What, just because he hasn't been hit that much doesn't mean all the throwing on his surgically repaired elbow isn't taking its toll.
- Buff36

What?

Ben looked good last night. Couple bad throws.
1 was an exceptional pick by the Bill's defense.

He was an mvp candidate. Elbow schwellbow

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What's really funny tooth69, is that you couldn't admit josh allen was good, until 3 weeks ago.

Those in glass houses shouldn't bag on the franchise mvp candidate hometown quarterback
- Boss34

Allen didn’t show he could read zone defense until a few weeks ago.

Major box checked off

11-2 with no running game

This can't be true. But matt drew stafford isnt to blame for anything.

I have matt drew stafford at 20 -22 on current qb rankings. Prior to the injury. Alot of the losing is his fault.


He's kinda the irrelevant skinner type guy, no one would take on his overpaid contract.

I'm sure they wish the could get rid of him. No takers
- Boss34

This years Steelers is a slightly better version of last years Bills team.

The defense dominated and they had an easier schedule up to this point.

They should finish 12-4 or 13-3 I think they have another loss in there as Indy is looking really good.

Allen didn’t show he could read zone defense until a few weeks ago.

Major box checked off
- Sabretooth9

He did it all season long but also, he hasn't run the ball, so we aren't 11-2.

Well, Trent Dilfer did win once, too, so we should probably trade Josh Allen for Daniel Jones or Sam Darnold.
- 3rd GM's the charm

I was thinking Joe Flacco, because he's won, after all, with an elite D and strong run game.

What?

Ben looked good last night. Couple bad throws.
1 was an exceptional pick by the Bill's defense.

He was an mvp candidate. Elbow schwellbow

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- Boss34

What? So since the Jax game his Average YPT is about 5.2 to 5.5 yards, with a couple games under 4yrds. He gets rid of the ball so quick because he is only throwing it 4yrds down the field. In the last 4gms he's thrown 6 of his interceptions. He started of great, not so good the last bunch.

I was thinking Joe Flacco, because he's won, after all, with an elite D and strong run game.
- TheSabresTaco

You're probably right.

What? So since the Jax game his Average YPT is about 5.2 to 5.5 yards, with a couple games under 4yrds. He gets rid of the ball so quick because he is only throwing it 4yrds down the field. In the last 4gms he's thrown 6 of his interceptions. He started of great, not so good the last bunch.
- Buff36

You're both right.

He's only won one championship though.

That's unsuccessful


It's not fun to watch your team win 12 games each season and average at least a playoff win or two, to go along with winning it all one time.

That sounds dreadful
- sbroads24

why would we want the Bills to be perennially in the playoffs? that sounds.. dreadful

why would we want the Bills to be perennially in the playoffs? that sounds.. dreadful
- TheSabresTaco

You're right, it doesn't bring any money to the local economy.

You're right, it doesn't bring any money to the local economy.
- 3rd GM's the charm

He did it all season long but also, he hasn't run the ball, so we aren't 11-2.
- 3rd GM's the charm

Ahh no. Struggled big time at reading zone

See the titans. Chiefs and jets game.

He truly figured it out the last few weeks

Ahh no. Struggled big time at reading zone

See the titans. Chiefs and jets game.

He truly figured it out the last few weeks
- Sabretooth9

He's proven two big things over the past two years. He's well coached, and coachable.

Yeah it kinda is
- sbroads24

Oh yes I’m sure the Packers fans were jumping for joy in the NFC Championship game last year when Goroppolo beat them throwing for 74 yards. I’m sure they were begging for him to throw more that day.

I get it, the Bills are 10-3 for the first time since 1991. They are going to win the division for the first time since 1995.

Perhaps winning the division alone is enough for you to be satisfied with the season. That’s absolutely fine and if that’s what makes you happy then so be it. Congratulations on your achievements this season up to date.

Sooner or later though the expectations are going to rise, and making the playoffs becomes an after thought. Sooner or later nobody is going to care about playoff appearances but what you do when you get there.

