Tanking increases your probably of getting high end talent.

Especially talent that can perform above their contract demands for their first 3 seasons.

There are definitely ways of acquiring high end talent without tanking. However when the Penguins, Hawks, and Kings (for the most part) do it and win a combined 8 cups featuring players selected in the top 5 of their draft classes it makes sense why Buffalo would do that.

Cozens becoming a play driving top 6 forward at a sub $1M cap hit is the key to make this whole ship work and salvaging the fact that we gave $9M to Skinner.

Quinn and Peterka carving out roles in the top 6/9 at cheap salaries also help immensely.

Watch that “culture” improve too because we have a lot more talent on our roster.
- Pegullaville

Don’t u ever get tired of talking about the same 2 points over & over & over??

- TheSabresTaco

fair enough

Tanking increases your probably of getting high end talent.

Especially talent that can perform above their contract demands for their first 3 seasons.

There are definitely ways of acquiring high end talent without tanking. However when the Penguins, Hawks, and Kings (for the most part) do it and win a combined 8 cups featuring players selected in the top 5 of their draft classes it makes sense why Buffalo would do that.

Cozens becoming a play driving top 6 forward at a sub $1M cap hit is the key to make this whole ship work and salvaging the fact that we gave $9M to Skinner.

Quinn and Peterka carving out roles in the top 6/9 at cheap salaries also help immensely.

Watch that “culture” improve too because we have a lot more talent on our roster.
- Pegullaville

Now name the teams who won cups without bombing for years. Again. You're pigeon holed.

How would he do if he was here with Allen?
- jdfitz77

when evaluating the trade, qb play will determine who wins

we have no clue who will be the vikings qb for the next 8 years


we do know who will be diggs qb


they go hand in hand



and it's insane to ASSUME beane would have picked jefferson if he did not make the diggs trade

The Bills lost with dignity for Allen ?
- Pegullaville

Actually the Bills made the playoffs with Tyrod that year. They decided to stop losing AND they got an elite player in the draft. Not every organization in Buffalo makes winning and getting elite players mutually exclusive

The Bills lost with dignity for Allen ?
- Pegullaville

when evaluating the trade, qb play will determine who wins

we have no clue who will be the vikings qb for the next 8 years


we do know who will be diggs qb


they go hand in hand



and it's insane to ASSUME beane would have picked jefferson if he did not make the diggs trade
- homiedclown

I have a hard time believing he would go anything other than WR at #1 though given that he made that trade.

when evaluating the trade, qb play will determine who wins

we have no clue who will be the vikings qb for the next 8 years


we do know who will be diggs qb


they go hand in hand



and it's insane to ASSUME beane would have picked jefferson if he did not make the diggs trade
- homiedclown

Making the argument about who would do well where is asinine. Different coaches, staff, players, philosophies.. no one can ever predict with certainty how one player will perform on a different team. Maybe Justin Jefferson gets injured in his second game as a Bill, never recovers his form and becomes a mediocre receiver in the league for his career. It's just a silly what if.

Actually the Bills made the playoffs with Tyrod that year. They decided to stop losing AND they got an elite player in the draft. Not every organization in Buffalo makes winning and getting elite players mutually exclusive
- jcragcrumple

Win and stop the win

Actually the Bills made the playoffs with Tyrod that year. They decided to stop losing AND they got an elite player in the draft. Not every organization in Buffalo makes winning and getting elite players mutually exclusive
- jcragcrumple

We have Josh Allen and that’s so fantastic

Don’t u ever get tired of talking about the same 2 points over & over & over??
- jdfitz77

No, not really.

Allen got a lot of accolades for his performance on Sunday night, as is expected because he's the quarterback. However, the best player on the field for either team that night was Stefon Diggs.
- buffalofan19

I agree, but I think your overlooking allen - making his receivers (more) than they are making him.

Diggs - career year
Beasley- career year
John brown last year - career year
Rookie 4th round pick gabe davis - outstanding year.
Isiah McKenzie- career year ( lame post) but even he's scoring.

Sunday diggs was unrecoverable

Win and stop the win
- TheSabresTaco

Sabres nailed that part

I agree, but I think your overlooking allen - making his receivers (more) than they are making him.

