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RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

Dec 22 @ 1:20 PM ET
a few things the sabres could do right now to really make them a playoff team


trade montour casey, hutton, miller

get a goalie

sign chara

sign soderberg

- homiedclown


Chara is done. He may get a deal, but he looked awful last season.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Dec 22 @ 1:21 PM ET
Who wins a 3-way tie between Pittsburgh, Buffalo, and Tennessee?
- buffalofan19



No one has a head-to-head sweep. AFC record would be the next tiebreaker,


steelers and bills would have 3 afc losses, titans 4


so we would then win by head to head with steelers, I think


homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Dec 22 @ 1:22 PM ET
If it goes by points then Tennessee. They have 1 more than KC for 1st in the league right now. Bills are 23 back and Pittsburgh is like 70 back. Butt I don't know if that's what they go by..
- Keepcomplaining

no it would not

he is assuming steelers, bills and titans are 12-4


no team has a sweep over the other two teams

next tiebreaker would be afc record, titans have 4 afc losses, bills and steelers have 3
Keepcomplaining
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.01.2020

Dec 22 @ 1:23 PM ET
no it would not

he is assuming steelers, bills and titans are 12-4


no team has a sweep over the other two teams

next tiebreaker would be afc record, titans have 4 afc losses, bills and steelers have 3

- homiedclown


Yeah I see that now thanks! I had no clue
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Dec 22 @ 1:24 PM ET
3 way tiebreakers


1. head-to-head sweep.

2. AFC record would be the next tiebreaker


3. record vs common opponents, but there needs to be four common among all three teams


4. Strength of Victory.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Dec 22 @ 1:26 PM ET
if we are tied with brows, and titans at 12-4, and steelers lose the division


they also all have 4 afc losses, so we get in with the 2 seed
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Dec 22 @ 1:39 PM ET
Bills are the second best team in the league

Bring me anyone for the wild card game.

Just let the weather be ok
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Dec 22 @ 1:40 PM ET
If it goes by points then Tennessee. They have 1 more than KC for 1st in the league right now. Bills are 23 back and Pittsburgh is like 70 back. Butt I don't know if that's what they go by..
- Keepcomplaining


Three or More Clubs
(Note: If two clubs remain tied after third or other clubs are eliminated during any step, tie breaker reverts to step 1 of the two-club format).

Head-to-head (best won-lost-tied percentage in games among the clubs).
Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the division.
Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games.
Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.
Strength of victory.
Strength of schedule.
Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.
Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.
Best net points in common games.
Best net points in all games.
Best net touchdowns in all games.
Coin toss


I think it's the Bills. All teams beat each other. Division doesn't matter. Common games have to be a minimum of four, and the Bills didn't play four common games against Tennessee (only Broncos and Steelers). Best Conference record. Bills and Steelers would have 3 losses in conference (both lost to an NFC team), while Titans lost 4 AFC games (Bengals, Colts, Steelers, Browns). Means it goes back to #1. Bills beat Steelers, therefore they win.
Camel
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Sudbury, ON
Joined: 04.25.2009

Dec 22 @ 1:43 PM ET
Yes lets get rid of our most physical defense who actually know what defense is...
- Keepcomplaining


I agree. Why would anyone even suggest getting rid of McCabe when he truly is by far their best defensive defenceman.

Keepcomplaining
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.01.2020

Dec 22 @ 1:47 PM ET
Three or More Clubs
(Note: If two clubs remain tied after third or other clubs are eliminated during any step, tie breaker reverts to step 1 of the two-club format).

Head-to-head (best won-lost-tied percentage in games among the clubs).
Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the division.
Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games.
Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.
Strength of victory.
Strength of schedule.
Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.
Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.
Best net points in common games.
Best net points in all games.
Best net touchdowns in all games.
Coin toss

I think it's the Bills. All teams beat each other. Division doesn't matter. Common games have to be a minimum of four, and the Bills didn't play four common games against Tennessee (only Broncos and Steelers). Best Conference record. Bills and Steelers would have 3 losses in conference (both lost to an NFC team), while Titans lost 4 AFC games (Bengals, Colts, Steelers, Browns). Means it goes back to #1. Bills beat Steelers, therefore they win.

- buffalofan19


Most complicated game on earth. If betting doesn't exist, does Football??
Camel
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Sudbury, ON
Joined: 04.25.2009

Dec 22 @ 1:47 PM ET
We need a goalie
- Pegullaville


Yes and try getting one that can score goals also.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Dec 22 @ 1:55 PM ET
Can't do it. Because bonus overages.
- buffalofan19

Lol

The debate from yesterday aside. It’s amazing how much this team always operates like it’s a high school team. Just always top level incompetence

I cannot believe they are going in with the same two goalies right now.

It’s absolutely incredible

They both had runs of just awful play. Ullmark less so but he was brutal on a lot of occasions
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Dec 22 @ 1:59 PM ET
Yes and try getting one that can score goals also.
- Camel


I believe they addressed that with Hall, Staal, and Cozens making the jump.

Scoring goals should not be the issue.

Losing 4-3 games could be though
RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

Dec 22 @ 2:03 PM ET
I believe they addressed that with Hall, Staal, and Cozens making the jump.

Scoring goals should not be the issue.