The Bills defence is legit, they are all things considered the 2nd best team in the AFC right now because of it. The Bills built a solid foundation around their QB and are reaping the dividends.

The Packers haven’t won anything because all they have ever been is Aaron Rodgers. The one time they had a defence they won the SB. Their defence is going to be the reason why they lose to the Rams, Saints, or the field in the playoffs.

I have never argued that Elite QB won’t get you to the playoffs, however every year an Elite QB may lose to a lesser QB because of the strength of the team.

I’ll take the better all around team then just the best QB.

This season the Bills may have the Elite QB with the best overall team. A lot of the times that usually isn’t the case.

Mahomes had an MVP season in 2018 and lost in the AFC Championship.

They come back the next season with Spagnuolo as the DC and some different personnel and win a SB with a defence that ranked top 10 if not top 5 against the Pass.

Whether you have an elite QB, or you have a “good” QB the game comes down to much more then that.

With or without Josh Allen the bills get taken to the woodshed last night if their defence wasn’t up to the task.

Oh yes I’m sure the Packers fans were jumping for joy in the NFC Championship game last year when Goroppolo beat them throwing for 74 yards. I’m sure they were begging for him to throw more that day.

I get it, the Bills are 10-3 for the first time since 1991. They are going to win the division for the first time since 1995.

Perhaps winning the division alone is enough for you to be satisfied with the season. That’s absolutely fine and if that’s what makes you happy then so be it. Congratulations on your achievements this season up to date.

Sooner or later though the expectations are going to rise, and making the playoffs becomes an after thought. Sooner or later nobody is going to care about playoff appearances but what you do when you get there.

The Bills defence is legit, they are all things considered the 2nd best team in the AFC right now because of it. The Bills built a solid foundation around their QB and are reaping the dividends.

The Packers haven’t won anything because all they have ever been is Aaron Rodgers. The one time they had a defence they won the SB. Their defence is going to be the reason why they lose to the Rams, Saints, or the field in the playoffs.

I have never argued that Elite QB won’t get you to the playoffs, however every year an Elite QB may lose to a lesser QB because of the strength of the team.

I’ll take the better all around team then just the best QB.

This season the Bills may have the Elite QB with the best overall team. A lot of the times that usually isn’t the case.

Mahomes had an MVP season in 2018 and lost in the AFC Championship.

They come back the next season with Spagnuolo as the DC and some different personnel and win a SB with a defence that ranked top 10 if not top 5 against the Pass.

Whether you have an elite QB, or you have a “good” QB the game comes down to much more then that.

With or without Josh Allen the bills get taken to the woodshed last night if their defence wasn’t up to the task.
- Pegullaville

Fitter, happier
More productive
Comfortable
Not drinking too much
Regular exercise at the gym, three days a week
Getting on better with your associate employee contemporaries
At ease
Eating well, no more microwave dinners and saturated fats
A patient, better driver
A safer car, baby smiling in back seat
Sleeping well, no bad dreams
No paranoia
Careful to all animals, never washing spiders down the plughole
Keep in contact with old friends, enjoy a drink now and then
Will frequently check credit at moral bank, hole in wall
Favours for favours, fond but not in love
Charity standing orders on sundays, ring-road supermarket
No killing moths or putting boiling water on the ants
Car wash, also on sundays
No longer afraid of the dark or midday shadows, nothing so ridiculously teenage and desperate
Nothing so childish
At a better pace, slower and more calculated
No chance of escape
Now self-employed
Concerned, but powerless
An empowered and informed member of societ, pragmatism not idealism
Will not cry in public
Less chance of illness
Tires that grip in the wet, shot of baby strapped in backseat
A good memory
Still cries at a good film
Still kisses with saliva
No longer empty and frantic
Like a cat
Tied to a stick
That's driven into
Frozen winter poop, the ability to laugh at weakness
Calm, fitter, healthier and more productive
A pig in a cage on antibiotics

Oh yes I’m sure the Packers fans were jumping for joy in the NFC Championship game last year when Goroppolo beat them throwing for 74 yards. I’m sure they were begging for him to throw more that day.

