Because every move on defense was a failure
And Lehner was a psycho drunk

What did u want us to do....
wait for 3-5years for our draft picks to MAYBE develop into “foundation” type pieces?

I don’t think that’s realistic that we’d essentially tank for 3+ more seasons
- jdfitz77

And ROR made no difference in that 3yr period

Speaking of if there will be a season, I just heard a portion of an interview with Brian Burke on Serius-XM in which he stated that as of 48 hours ago, he was optimistic of a season being played. However, he has changed his tune and not so sure anymore.

He basically blasted the Players for not recognizing that things have changed and the reality of the situation is the league is very likely to lose 50% of its revenues without fans (tickets, concessions, Jerseys, etc) and that the primary condition they need to face is that even with 20% Escrow, it won't enable 50/50 revenue sharing.

Furthermore, he stated there are Owners who are pushing to cancel the season and gave an example of a discussion he had with an unnamed GM who stated
-if we don't plawe will lose $15m
-if we do play, we will lose around $60m

He was pretty brutal on the players position of not recognizing the issue and instead focusing on the we just signed an agreement 5 months ago.

Interesting stuff

This is from yesterday.

https://theathletic.com/2...ource=user-shared-article

Speaking of if there will be a season, I just heard a portion of an interview with Brian Burke on Serius-XM in which he stated that as of 48 hours ago, he was optimistic of a season being played. However, he has changed his tune and not so sure anymore.

He basically blasted the Players for not recognizing that things have changed and the reality of the situation is the league is very likely to lose 50% of its revenues without fans (tickets, concessions, Jerseys, etc) and that the primary condition they need to face is that even with 20% Escrow, it won't enable 50/50 revenue sharing.

Furthermore, he stated there are Owners who are pushing to cancel the season and gave an example of a discussion he had with an unnamed GM who stated
-if we don't plawe will lose $15m
-if we do play, we will lose around $60m

He was pretty brutal on the players position of not recognizing the issue and instead focusing on the we just signed an agreement 5 months ago.

Interesting stuff
- IonSabres

Incredible

Players have a 10-15 year window TOPS if they are good to make great money in the NHL

The owners can own these teams for life, half are billionaires, and they’d cancel the season, (frank) the players and fans over and not think twice

(frank) the super rich.

Yet, here we are those + years later, with a middling pipeline, a team still needing a 1RhD, G, and 2LhD. And with a significant number of roster spots on short-term deals needing to be renegotiated next season.

I think the Sabres will be entertaining if the season is played, but not counting on them accomplishing much except some younger players continued development, and an opportunity for Adams to see what they have so they can maximize that flexibility they structured with those short term deals.
- IonSabres

Well gmtm obviously planning on things not working out
Pretty easy to look back now & say it didn’t work

And if this year plays out like you’re thinking,
then maybe we should start talking about what we can get for Hall at the deadline,
& who to trade Eichel to next offseason

And ROR made no difference in that 3yr period
- Buff36

Disagree

Speaking of if there will be a season, I just heard a portion of an interview with Brian Burke on Serius-XM in which he stated that as of 48 hours ago, he was optimistic of a season being played. However, he has changed his tune and not so sure anymore.

He basically blasted the Players for not recognizing that things have changed and the reality of the situation is the league is very likely to lose 50% of its revenues without fans (tickets, concessions, Jerseys, etc) and that the primary condition they need to face is that even with 20% Escrow, it won't enable 50/50 revenue sharing.

Furthermore, he stated there are Owners who are pushing to cancel the season and gave an example of a discussion he had with an unnamed GM who stated
-if we don't plawe will lose $15m
-if we do play, we will lose around $60m

He was pretty brutal on the players position of not recognizing the issue and instead focusing on the we just signed an agreement 5 months ago.

Interesting stuff
- IonSabres

I heard a week or so ago that there was 6-8 owners who didn’t wanna play this year

Incredible

Players have a 10-15 year window TOPS if they are good to make great money in the NHL

The owners can own these teams for life, half are billionaires, and they’d cancel the season, (frank) the players and fans over and not think twice

(frank) the super rich.
- sbroads24

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The NHL, like every business, isn't welfare and I am so sure you care for the players and their income and not your entertainment. You care for the millionaire player who has insurance against this such a thing and not your hourly wage neighbor. Good to know.

