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madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Jan 4 @ 8:02 PM ET
I do worry about Sid being able to elevate his wingers like he used to as he ages and inevitably declines. People are talking about Kap being the new Dupuis, but frankly I think we need a new Kunitz to balance having Guentzel on the other wing. Not sure if he's up to that role. Although he's not as much of a point producer, a guy like Fast might have been better suited for that role. Of course, the speed game through the neutral zone should be good.
- Hockey66


I'd wouldn't mind seeing Zucker on the 1st.
Hockey66
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.05.2019

Jan 4 @ 8:22 PM ET
I'd wouldn't mind seeing Zucker on the 1st.
- madmike71

I was thinking Rust just in terms of handedness and position opposite Guentzel, who seems like a perfect fit for Crosby. But hopefully Sully will experiment and then give the experiment time.
Hockey66
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.05.2019

Jan 4 @ 8:23 PM ET
Guentz doesn't need any elevating he carries his own weight and then some. He actually takes some load off of Sid. And Sid can still play the game at a high level. However I'm not sure about Kap, we'll just have to see how he does. But I will agree that Sid at this age shouldn't have an absolute scrub on the opposite side of Guentz.
- 668710

Ehhh...I wouldn't say he generates much on his own and he is certainly not a puck or board battler. Great scorer and a smart player, though.
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jan 4 @ 8:33 PM ET
Ehhh...I wouldn't say he generates much on his own and he is certainly not a puck or board battler. Great scorer and a smart player, though.
- Hockey66

Guentz is a good playmaker, he definitely can make plays. No, he's not a battle axe in the corners but his smarts make up for it.
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jan 4 @ 8:34 PM ET
I was thinking Rust just in terms of handedness and position opposite Guentzel, who seems like a perfect fit for Crosby. But hopefully Sully will experiment and then give the experiment time.
- Hockey66

I don't want to take away from Geno though. I would just leave Rod or whoever wins that spot for now until Kap can get here.
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Jan 4 @ 9:14 PM ET
I was thinking Rust just in terms of handedness and position opposite Guentzel, who seems like a perfect fit for Crosby. But hopefully Sully will experiment and then give the experiment time.
- Hockey66


I would swap Zucker and Guentz if things don't work. I would have definitely done it in that Habs play-in.

That's the thing with Sully. In his first couple of years he constantly changed things up. Maybe too much, but they won a couple of cups....so....

Now, everybody is glued together and "shake ups" never happen. Seriously, that series against the Habs was maddening with how little he tried other options.

I'm serious.... He's the new Bylsma.
redseerpf
Calgary Flames
Joined: 06.14.2019

Jan 4 @ 9:28 PM ET
John Marino's just been signed to a monster contract by the way.

Maybe next year the Panthers are gonna be willing to give you back Hornqvist in exchange for him?
10inchTerror
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jan 4 @ 10:04 PM ET
John Marino's just been signed to a monster contract by the way.

Maybe next year the Panthers are gonna be willing to give you back Hornqvist in exchange for him?

- redseerpf


Marino had his blog a whole blog ago. Jeez
kfinl170
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.05.2010

Jan 4 @ 10:48 PM ET
This is a blessing in disguise.

Kapanen has proven unable to perform at an elite level. While he has tremendous speed, he is lacking most other fundamental skills. Most importantly, his hockey IQ is absent. He is a similar player to Kessel, without Phil's desirable shot. He continually proves himself to be a one-dimensional play-breaking turn-over machine.

Training camp can now be wisely spent finding a player with which Crosby can generate some chemistry. This will not happen with Kapanen.

- Jackie Daytona


How is this a blessing in disguise? They traded quite a bit to get him, he better work out.
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jan 4 @ 11:37 PM ET
How is this a blessing in disguise? They traded quite a bit to get him, he better work out.
- kfinl170

It's some rando make beleafs fan spitting crap
Thunderbolt
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Wampum, PA
Joined: 01.20.2014

Jan 5 @ 8:03 AM ET
How is this a blessing in disguise? They traded quite a bit to get him, he better work out.
- kfinl170


Kapanen is going to be fine. The question whether this team becomes a threat in the playoffs rests on the development of the young guys fighting for spots in the bottom six.

Let's assume Kap is a bust, unlikely but, you have a couple players who can step into a top six role until a trade can be made. Remember, the bar is quite low for him and he has already produced at or above the level we are expecting. If he is a bust, then we have our new whipping boy. So it is a win-win.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Jan 5 @ 8:21 AM ET
John Marino's just been signed to a monster contract by the way.

Maybe next year the Panthers are gonna be willing to give you back Hornqvist in exchange for him?