I get it, the Bills are 10-3 for the first time since 1991. They are going to win the division for the first time since 1995.

Perhaps winning the division alone is enough for you to be satisfied with the season. That’s absolutely fine and if that’s what makes you happy then so be it. Congratulations on your achievements this season up to date.

Sooner or later though the expectations are going to rise, and making the playoffs becomes an after thought. Sooner or later nobody is going to care about playoff appearances but what you do when you get there.

The Bills defence is legit, they are all things considered the 2nd best team in the AFC right now because of it. The Bills built a solid foundation around their QB and are reaping the dividends.

The Packers haven’t won anything because all they have ever been is Aaron Rodgers. The one time they had a defence they won the SB. Their defence is going to be the reason why they lose to the Rams, Saints, or the field in the playoffs.

I have never argued that Elite QB won’t get you to the playoffs, however every year an Elite QB may lose to a lesser QB because of the strength of the team.

I’ll take the better all around team then just the best QB.

This season the Bills may have the Elite QB with the best overall team. A lot of the times that usually isn’t the case.

Mahomes had an MVP season in 2018 and lost in the AFC Championship.

They come back the next season with Spagnuolo as the DC and some different personnel and win a SB with a defence that ranked top 10 if not top 5 against the Pass.

Whether you have an elite QB, or you have a “good” QB the game comes down to much more then that.

With or without Josh Allen the bills get taken to the woodshed last night if their defence wasn’t up to the task.
- Pegullaville

Know you did it.

He's proven two big things over the past two years. He's well coached, and coachable.
- buffalofan19

Yes and he made the progressions. He can do it all honestly.

Reading the defense
Recognizing zone / man
Audibles
Progressions

He’s got it all.

Josh Allen weeks 1-5 is no were near week 14 josh Allen.

He’s fully polished.

Oh yes I’m sure the Packers fans were jumping for joy in the NFC Championship game last year when Goroppolo beat them throwing for 74 yards. I’m sure they were begging for him to throw more that day.

I get it, the Bills are 10-3 for the first time since 1991. They are going to win the division for the first time since 1995.

Perhaps winning the division alone is enough for you to be satisfied with the season. That’s absolutely fine and if that’s what makes you happy then so be it. Congratulations on your achievements this season up to date.

Sooner or later though the expectations are going to rise, and making the playoffs becomes an after thought. Sooner or later nobody is going to care about playoff appearances but what you do when you get there.

The Bills defence is legit, they are all things considered the 2nd best team in the AFC right now because of it. The Bills built a solid foundation around their QB and are reaping the dividends.

The Packers haven’t won anything because all they have ever been is Aaron Rodgers. The one time they had a defence they won the SB. Their defence is going to be the reason why they lose to the Rams, Saints, or the field in the playoffs.

I have never argued that Elite QB won’t get you to the playoffs, however every year an Elite QB may lose to a lesser QB because of the strength of the team.

I’ll take the better all around team then just the best QB.

This season the Bills may have the Elite QB with the best overall team. A lot of the times that usually isn’t the case.

Mahomes had an MVP season in 2018 and lost in the AFC Championship.

They come back the next season with Spagnuolo as the DC and some different personnel and win a SB with a defence that ranked top 10 if not top 5 against the Pass.

Whether you have an elite QB, or you have a “good” QB the game comes down to much more then that.

With or without Josh Allen the bills get taken to the woodshed last night if their defence wasn’t up to the task.
- Pegullaville

I don’t even wanna argue about what we’re arguing and just focus on this point because it’s absurd.

Do you actually think Packers fans don’t absolutely love winning a poop ton more than they lose, and celebrate SB wins occasionally or are you just purposely being ridiculous?

