a few games where he flashes some skill that I didn't know he was capable of. He keeps getting better.

I see what you're saying kind of, but Laughton has been playing for parts of 6-7 seasons. Lindblom only parts of 3. Not to mention Lindblom has the higher ceiling from an offensive/goal scoring standpoint.

That's not to say that I don't think there is still more there offensively from Laughton, though. Every season he has quite a few games where he flashes some skill that I didn't know he was capable of. He keeps getting better.
- Ftown19125

It’s pretty clear Lindblom was on his way to a career year and is going to be looked at as a key part of the offense and is also a great two hundred foot player himself.