Diggs - career year
Beasley- career year
John brown last year - career year
Rookie 4th round pick gabe davis - outstanding year.
Isiah McKenzie- career year ( lame post) but even he's scoring.

Sunday diggs was unrecoverable
- Boss34

triggered

triggered
- TheHank

Is he "very good" or just "pretty good"?

Is he "very good" or just "pretty good"?
- buffalofan19

double triggered

Is he "very good" or just "pretty good"?
- buffalofan19

He struggled early in the game against Pitt

But caught his 3rd TD in as many weeks

6 TDs and 440 yards so far

Wouldn't have picked him to be leading the Bills in receiving TDs but here we are

when evaluating the trade, qb play will determine who wins

we have no clue who will be the vikings qb for the next 8 years

we do know who will be diggs qb

they go hand in hand

and it's insane to ASSUME beane would have picked jefferson if he did not make the diggs trade
- homiedclown

Why is that insane?
Obviously he wanted to improve the WR group

Just bc we don’t “know for sure” doesn’t mean we can’t make a solid educated guess at it

Also, by your logic, whatever the Bills did- trading for Diggs OR just picking Jefferson (or any other talented WR)- would’ve been the right decision Bc we have Allen

No, not really.
- Pegullaville

Variety is the spice of life

Don’t u ever get tired of talking about the same 2 points over & over & over??
- jdfitz77

Are others eligible to vote on this issue?

The issue with the Jefferson and diggs trade is this

Diggs at the time of the trade was / is in his prime and has been in the nfl and was pretty much a guaranteed stud. He’s been in an NFL offense. Diggs being a veteran .... could pick up the playbook and get his body right before the season.

Jefferson - rookie with no preseason, no OTAs, and no real nfl offseason. Also a rookies WR rarely pan out in their first season

Who would you trust me starting the season?

Common sense says diggs

The issue with the Jefferson and diggs trade is this

Diggs at the time of the trade was / is in his prime and has been in the nfl and was pretty much a guaranteed stud. He’s been in an NFL offense. Diggs being a veteran .... could pick up the playbook and get his body right before the season.

Jefferson - rookie with no preseason, no OTAs, and no real nfl offseason. Also a rookies WR rarely pan out in their first season

Who would you trust me starting the season?

Common sense says diggs
- Sabretooth9

common sense isn't really all that common

I agree, but I think your overlooking allen - making his receivers (more) than they are making him.

Diggs - career year
Beasley- career year
John brown last year - career year
Rookie 4th round pick gabe davis - outstanding year.
Isiah McKenzie- career year ( lame post) but even he's scoring.

Sunday diggs was unrecoverable
- Boss34

John Brown was a #2/#3 (in Arizona) before becoming the Bills defacto #1 in a pass happy offence so I don’t think that was a large bar to supersede.

Buffalo throws more than Minnesota does, Allen is better than Cousins, and Diggs is just an elite football player in his own right. They scratch each other’s backs and make each other look good l.

To say that Beasley doesn’t benefit from all of the attention that Diggs’ gets would be an under statement and definitely plays into his career year. They both scratch each other’s backs as well.

There are definitely plays that Allen makes that are incredible that his receiving corps benefits from.

Then there are a lot of underneath plays that Diggs and Beasley make and YAC that make Allen look good.

It varies by game, varies by looks they get in coverage, and is really isolated on a play by play context.

I agree with your overall sentiment that having Allen and the Daboll offence definitely benefits and caters to the WR’s production more so then being in a system like Minnesota’s but it’s not as simple as you make it seem

The issue with the Jefferson and diggs trade is this

Diggs at the time of the trade was / is in his prime and has been in the nfl and was pretty much a guaranteed stud. He’s been in an NFL offense. Diggs being a veteran .... could pick up the playbook and get his body right before the season.

Jefferson - rookie with no preseason, no OTAs, and no real nfl offseason. Also a rookies WR rarely pan out in their first season

Who would you trust more starting the season?

Common sense says diggs
- Sabretooth9

Of course

I don’t think anyone is unhappy with Diggs
Has anyone said that?

Of course

I don’t think anyone is unhappy with Diggs
Has anyone said that?
- jdfitz77

This is one of those rare win win trades for both teams

Which I am 100% okay with