Losing 4-3 games could be though

- Pegullaville


We did decently on defense last season. Think that's going to slip? Or just think that there is some regression coming there?
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Dec 22 @ 2:04 PM ET
And I think the Bills can beat the Chiefs if they are able to keep Mahomes on the sideline and score on methodical time consuming drives.

Whether that means Allen is running it himself or not the most efficient way of killing clock is by having some semblance of a running game.

If the Bills happen to substitute the run game for the short passing game to sustain long drives then so be it. Maybe that’s the way it will be done in 2020 and beyond are these quick hitters in the passing game. It still serves the same purpose as the ground game in consuming clock. It shortens the game and gives Mahomes less possessions and less time.

The Bills defence and special teams units may very well make them the best overall team in the AFC at the moment. Although the wins over SF, Pittsburgh, and Denver’s AHL affiliate have lost a little bit of luster with the way those said teams have performed of late.

- Pegullaville



The Bills do have multiple 5 plus minute TD drives this season...and they do it by passing. Seriously this horse you’re continue to beat to death is annoying and it’s not even the right horse.

In fact Buffalo is 5th in time of possession this season
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Dec 22 @ 2:05 PM ET
We did decently on defense last season. Think that's going to slip? Or just think that there is some regression coming there?
- RhinoFan

The Risto/Montour pair is going to HEAVILY regress.

They had a very unsustainable on ice sv %.

I really hope they don’t lean on them again
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Dec 22 @ 2:05 PM ET
I believe they addressed that with Hall, Staal, and Cozens making the jump.

Scoring goals should not be the issue.

Losing 4-3 games could be though

- Pegullaville


Sabres are going to lose a lot of 5-4 4-3 games this year.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Dec 22 @ 2:06 PM ET
We did decently on defense last season. Think that's going to slip? Or just think that there is some regression coming there?
- RhinoFan


Eakin isn't as good as Lockport Larry defensively. We'll see what that actually means in a few short weeks
Keepcomplaining
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.01.2020

Dec 22 @ 2:06 PM ET
Lol

The debate from yesterday aside. It’s amazing how much this team always operates like it’s a high school team. Just always top level incompetence

I cannot believe they are going in with the same two goalies right now.

It’s absolutely incredible

They both had runs of just awful play. Ullmark less so but he was brutal on a lot of occasions

- sbroads24


He's young and played good on a weak team. Room to grow for sure but he'll be fine for us with some better play in the d-zone. Plus I'm sure they didn't expect Hutton to lose an eye and not be able to play as much. If his eye is good, like he says it is I have no problems with this tandem. And imma keep addressing ya'll about it. I remember when the board wanted Lehner gone when he couldn't win a shootout that one year. Look at him since, he wasn't the problem. Neither is the Swede named Linus.
Keepcomplaining
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.01.2020

Dec 22 @ 2:13 PM ET
There really isn't a standout goalie in our division other than Hart.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Dec 22 @ 2:20 PM ET
He's young and played good on a weak team. Room to grow for sure but he'll be fine for us with some better play in the d-zone. Plus I'm sure they didn't expect Hutton to lose an eye and not be able to play as much. If his eye is good, like he says it is I have no problems with this tandem. And imma keep addressing ya'll about it. I remember when the board wanted Lehner gone when he couldn't win a shootout that one year. Look at him since, he wasn't the problem. Neither is the Swede named Linus.
- Keepcomplaining

Sure if everything goes out way they could be ok. I wouldn’t bank on it.

It was a no brainer position to upgrade with multiple trade/FA options out there

We don’t have a #1 goalie and our #2 might not be playable

There’s just no excuse
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Dec 22 @ 2:32 PM ET
The Bills do have multiple 5 plus minute TD drives this season...and they do it by passing. Seriously this horse you’re continue to beat to death is annoying and it’s not even the right horse.

In fact Buffalo is 5th in time of possession this season

- Stripes77

They're also the best team in the league on 3rd down this year. That probably contributes to time of possession more than most other things.
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Dec 22 @ 2:33 PM ET
The Bills do have multiple 5 plus minute TD drives this season...and they do it by passing. Seriously this horse you’re continue to beat to death is annoying and it’s not even the right horse.

In fact Buffalo is 5th in time of possession this season

- Stripes77


Right and my horse has everything to do with how you win in the playoffs against elite opponents.

But for arguments sake in the one matchup against the Chiefs this year was Kansas City not balanced on offence because the game dictated them to be ?

In the battle of quite possibly the two best teams in the AFC and two best QB’s in the AFC the Chiefs running game was a huge part of winning that game due to the Bills forcing their hand and daring them to beat them on the ground.
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Dec 22 @ 2:34 PM ET
We did decently on defense last season. Think that's going to slip? Or just think that there is some regression coming there?
- RhinoFan


I think it will slip slightly as they open up their style of play.

I could be wrong though time will tell.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Dec 22 @ 2:36 PM ET
Right and my horse has everything to do with how you win in the playoffs against elite opponents.

But for arguments sake in the one matchup against the Chiefs this year was Kansas City not balanced on offence because the game dictated them to be ?

In the battle of quite possibly the two best teams in the AFC and two best QB’s in the AFC the Chiefs running game was a huge part of winning that game due to the Bills forcing their hand and daring them to beat them on the ground.

- Pegullaville

So you’re back to crediting the run game and not the “threat of the pass” but when Cleveland stomped Tennessee through the air it was because the “threat of the run”

You just go back and forth from narrative to narrative
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