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The NHL, like every business, isn't welfare and I am so sure you care for the players and their income and not your entertainment. You care for the millionaire player who has insurance against this such a thing and not your hourly wage neighbor. Good to know.
- GilPerreault11

I get where he’s coming from
But losing $60million is a really good reason to not wanna play the season

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The NHL, like every business, isn't welfare and I am so sure you care for the players and their income and not your entertainment. You care for the millionaire player who has insurance against this such a thing and not your hourly wage neighbor. Good to know.
- GilPerreault11

Lol. Amazing how arrived at that last sentence. Bravo

I get where he’s coming from
But losing $60million is a really good reason to not wanna play the season
- jdfitz77

They’d be screwing over hundreds of people who work for them too. It’s a drop in the bucket for most owners, who by the way, are the same people who have found a way to profit off of the pandemic in other areas of business

They’d be screwing over hundreds of people who work for them too. It’s a drop in the bucket for most owners, who by the way, are the same people who have found a way to profit off of the pandemic in other areas of business
- sbroads24

It’s still a business
They’re in it to make $$$, not appease the fans
$60mil still seems very significant to me

Lol. Amazing how arrived at that last sentence. Bravo
- sbroads24

Write again how Larsson replaced ROR. That was funny and I'm all ears for you to elaborate more. What did I write the other day why are you always wrong? It was a bit harsh but I'm not sure if you are wrong on purpose (special teams don't matter was classic) or not. It facilitates discussion though so points to you.

They’d be screwing over hundreds of people who work for them too. It’s a drop in the bucket for most owners, who by the way, are the same people who have found a way to profit off of the pandemic in other areas of business
- sbroads24

Also, how much should we really believe the owners would lose $60M if they played, or $15M if they didn't?

They've never been the most trustworthy or forthcoming when it comes to finances.

The player's salaries are public knowledge.

The owner's financial details are not.

Also, how much should we really believe the owners would lose $60M if they played, or $15M if they didn't?

They've never been the most trustworthy or forthcoming when it comes to finances.

The player's salaries are public knowledge.

The owner's financial details are not.
- kingcong39

Fair point
But they’re obviously gonna lose a big chunk of change if they play

It’s still a business
They’re in it to make $$$, not appease the fans
$60mil still seems very significant to me
- jdfitz77

If those numbers are accurate (they probably aren’t close) the net loss wouldn’t be 60 mil it would be around 45.

Some NHL teams have multiple ownerswho would obviously lose less

Sure, it’s a business, it’s also a matter of doing the right thing and getting employees back to work and appeasing your fans who spend money to support your team.

Also, how much should we really believe the owners would lose $60M if they played, or $15M if they didn't?

They've never been the most trustworthy or forthcoming when it comes to finances.

The player's salaries are public knowledge.

The owner's financial details are not.
- kingcong39

Yeah I don’t trust a damn thing they or Brian freaking Burke says

If those numbers are accurate (they probably aren’t close) the net loss wouldn’t be 60 mil it would be around 45.

Some NHL teams have multiple ownerswho would obviously lose less

Sure, it’s a business, it’s also a matter of doing the right thing and getting employees back to work and appeasing your fans who spend money to support your team.
- sbroads24

Fans & employees will come back though

Like i said, i do get where you’re coming from
But it’s a sh!t ton of $$$ for them to lose

Fans & employees will come back though

Like i said, i do get where you’re coming from
But it’s a sh!t ton of $$$ for them to lose
- jdfitz77

Its not.

The Pegula’s are worth 5.1 bil

45 mil equates to .008% of their wealth

Nothing

Its not.

The Pegula’s are worth 5.1 bil

45 mil equates to .008% of their wealth

Nothing
- sbroads24

The players also signed up for a 50/50 split of HRR...

Well there isn't going to be a lot of that this season if they can't have fans

Its not.

The Pegula’s are worth 5.1 bil

45 mil equates to .008% of their wealth

Nothing
- sbroads24

So if u were worth 500,000.... (house, car, income,etc)
you’d be ok just tossing away 4k?
I wouldn’t

And they’ve already lost a ton of $$$ on the Sabres

It’s not gonna hurt them,
but that doesn’t mean they should be happy about losing more $$$ again

Its not.

The Pegula’s are worth 5.1 bil

45 mil equates to .008% of their wealth

Nothing
- sbroads24

The Pegula's can't play with themselves (in the NHL, wherever else that is up to them) - not every owner is that rich. Every team losing 45 mil is a big deal. :

Yeah I don’t trust a damn thing they or Brian freaking Burke says
- sbroads24

Truculence!!!

So if u were worth 500,000.... (house, car, income,etc)
you’d be ok just tossing away 4k?
I wouldn’t

And they’ve already lost a ton of $$$ on the Sabres

It’s not gonna hurt them,
but that doesn’t mean they should be happy about losing more $$$ again
- jdfitz77

If it meant putting people back to work who make a fraction of what I do so they can support their families? In a heartbeat

If it meant putting people back to work who make a fraction of what I do so they can support their families? In a heartbeat
- sbroads24

The people who would be working 41 home games at the arena for supplemental income have been making due without the income since the last few games last season and since October. I worry about them losing their primary source of income and not being able to find another job more than the arena jobs.