- jcragcrumple

I have proof that 100% of all QBs to play in the modern NFL are actually covert RBs with time stopping devices in their helmets which allow them to "appear" to be throwing the ball but are actually carrying it to their destinations. Hence forth, there is no actual throwing, just the illusion of it. Great teams and bad teams alike win their games not from throwing the ball, an archaic practice.. but by purely running it.

"But Taco, how come we can see the ball but not the player?"

Because, I too can run and stop the run.

It’s kinda of funny that NFL media can’t say the Bills are good.

My YouTube pops up bills stuff. All the espn fs1 shows etc are not giving the Bills credit

The Steelers were tired .... they couldn’t run the ball. Blah blah blah

Dan orlasky (Sorry about spelling) and Chris Simms though have been the best most positive about the bills
- Sabretooth9

Adam Schein and GMFB are big Billievers too. Shannon Sharpe, Mel Kiper.. a lot more media has bought in than you think.

Well there throwing game is basically a run. Looks like all that throwing has taken a toll on Big Ben this year. Especially coming back from elbow surgery.
- Buff36

Yeah , a 2nd rounder is basically a 1st argument.

Good luck with that.

Ben has a 2.2 second release. Quickest in the nfl
Hadn't been sacked for 15 straight quarters at some point this season. No toll taken in my opinion.

Dropped passes and young receivers
11-2 beat by 2 playoff division winners most likely

The rumor of Ben's demise is greatly exaggerated

Oh yeah I forgot all those teams are 11-2, my bad
- 3rd GM's the charm

Lamar and hail Murray are top 10 qbs.
They win games single handedly
Tannenhill is borderline top 10.

But MATT DREW STAFFORD, that guy is great.
Flacco also a guy to build around

It’s kinda of funny that NFL media can’t say the Bills are good.

My YouTube pops up bills stuff. All the espn fs1 shows etc are not giving the Bills credit

The Steelers were tired .... they couldn’t run the ball. Blah blah blah

Dan orlasky (Sorry about spelling) and Chris Simms though have been the best most positive about the bills
- Sabretooth9

What's really funny tooth69, is that you couldn't admit josh allen was good, until 3 weeks ago.

Those in glass houses shouldn't bag on the franchise mvp candidate hometown quarterback

I have proof that 100% of all QBs to play in the modern NFL are actually covert RBs with time stopping devices in their helmets which allow them to "appear" to be throwing the ball but are actually carrying it to their destinations. Hence forth, there is no actual throwing, just the illusion of it. Great teams and bad teams alike win their games not from throwing the ball, an archaic practice.. but by purely running it.

"But Taco, how come we can see the ball but not the player?"

Because, I too can run and stop the run.
- TheSabresTaco

Truly huge if true. The supposed arc of a football in the air looks suspiciously like supposed curvature of the Earth. Coincidence? The truth is out there

It’s kinda of funny that NFL media can’t say the Bills are good.

My YouTube pops up bills stuff. All the espn fs1 shows etc are not giving the Bills credit

The Steelers were tired .... they couldn’t run the ball. Blah blah blah

Dan orlasky (Sorry about spelling) and Chris Simms though have been the best most positive about the bills
- Sabretooth9

Unfortunately, it's all about market size. The Bills are going to be a feel good story and not much more when it comes to sports television. Talking about what's wrong with the Steelers, who are as close to football royalty as you can get, is always going to put more eyeballs on the TV screen than how good the Bills have become.

Lamar and hail Murray are top 10 qbs.
They win games single handedly
Tannenhill is borderline top 10.

But MATT DREW STAFFORD, that guy is great.
Flacco also a guy to build around
- Boss34

Matthew Stafford is not the reason why the Lions have failed to do anything for 12 years.

The Lions failed to build anything around him.

Just like it would be a mistake to point the finger at Watson, Burrow, or Herbert for their teams futility.

Murray and Lamar are Running backs that play QB. Based on passing alone they are below average. However they lead high octane rushing attacks due to their athletic ability.

Truly huge if true. The supposed arc of a football in the air looks suspiciously like supposed curvature of the Earth. Coincidence? The truth is out there
- jcragcrumple

I'm sorry but are you presuming the earth has a curvature?

Hey look it's Crag ready to tell the world about his round earth theory

Yeah , a 2nd rounder is basically a 1st argument.

Good luck with that.

Ben has a 2.2 second release. Quickest in the nfl
Hadn't been sacked for 15 straight quarters at some point this season. No toll taken in my opinion.

Dropped passes and young receivers
11-2 beat by 2 playoff division winners most likely

The rumor of Ben's demise is greatly exaggerated
- Boss34

What if it’s Big Ben himself saying he’s not very good ?

Fake news I guess.

Both of the INT’s were both Bens fault.

The fact he has to get rid of the ball in 2 seconds is cause he has the mobility of a sloth now and can’t throw the ball down field.

James Washingon beat Wallace clean and had 5 yards of separation and Ben under threw him for an INT.

What if it’s Big Ben himself saying he’s not very good ?

Fake news I guess.

Both of the INT’s were both Bens fault.

The fact he has to get rid of the ball in 2 seconds is cause he has the mobility of a sloth now and can’t throw the ball down field.