- redseerpf


This troll attempt gets a 1/10...the 1 point comes from using Hornqvist like that.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Jan 5 @ 8:31 AM ET
It's kind of funny. I've been thinking Erod will be the new Sheary or Simon. Sid will play 2 games with Kap, they won't produce anything, then Erod suddenly is our new 1RW. Kap gets demoted to 3rd line and suddenly that line doesn't look so bad.

Can you imagine if the first line gets off to a hot start with Erod?

- madmike71



Oh I can imagine, I can imagine all kinds of things...and while crazier things have happened, its more likely to be unlikely than likely.

If by some slim chance one of these pickups or rookies can find magic in the top 6 then it changes quite a bit and the bottom 6 will be much better looking.

If, buts...candies and nuts. We'll see what happens. Most of us like the 4th(3rd) line when in tact, its the 3rd line we have no idea how it will look...but have a good idea it might not look that good...and with good reason(s).

We'll see what happens.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Jan 5 @ 9:44 AM ET
I'd wouldn't mind seeing Zucker on the 1st.
- madmike71


Do you mean swapping Jake to Geno's line or stacking Sid's line? Because stacking Sid's line would be a massive mistake IMO. The Pens are already the most top-heavy they've been in years, so that would thin things out far too much IMO.
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Jan 5 @ 9:54 AM ET
Do you mean swapping Jake to Geno's line or stacking Sid's line? Because stacking Sid's line would be a massive mistake IMO. The Pens are already the most top-heavy they've been in years, so that would thin things out far too much IMO.
- Rinosaur


No... swapping them if things aren't working. I thought Zucker and Sid looked great together.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Jan 5 @ 10:32 AM ET
No... swapping them if things aren't working. I thought Zucker and Sid looked great together.
- madmike71


I agree and Jake fit with Geno very well.
10inchTerror
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jan 5 @ 11:25 AM ET
I think the short season could be a big benefit to the net minders. My only doubt with this tandem is maintaining play for a whole season and later on into the playoffs. This could be ideal for them from a games played perspective.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jan 5 @ 11:27 AM ET
This is a blessing in disguise.

Kapanen has proven unable to perform at an elite level. While he has tremendous speed, he is lacking most other fundamental skills. Most importantly, his hockey IQ is absent. He is a similar player to Kessel, without Phil's desirable shot. He continually proves himself to be a one-dimensional play-breaking turn-over machine.

Training camp can now be wisely spent finding a player with which Crosby can generate some chemistry. This will not happen with Kapanen.

- Jackie Daytona


You’re bad at watching hockey. Should probably pick up something slower like frog jumping and simpler.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jan 5 @ 11:29 AM ET
New Yohe article states something I and a few others stated we'd like to see. While he guesses the top four will be Letang, Dumo, Petts and Marino he said we could see Matheson with Marino and Petts with Ceci which I'm really hoping for.

I think Marino can help mitigate the weaker points to Matheson's game and the same for Ceci's game if he's paired with Pettersson which would also allow the Pens spread the TOI more efficiently.

- Rinosaur


Nah. Put the best players on the best lines and shelter the 3rd pair.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Jan 5 @ 11:29 AM ET
Regarding these taxis squads....will the players be allowed to be played/scratched regularly, from game to game, or does there have to be an injury for taxi squad member to be allowed to play? What happens if the whole taxi squad is injured and regulars start getting injured too?... which is a realistic scenario for this hockey club.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Jan 5 @ 11:33 AM ET
If Kapanen doesn't fall down every other time he skates up or down the boards, that's a plus. If Kap can actually score goals when he shoots, that's another plus. Tunnel vision, average shot. Sorry, I'm not seeing where this is a step back for Crosby.
- Thunderbolt

He falls down at least once a game

No seriously
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Jan 5 @ 11:35 AM ET
Crosby has elevated scrubs like Dom Simon and Conner Sheary. Hell Sheary had 53 points one season. Kap will be like Brett Hull compared to those guys.
- madmike71

Kap tries to be the line driver...One of the reasons he is so bad next to elite players.

And he is not good at receiving a pass in the O zone.

He can skate the puck from the D zone to the O zone very well and can finish on breakaways...Not the best recipe for success on top lines. He is a very good 3rd line player that can PK.

His contract is fine and you guys will enjoy him on your 3rd line, just dont expect him to light it up with Crosby...he might be the 1st player you have ever seen to play actually WORSE next to Malkin or Crosby.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Jan 5 @ 12:01 PM ET
Nah. Put the best players on the best lines and shelter the 3rd pair.
- j.boyd919


I mean, that would be the logical thing to do if you had a coach who would do this, but if he wasn't going to shelter Jack Johnson I'd say it's unlikely he shelters Matheson and/or Ceci, so I think it makes more sense to at least pair them with players who could curb their issues.
Thunderbolt
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Wampum, PA
Joined: 01.20.2014

Jan 5 @ 1:29 PM ET
He falls down at least once a game

No seriously

- Santo_44


Seriously, have ever watched Sheary?

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