Right, so the Chiefs defence that held the 49ers to 20 points (an offence that averaged 30 points a game) had nothing to do with that ?

Mahomes had a 37.7 QBR with 8 minutes left in the game.

The Chiefs don’t win that game if their defence doesn’t keep it within 10 points while Mahomes was getting eaten alive for three quarters.

It doesn’t matter how good Mahomes was that last 8 minutes if the Chiefs defence didn’t pitch a shutout the last 20 minutes of that game.

There is context to everything.
- Pegullaville

Dude this is crazy. You are literally crediting everyone besides the actual Super Bowl MVP for them winning.

Yes, of course you can’t win if everything else on your team is dog poop

Where are the Texans ?

The Bears have terrible QB play not average. They also can’t run the ball.

They have one of the worse offences I’ve ever seen.
- Pegullaville

So the Bears with an elite defense and bad offense are 5-7

The Seattle Seahawks with an elite QB and terrible defense are 8-4

Elite D>>>>QB though

How many times in the past 20 years have the Bills had an elite level defense?

How many times have they had even above average level QB play.

Which one lead to more playoff appearances...
- ImThatGuy

Hmm. Tough one

How many times in the past 20 years have the Bills had an elite level defense?

How many times have they had even above average level QB play.

Which one lead to more playoff appearances...
- ImThatGuy

If all you want to hang your hat on are playoff appearances then sure there isn’t an argument to had

Where are the Texans ?

The Bears have terrible QB play not average. They also can’t run the ball.

They have one of the worse offences I’ve ever seen.
- Pegullaville

The team that’s 4-3 in their last 7 since BOB was fired and Watson started to play at an elite level?

The team that’s 4-3 in their last 7 since BOB was fired and Watson started to play at an elite level?
- sbroads24

Watson has been elite over the course of his entire career

I’m sure Texans fans celebrate playoff appearances though who needs the ring.

Holy Fvck!!
10 pages if this poop!

Stop

Just fvcking stop, for the love of anything...STOP

Watson has been elite over the course of his entire career

I’m sure Texans fans celebrate playoff appearances though who needs the ring.
- Pegullaville

Jesus Christ dude his career is 4 years old and they are an incredibly piss poor ran franchise. He’s the #1 reason they win games. Any games. They won a playoff game last year and blew a lead to....the Super Bowl MVP Patrick Mahomes who’s going to absolutely dominate his division for the next 10-12 years

You keep acting like there are 10 super bowl winners every season.

Jesus Christ dude his career is 4 years old and they are an incredibly piss poor ran franchise. He’s the #1 reason they win games. Any games. They won a playoff game last year and blew a lead to....the Super Bowl MVP Patrick Mahomes who’s going to absolutely dominate his division for the next 10-12 years

You keep acting like there are 10 super bowl winners every season.
- sbroads24

Just (frank)ing drop it, holy poop.
WTF!

Insane catch by Hill and they never even challenged it. WOW.

Just (frank)ing drop it, holy poop.
WTF!
- IonSabres

Nah

If there is a team that will ultimately up end beating Kansas City in the playoffs, it’s going to be because they have horses to slow down their passing attack and they are able to run the ball.

Similar to the way the Giants beat the Seahawks today.
- Pegullaville

Yes, and it will be an anomaly. I could ask you to guess a random number between 1 and 1,000,000, and you could guess it correctly. That doesn't mean you have some special insight; it means you got lucky, that's it.

If there is a team that will ultimately up end beating Kansas City in the playoffs, it’s going to be because they have horses to slow down their passing attack and they are able to run the ball.

Similar to the way the Giants beat the Seahawks today.
- Pegullaville

https://www.espn.com/nfl/boxscore?gameId=401220218

Broncos making the Chiefs look positively pedestrian.

By the time the clock is ready to strike midnight next Sunday the Bills might just be considered the favorite to represent the AFC in the Super Bowl.

Those are funny commercials. “We have aunts” is good, too.
- Ratsreign

the fencing one is bad, they need to get their game back with the next one

54 Super Bowls

39 of them won by Hall of Fame QB’s (I included Brady and Manning)

That doesn’t include Roethlisberger, Wilson or Mahomes who undoubtedly get in, which would make it 42 of 54 or 77% of the super bowl winning QB’s being hall of famers

77%

Broncos making the Chiefs look positively pedestrian.

By the time the clock is ready to strike midnight next Sunday the Bills might just be considered the favorite to represent the AFC in the Super Bowl.


- Losman

It's a division game. It's not even half over. The Chiefs, even if they lose, are the prohibitive favorites.

Just (frank)ing drop it, holy poop.
WTF!
- IonSabres

disagree


best conversation of the past 3 weeks has been this topic

the fencing one is bad, they need to get their game back with the next one
- homiedclown

Agreed.

It's a division game. It's not even half over. The Chiefs, even if they lose, are the prohibitive favorites.
- Wetbandit1

Maybe the betting line favorite, but we will be well positioned to exploit their weakness on D and curtail their offence the next time we play them.

If we get another shot at them, we are going to win.

We are a Hail Mary and a ridiculous scheduling change away from being a 1 loss team right now.

disagree


best conversation of the past 3 weeks has been this topic
- homiedclown

KC has the best QB in the league, ran it 3 times from the 5, and went backward.

54 Super Bowls

39 of them won by Hall of Fame QB’s (I included Brady and Manning)

That doesn’t include Roethlisberger, Wilson or Mahomes who undoubtedly get in, which would make it 42 of 54 or 77% of the super bowl winning QB’s being hall of famers

77%
- sbroads24

so Hostetler, Dilfer and Brad Johnson type are in the minority?


side note other super bowl winning qb's threw for a lot of yards
Doug Williams, Plunkett, Theismann


and I think both mannings get in the HOF which bumps the numbers up even more
plus rodgers and brees



flaco will not make it

KC has the best QB in the league, ran it 3 times from the 5, and went backward.
- Wetbandit1

get back to me after they play the final 32 minutes


Denver almost played a perfect first half if not for that bone head throw

Maybe the betting line favorite, but we will be well positioned to exploit their weakness on D and curtail their offence the next time we play them.

If we get another shot at them, we are going to win.
- Losman

if we take care of the steelers and 49's I will feel like a chiefs/bills game is a coin toss

if we take care of the steelers and 49's I will feel like a chiefs/bills game is a coin toss
- homiedclown

Yep. We should also be 10 - 1 right now.

If that Titans game isn't played on a Tuesday with such a big game to follow, we don't lose that one. And the Hail Mary was just stupid.