James Washingon beat Wallace clean and had 5 yards of separation and Ben under threw him for an INT.
- Pegullaville

The best QB in the game had 3 interceptions. The premise of the argument that suggests he's bad because of a bad throw is lazy. I'd be willing to buy it if you included his degraded ability to make a good throw down field throughout the course of the season.

Ben is declining, he's also having a strong year.

Matthew Stafford is not the reason why the Lions have failed to do anything for 12 years.

The Lions failed to build anything around him.

Just like it would be a mistake to point the finger at Watson, Burrow, or Herbert for their teams futility.

Murray and Lamar are Running backs that play QB. Based on passing alone they are below average. However they lead high octane rushing attacks due to their athletic ability.
- Pegullaville

I have proof that all QBs are RBs.

I have proof that 100% of all QBs to play in the modern NFL are actually covert RBs with time stopping devices in their helmets which allow them to "appear" to be throwing the ball but are actually carrying it to their destinations. Hence forth, there is no actual throwing, just the illusion of it. Great teams and bad teams alike win their games not from throwing the ball, an archaic practice.. but by purely running it.

"But Taco, how come we can see the ball but not the player?"

Because, I too can run and stop the run.
- TheSabresTaco

Truge is hue.

Matthew Stafford is not the reason why the Lions have failed to do anything for 12 years.
- Pegullaville

You're right. Aaron Rodgers is the reason. Go figure, the team with the best QB has dominated that division for 15 years?

You're right. Aaron Rodgers is the reason. Go figure, the team with the best QB has dominated that division for 15 years?
- 3rd GM's the charm

Actually Colin Kaepernick almost won the super bowl that one time so you're wrong

Three weird coaching things from yesterday:

No coach challenge from the steelers on that Allen incomplete pass that sure looked like a fumble

No challenge on the Roethlisberger fumble that Hughes returned for a TD (although i heard someone say it wasn't reviewable because of how it was called on the field. If so, bad ref call)

When Allen slid prematurely on 2nd and 11 at the end of the game and didn't get the first down and Tomlin didn't try to stop the clock. He was just like "(frank) it, I want to go home"

This is a decent read for the Roethlisberger 'decline'

https://theathletic.com/2...rger-steelers-bills-2020/

Three weird coaching things from yesterday:

No coach challenge from the steelers on that Allen incomplete pass that sure looked like a fumble

No challenge on the Roethlisberger fumble that Hughes returned for a TD (although i heard someone say it wasn't reviewable because of how it was called on the field. If so, bad ref call)

When Allen slid prematurely on 2nd and 11 at the end of the game and didn't get the first down and Tomlin didn't try to stop the clock. He was just like "(frank) it, I want to go home"
- jcragcrumple

Yeah, they ruled forward progress on the sack, which is not reviewable.

Actually Colin Kaepernick almost won the super bowl that one time so you're wrong
- TheSabresTaco

The 49ers have been to the Super Bowl with both Kapernick and Goroppolo since the Packers have been there with Rodgers.

Neither team has won a ring in that time span.

At least the Packers have a team that makes the playoffs and loses every year though so that’s awesome.

You're right. Aaron Rodgers is the reason. Go figure, the team with the best QB has dominated that division for 15 years?
- 3rd GM's the charm

He's only won one championship though.

That's unsuccessful


It's not fun to watch your team win 12 games each season and average at least a playoff win or two, to go along with winning it all one time.

That sounds dreadful

The 49ers have been to the Super Bowl with both Kapernick and Goroppolo since the Packers have been there with Rodgers.

Neither team has won a ring in that time span.

At least the Packers have a team that makes the playoffs and loses every year though so that’s awesome.
- Pegullaville

Yeah it kinda is

Actually Colin Kaepernick almost won the super bowl that one time so you're wrong
- TheSabresTaco

Well, Trent Dilfer did win once, too, so we should probably trade Josh Allen for Daniel Jones or Sam Darnold.

He's only won one championship though.

That's unsuccessful


It's not fun to watch your team win 12 games each season and average at least a playoff win or two, to go along with winning it all one time.

That sounds dreadful
- sbroads24

32 chances to win, Rodgers is a fookin' loser.

Yeah , a 2nd rounder is basically a 1st argument.

Good luck with that.

Ben has a 2.2 second release. Quickest in the nfl
Hadn't been sacked for 15 straight quarters at some point this season. No toll taken in my opinion.

Dropped passes and young receivers
11-2 beat by 2 playoff division winners most likely

The rumor of Ben's demise is greatly exaggerated
- Boss34

What, just because he hasn't been hit that much doesn't mean all the throwing on his surgically repaired elbow isn't taking its toll.

This is a decent read for the Roethlisberger 'decline'

https://theathletic.com/2...rger-steelers-bills-2020/
- TheSabresTaco

11-2 with no running game

This can't be true. But matt drew stafford isnt to blame for anything.

I have matt drew stafford at 20 -22 on current qb rankings. Prior to the injury. Alot of the losing is his fault.


He's kinda the irrelevant skinner type guy, no one would take on his overpaid contract.

I'm sure they wish the could get rid of him. No takers