It was a awful trade to start with so you added a 3rd/4th liner from Philly and added a top D prospect from the Leafs.

Yes, how indeed did it get worse?
- GreatGigInTheSky

the top d prospect is more a suspect than prospect at this point. Yes added a good 3rd liner.

So just so i am clear sanheim for Nylander is a bad base to start with is what your saying correct?

Please lets hear your counter or what you would find acceptable. Please dont say not trading nylander as that isnt an option for this discussion.

If Lou trades Barzal it will be his last deal as a GM. Not saying he wouldn't do it, but it would cost him his job. I think he's aware
- Hardbalz

Who's the brave soul that's gonna tell Lou he's fired?

If the Flyers trade Sanheim for Willy one for one, the Flyers are getting screwed! A 1B D for a 2nd liner.......

Well then maybe its just Barzal for futures. Like if LA offered Byfield and Turcotte for Barzal, then that would really help the NYI rebuild.

REBUILD? WTF are you babbling about? They went to the Semi's last year, the rebuild is LONG OVER! Please look up some info before sounding off. Wow!

the isles just finished in the final four. they Have a New arena opening. its the Kings who are rebuilding. they wouldnt give up 4 top-10 picks to offersheet Barzal and the Kings Know they are old in Key spots with Doughty, Brown, Kopitar and Quick so they are not going after Barzal

This is Just Eklund making up nonsense that has no basis in reality. its his livelihood and he cant support his family if he doesnt drive traffic through his portal. he has no sources with the Isles whatsoever otherwise he would have known about Boychucks decision before it happened, Which he didnt.

so dont buy the scam, because thats all it is
- billneftleberg

Ek was reporting about the Flames going after Markstrom for weeks before it happened. So I'm sure he has sources, but some rumours don't come true. OK so maybe the Islanders aren't rebuilding. But this doesn't mean there isn't a potential trade partner with LA. So maybe Barzal for Kopitar to give NYI some leadership. Also have you considered a 3-way trade. Barzal ends up in LA which Ek has reported is a dream of his. Maybe Byfield goes to Calgary and Gaudreau goes to NYI?

the top d prospect is more a suspect than prospect at this point. Yes added a good 3rd liner.

So just so i am clear sanheim for Nylander is a bad base to start with is what your saying correct?

Please lets hear your counter or what you would find acceptable. Please dont say not trading nylander as that isnt an option for this discussion.
- login

Lets do each other a favour. You don't talk about Leafs prospects like you know what you're talking about and I'll do the same for Philly's. Sound good? 'Cause you're well off base.

Yeah, it's an absolutely awful trade for the Leafs.

A 1st and a top prospect is where it starts. Like I said, I don't know Philly's prospects (just like you clearly don't know the Leafs), so a guy from the top of the pile. But regardless, the Leafs aren't trading Nylander to Philly.

If I actually read Mike's blogs, I might do it. But I don't, 'cause I don't care for bloggers opinions.
- GreatGigInTheSky

But you do read his blogs. On TSN, Sportsnet, Friedman/Bobby Mac, LeBrun, Dreger's twitter, etc.

Ek was reporting about the Flames going after Markstrom for weeks before it happened. So I'm sure he has sources, but some rumours don't come true. OK so maybe the Islanders aren't rebuilding. But this doesn't mean there isn't a potential trade partner with LA. So maybe Barzal for Kopitar to give NYI some leadership. Also have you considered a 3-way trade. Barzal ends up in LA which Ek has reported is a dream of his. Maybe Byfield goes to Calgary and Gaudreau goes to NYI?
- Kooleus

But we must consider a players hometown before trying to figure out which team he'll play for. Like Taylor Hall. He has 5 home towns. Including Buffalo.

But you do read his blogs. On TSN, Sportsnet, Friedman/Bobby Mac, LeBrun, Dreger's twitter, etc.
- gergeswillems

Which is why I don't read his blogs. Don't need the same words read again.

Who's the brave soul that's gonna tell Lou he's fired?
- GreatGigInTheSky

Stephane Robidas.

It was a awful trade to start with so you added a 3rd/4th liner from Philly and added a top D prospect from the Leafs.

Yes, how indeed did it get worse?
- GreatGigInTheSky

- Ross77

Did you read the following 3 words of the sentence?

the top d prospect is more a suspect than prospect at this point. Yes added a good 3rd liner.

So just so i am clear sanheim for Nylander is a bad base to start with is what your saying correct?

Please lets hear your counter or what you would find acceptable. Please dont say not trading nylander as that isnt an option for this discussion.
- login

Leafs fans are wacky.

Id do Nylander for Sanheim straight up.

