Honestly I don’t remember if brought up but I looked it up-

Has anyone mentioned that the year Flacco won, he was incredible in the playoffs and was the reason they won? They won throwing that post season
- sbroads24

Flacco had a great run in the post season if I remember correctly. Average season. Basically the " average qb can win " theory.

But, the average qb threw the ball very well. Basically won the superbowl, playing elite at the qb position.

He beat 2 QB’s at the peak of their careers in Manning and Brady whom are getting gold jackets.

An average QB won the Super Bowl.
- Pegullaville

He's talked about it numerous times in the past.
- 3rd GM's the charm

"Inside information " 🙄

Lock was "the worst qb in the league" when they out rushed teams, played good d and lost.

Qb throws 4 tds and the Broncos win ?
Carolina pound the ball but lost
Denver barely played decent defense
- Boss34

So a game between two teams that are not playoff bound, it is supposed to deter away from how I believe teams are able to win in the playoffs when it is generally the leagues heavy weights going head to head ?

So a game between two teams that are not playoff bound, it is supposed to deter away from how I believe teams are able to win in the playoffs when it is generally the leagues heavy weights going head to head ?
- Pegullaville

You brought up the Texans Bears game 20 minutes ago

So a game between two teams that are not playoff bound, it is supposed to deter away from how I believe teams are able to win in the playoffs when it is generally the leagues heavy weights going head to head ?
- Pegullaville

Yet as people have mentioned in the last 15 minutes, Joe Flacco played out of his mind throwing the ball in the Playoffs and also did it in the Super Bowl and won that Super Bowl? In a game where the 49ers averaged 6 YPC? And the Ravens averaged 2.23 YPC? That Super Bowl When the QB won MVP?

how I believe teams are able to win in the playoffs
- Pegullaville

A running back hasn't won Super Bowl MVP since 1998.

I literally didn't bring up career stats.

There's a reason Phillip Rivers is starting at QB and not Jacoby Brissett. But you don't seem to understand the difference.
- 3rd GM's the charm

“Phillip Rivers is a hall of fame QB”

You brought up a career accolade.

Phillip Rivers is a QB whom ranks in the upper half of the leagues starters. That’s why he starts over Jacoby Brissett.

I don’t think Rivers is a top 10 QB in the NFL THIS SEASON but I agree with you that the Colts could be a team that makes some noise in the playoffs depending on the strength of their defence come January.

What Rivers accomplished with San Diego Chargers has no impact on what is happening this year.

"Inside information " 🙄
- Boss34

Well...
- sbroads24

this particular game...

there are so many variables involved in winning that using absolutes is silly...

a great quarterback allows a team to make mistakes and still come out on top as opposed to those lower on the totem pole who need to limit mistakes...

and i don't think anyone would argue that point either

Phillip Rivers is a QB whom ranks in the upper half of the leagues starters.

I don’t think Rivers is a top 10 QB in the NFL
- Pegullaville

In the same god damn post.

Then why has Rivers only made the playoffs twice in his past 10 seasons?
- jdfitz77

Defence and special teams which do not matter as long as you have an elite QB apparently.

Go show me a QB ranking that has Rivers in the top 10 for performance THIS SEASON

Or one of the bottom 10 that has an elite defence and strong complimentary running game ?
- Pegullaville

Phillip Rivers is a QB whom ranks in the upper half of the leagues starters. That’s why he starts over Jacoby Brissett.


- Pegullaville

Dude just stop.

this particular game...

there are so many variables involved in winning that using absolutes is silly...

a great quarterback allows a team to make mistakes and still come out on top as opposed to those lower on the totem pole who need to limit mistakes...

and i don't think anyone would argue that point either
- Michael Pachla

This is the key point.

Everything else’s importance seems so minuscule when you have a great QB.

In the same god damn post.
- 3rd GM's the charm

Yes beady.

There are 32 teams in the NFL

So if you rank in the upper half in the league that means you rank in the top 16 QB’s in the NFL.

