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dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Dec 15 @ 11:43 AM ET
Myers makes our team better, we have literally nobody that can replace him. You saw the difference between the team with and without him during the playoffs.
- Retinalz


Yup.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Dec 15 @ 11:43 AM ET
Most of those were from trying to play the body on guys like Zuccarelo and Fiala. Their heads are at his hip....
- Retinalz

Interference and hooking is a lazy way to play the body.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Dec 15 @ 11:48 AM ET
People overlook the defense stats of our left side D that plays with him. All 3 top Lefties have better stats beside him than anyone else. He's not pretty to watch but he's more effective than people want to give him credit for. It's his brain farts and penalties that people focus on. Coaches don't look at it that way. They look at how effective the pairings are over the entire game.
- boonerbuck

All 3 top lefties?
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Dec 15 @ 11:48 AM ET
It depends on which teams do it. If one of Florida or TB or Arizona or Boston do this, possibly even NYR or NJD, every team will get a free pass to do it.
- Retinalz


True, until Canucks try do it.
#Bettmanhatesus.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Dec 15 @ 11:51 AM ET
All 3 top lefties?
- manvanfan


Leftcoaster, Pacificgem and DraftandDestroy.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Dec 15 @ 11:59 AM ET
Leftcoaster, Pacificgem and DraftandDestroy.
- Reubenkincade

Ahh, he's talking about his fantasy team
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Dec 15 @ 12:00 PM ET
All 3 top lefties?
- manvanfan


I posted an article that showed this. Or it had a link in it for pairings which I used.


Load Management
Season Ticket Holder
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Billings Spit, BC
Joined: 09.22.2019

Dec 15 @ 12:03 PM ET


I agree with Vantel, Podz has all the two way skills to slide into the middle 6, he'll be better then LE in that spot, Virt needs to be sheltered a bit to get his goals, again, middle six.

- Pres.cup

He may just do that, but in time. I can't see him showing up mid season and learning a new system enough to take a top 6 role.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Dec 15 @ 12:08 PM ET
I posted an article that showed this. Or it had a link in it for pairings which I used.
- boonerbuck

Yeah Canucksarmy posted two of them this year.

"It seems to be that Myers is a top-four defender only when paired with another top-four-quality player. He just doesn’t have it in him to carry a partner, and that’s consistent with his recent history in Winnipeg."

I think this sums him up.

There was another article posted in June also
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Dec 15 @ 12:15 PM ET
He may just do that, but in time. I can't see him showing up mid season and learning a new system enough to take a top 6 role.
- Load Management


Agreed.



Green is not one to throw a kid into that kind of situation, that doesn't have the pedigree of Petey or Hughes.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Dec 15 @ 12:17 PM ET
I posted an article that showed this. Or it had a link in it for pairings which I used.
- boonerbuck

https://canucksarmy.com/2...-myers-vs-advanced-stats/
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Dec 15 @ 12:21 PM ET
Yeah Canucksarmy posted two of them this year.

"It seems to be that Myers is a top-four defender only when paired with another top-four-quality player. He just doesn’t have it in him to carry a partner, and that’s consistent with his recent history in Winnipeg."

I think this sums him up.

There was another article posted in June also

- manvanfan

So he is like a LOT of top 4 guys out there? Only a top 4 guy when paired with another good player, and when paired with garbage, isn't a top 4 guy any more. I think that is something you can say about almost half the top 4 guys out there.
VanHockeyGuy
Joined: 04.26.2012

Dec 15 @ 12:26 PM ET
Haida issues with VAN logo.

https://twitter.com/TMZ/status/1338894599914319875
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Dec 15 @ 12:27 PM ET
When Boeser returned, he was immediately put on the 3rd line and LE on Bo's line. TT then got injured and Boeser returned to the 1st line. You are the one that isnt sorted.
- boonerbuck


Don't want to break up the dance, TT got injured the game Boeser returned, sample size of 1
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Dec 15 @ 12:28 PM ET
I saw him sitting in the penalty box in the playoff thingy.
- Marwood


He was pretty big there though wasn't he
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Dec 15 @ 12:29 PM ET
Leftcoaster, Pacificgem and DraftandDestroy.
- Reubenkincade


Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Dec 15 @ 12:30 PM ET
Agreed.



Green is not one to throw a kid into that kind of situation, that doesn't have the pedigree of Petey or Hughes.

- dbot


Well, not to be a wet blanket, but pedigree is all they have in common, as a top 5 pick, OJ has pedigree, just not skills.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Dec 15 @ 12:32 PM ET
Don't want to break up the dance, TT got injured the game Boeser returned, sample size of 1
- Pres.cup


I know that. Green still made these moves though...
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Dec 15 @ 12:34 PM ET
Haida issues with VAN logo.

https://twitter.com/TMZ/status/1338894599914319875

- VanHockeyGuy


Lazy journalists, say it's got elements of Haida but is hurting the coast Salish.... they are two entirely different nations, their art and culture are totally different.

In fact by assuming that they are the same is prejudicial of the writer, who's from Manitoba so I assume it's minivan.

Dumb, dumb....
Load Management
Season Ticket Holder
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Billings Spit, BC
Joined: 09.22.2019

Dec 15 @ 12:35 PM ET
Haida issues with VAN logo.

https://twitter.com/TMZ/status/1338894599914319875

- VanHockeyGuy


I can get on board with this one. I've had issues with the Orca from day one.
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Dec 15 @ 12:40 PM ET
Haida issues with VAN logo.

https://twitter.com/TMZ/status/1338894599914319875

- VanHockeyGuy

Gotta love white people getting enraged over appropriation of other cultures without even bothering to hear what those other cultures think.

If you read this guys whole twitter thread it smacks of virtue signalling. He thinks he knows best because he's a uni prof not because he's actually talked to any indigenous people about it.
VanHockeyGuy
Joined: 04.26.2012

Dec 15 @ 12:46 PM ET
Gotta love white people getting enraged over appropriation of other cultures without even bothering to hear what those other cultures think.

If you read this guys whole twitter thread it smacks of virtue signalling. He thinks he knows best because he's a uni prof not because he's actually talked to any indigenous people about it.

- NorthNuck



Maybe if they drew some hairs on the Orca he'd be okay with the logo.

Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Dec 15 @ 12:51 PM ET
I can get on board with this one. I've had issues with the Orca from day one.
- Load Management

manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Dec 15 @ 12:52 PM ET
Haida issues with VAN logo.

https://twitter.com/TMZ/status/1338894599914319875

- VanHockeyGuy

Out with the orca.

Back to the skate.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Dec 15 @ 12:54 PM ET
So he is like a LOT of top 4 guys out there? Only a top 4 guy when paired with another good player, and when paired with garbage, isn't a top 4 guy any more. I think that is something you can say about almost half the top 4 guys out there.
- Retinalz

Stecher had pretty well equal numbers when paired with a top 4 defender but Fatty had better numbers without Myers.

Tried to say he's a 4/5 guy when we got him. Which doesn't make him capable of top pairing minutes.
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