Oh yes I’m sure the Packers fans were jumping for joy in the NFC Championship game last year when Goroppolo beat them throwing for 74 yards. I’m sure they were begging for him to throw more that day.

I get it, the Bills are 10-3 for the first time since 1991. They are going to win the division for the first time since 1995.

Perhaps winning the division alone is enough for you to be satisfied with the season. That’s absolutely fine and if that’s what makes you happy then so be it. Congratulations on your achievements this season up to date.

Sooner or later though the expectations are going to rise, and making the playoffs becomes an after thought. Sooner or later nobody is going to care about playoff appearances but what you do when you get there.

The Bills defence is legit, they are all things considered the 2nd best team in the AFC right now because of it. The Bills built a solid foundation around their QB and are reaping the dividends.

The Packers haven’t won anything because all they have ever been is Aaron Rodgers. The one time they had a defence they won the SB. Their defence is going to be the reason why they lose to the Rams, Saints, or the field in the playoffs.

I have never argued that Elite QB won’t get you to the playoffs, however every year an Elite QB may lose to a lesser QB because of the strength of the team.

I’ll take the better all around team then just the best QB.

This season the Bills may have the Elite QB with the best overall team. A lot of the times that usually isn’t the case.

Mahomes had an MVP season in 2018 and lost in the AFC Championship.

They come back the next season with Spagnuolo as the DC and some different personnel and win a SB with a defence that ranked top 10 if not top 5 against the Pass.

Whether you have an elite QB, or you have a “good” QB the game comes down to much more then that.

With or without Josh Allen the bills get taken to the woodshed last night if their defence wasn’t up to the task.
- Pegullaville

This team isn't going to win the Superbowl like the 2014 Bills with Orton, Freddy, Dareus, Mario, Kyle and Hughes.

Now THAT was a team that could run and stop the run.

Allen didn’t show he could read zone defense until a few weeks ago.

Major box checked off
- Sabretooth9

Whatever dude.

Just because you didnt see how good he was playing, doesn't mean he couldn't read defenses.

All the sudden he learned ? Sure. You were wrong and now your right, by liking Allen's game

Whatever dude.

Just because you didnt see how good he was playing, doesn't mean he couldn't read defenses.

All the sudden he learned ? Sure. You were wrong and. Is right, by liking Allen
- Boss34

He made progressions dude. Again. Josh Allen week 1-5 is not even close to week 14 josh.

He’s made massive leaps and bounds

I don’t even wanna argue about what we’re arguing and just focus on this point because it’s absurd.

Do you actually think Packers fans don’t absolutely love winning a poop ton more than they lose, and celebrate SB wins occasionally or are you just purposely being ridiculous?
- sbroads24

I honestly don’t see the difference between a 5 year playoff drought or going to the playoffs and losing 5 years in a row.

If you’re not first you’re last.

Trading him would also be a loud message
- jcragcrumple

This is true, but his trade value must be a low, low point...unless Stan Bowman wants to trade say Dach.

I’ll take the better all around team then just the best QB.


- Pegullaville

Just dropping in to laugh my ass off because - after these posts and weeks of back and forth horsepoop - we have finally refined the argument to whether the Super Bowl Winner will be the best all around team with an elite quarterback, or the best all around team with the best running game and defense.

When of course, all along, everybody was agreeing that the Super Bowl Winner will be the best all around team.

And you jerk-offs just wanted to argue on the margins.

Just dropping in to laugh my ass off because - after these posts and weeks of back and forth horsepoop - we have finally refined the argument to whether the Super Bowl Winner will be the best all around team with an elite quarterback, or the best all around team with the best running game and defense.

When of course, all along, everybody was agreeing that the Super Bowl Winner will be the best all around team.

And you jerk-offs just wanted to argue on the margins.
- Der Kaiser

This jerk off just likes to pass the time during the day while at work.

The constant banter on here amuses me and helps the day go by a slight bit quicker.