I think Rivers is a top 16 QB in the NFL, I wouldn’t put him in my top 10.

“In the same god damn post” 😂😂😂😂

Dude just stop.
- 3rd GM's the charm

Bottom 10 meaning QB’s ranked 5 through 15 in that context of that very post.

Like dude do you fu**ing read at all 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

Yes beady.

There are 32 teams in the NFL

So if you rank in the upper half in the league that means you rank in the top 16 QB’s in the NFL.

I think Rivers is a top 16 QB in the NFL, I wouldn’t put him in my top 10.

“In the same god damn post” 😂😂😂😂
- Pegullaville

15 minutes after saying he was a bottom-10 QB

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15 minutes after saying he was a bottom-10 QB
- 3rd GM's the charm

Right. I think the QB’s ranked 10-16 in the NFL like Goff, Mayfield, Rivers, Carr are absolutely capable of winning a ring with a complimentary ground game and a strong defence.

That has been my view point since the Flacco nickname.

Right. I think the QB’s ranked 10-16 in the NFL like Goff, Mayfield, Rivers, Carr are absolutely capable of winning a ring with a complimentary ground game and a strong defence.

That has been my view point since the Flacco nickname.
- Pegullaville

And you’re correct, they can. Approximately 23% of the time

This is the key point.

Everything else’s importance seems so minuscule when you have a great QB.
- sbroads24

actually, it's not "miniscule" by any means...tyreek hill and travis kelsey are crucial to mahomes success as they're elite at their positions...

on a bit of a lesser scale, brady had an elite TE in gronk and the best position receivers in the game at the time in wes welker and danny amendola...

those two qbs also played in systems designed by hall of fame coaches who got the most out of their role players in addition to molding their qb into the best player possible...

even with all that you still need health and/or depth, decent play (in the least) from your d and special teams (or at least timely plays,) and adversaries along the way who either couldn't hang with you or choked under pressure...

and that's not taking anything away from the qb's in those two examples

actually, it's not "miniscule" by any means...tyreek hill and travis kelsey are crucial to mahomes success as they're elite at their position...

on a bit of a lesser scale, brady had an elite TE in gronk and the best position receivers in the game at the time in wes welker and danny amendola...

those two qbs also played in systems designed by hall of fame coaches who got the most out of their role players in addition to molding their qb into the best player possible...

even with all that you still need health and/or depth, decent play (in the least) from your d and special teams (or at least timely plays,) and adversaries along the way who either couldn't hang with you or choked under pressure...

and that's not taking anything away from the qb's in those two examples
- Michael Pachla

I’m honestly hoping at this point for one of Mayfield, Rivers, Lamar, Goff, Murray to win the Super Bowl this year to see the excuses as to why Mahomes, Allen, Rodgers, and Wilson all lost

actually, it's not "miniscule" by any means...tyreek hill and travis kelsey are crucial to mahomes success as they're elite at their position...

on a bit of a lesser scale, brady had an elite TE in gronk and the best position receivers in the game at the time in wes welker and danny amendola...

those two qbs also played in systems designed by hall of fame coaches who got the most out of their role players in addition to molding their qb into the best player possible...

even with all that you still need health and/or depth, decent play (in the least) from your d and special teams (or at least timely plays,) and adversaries along the way who either couldn't hang with you or choked under pressure...

and that's not taking anything away from the qb's in those two examples
- Michael Pachla

Need is strong.

Need to win a super bowl, possibly. Need to be a dynasty, probably

Need to be consistently competitive? Not really

I’m honestly hoping at this point for one of Mayfield, Rivers, Lamar, Goff, Murray to win the Super Bowl this year to see the excuses as to why Mahomes, Allen, Rodgers, and Wilson all lost
- Pegullaville

They very well could win it.

They’d be part of that 23%.

Unless it’s Rivers, because he’d easily get in with a ring on top of his career

And Lamar won MVP last year

Funny stuff going on in here. Hey there's many ways to win a football game. Having a Elite QB sure helps, but isn't the only way.