Id be even quicker to add in Laughton and Loljegren...

He's not a "top D prospect" as someone suggested, he's unlikely to be a full-time NHLer. He's too slow at making decisions.

Lets do each other a favour. You don't talk about Leafs prospects like you know what you're talking about and I'll do the same for Philly's. Sound good? 'Cause you're well off base.

Yeah, it's an absolutely awful trade for the Leafs.

A 1st and a top prospect is where it starts. Like I said, I don't know Philly's prospects (just like you clearly don't know the Leafs), so a guy from the top of the pile. But regardless, the Leafs aren't trading Nylander to Philly.
- GreatGigInTheSky

no doesnt sound good. Well not off base. He has played 3+ years n the AHL and hasnt cracked the leaf's roster even on a part time basis. Not like the leafs are stacked there on the back end.

so your answer is yes its a bad trade Sanheim for Nylander as base. Got it.

A first, top prospect , and Sanheim. Sure why not. Will the flyers need some lube or bareback? Replace Sanheim with Ghost and I include a 1st and the top prospect. Then work out the other particulars.

Leafs fans are wacky.

Id do Nylander for Sanheim straight up.

Id be even quicker to add in Laughton and Loljegren...

He's not a "top D prospect" as someone suggested, he's unlikely to be a full-time NHLer. He's too slow at making decisions.
- Arctic_AARDVARK

Yeah, but your opinions when it comes to Nylander are awful.

Yeah, but your opinions when it comes to Nylander are awful.
- GreatGigInTheSky

uh.. no they arent.

no doesnt sound good. Well not off base. He has played 3+ years n the AHL and hasnt cracked the leaf's roster even on a part time basis. Not like the leafs are stacked there on the back end.

so your answer is yes its a bad trade Sanheim for Nylander as base. Got it.

A first, top prospect , and Sanheim. Sure why not. Will the flyers need some lube or bareback? Replace Sanheim with Ghost and I include a 1st and the top prospect. Then work out the other particulars.
- login

Been the Marlies best player 2 years running and one of the better in the AHL. So, yeah. He's 21 man. Still a damn kid.

Yes, obviously.

Hmm... where in my "proposal" did I mention Sanheim? I said top Philly prospect and a 1st to start. Never mentioned Sanheim.

uh.. no they arent.
- Arctic_AARDVARK

When the vast majority of people say that it's not only bad, but straight up awful, yeah, it's awful.

Been the Marlies best player 2 years running and one of the better in the AHL. So, yeah. He's 21 man. Still a damn kid.

Yes, obviously.

Hmm... where in my "proposal" did I mention Sanheim? I said top Philly prospect and a 1st to start. Never mentioned Sanheim.
- GreatGigInTheSky

ok to start, then what do you fill it in with?

When the vast majority of people say that it's not only bad, but straight up awful, yeah, it's awful.
- GreatGigInTheSky

where have vast majority said Sanheim for Nylander as a base is straight up awful?

When the vast majority of people say that it's not only bad, but straight up awful, yeah, it's awful.
- GreatGigInTheSky

an awful take is "lIlJeGrEn iS a ToP D pRoSpEcT"

I dont like Willys game because he's never proven to be any good w/o playing with an elite C. Also he was supposed to be able to play C, which he's shown he cannot. And he's brutal defensivly, and has ZERO jam.

Theres a reason why people call him "Melander"

and the vast majority you speak of are teenaged girls who think he's better than Sundin was..

ok to start, then what do you fill it in with?
- login

Don't know. I'm not a GM.

I also told you that the Leafs won't be trading Nylander to Philly.

where have vast majority said Sanheim for Nylander as a base is straight up awful?
- login

Not what I said. I said that his opinions on Nylander are awful because he hates Nylander because he's a lot prettier than he is.

He cries about Nylander in every single Leafs blog.

an awful take is "lIlJeGrEn iS a ToP D pRoSpEcT"

I dont like Willys game because he's never proven to be any good w/o playing with an elite C. Also he was supposed to be able to play C, which he's shown he cannot. And he's brutal defensivly, and has ZERO jam.

Theres a reason why people call him "Melander"

and the vast majority you speak of are teenaged girls who think he's better than Sundin was..
- Arctic_AARDVARK

Oh. It's not just your opinions on Nylander that are awful, I guess.

And literally no one thinks he's better than Sundin. If anyone has said it, it's to troll the people who hate Nylander for no reason.

Not what I said. I said that his opinions on Nylander are awful because he hates Nylander because he's a lot prettier than he is.

He cries about Nylander in every single Leafs blog.
- GreatGigInTheSky

non factual

I dont hate Melander.. If he made <5mil id be okay with him.