Yet we have a core of Eichel, Dahlin, Joker, Cozens, Skinner, Reinhart, and Quinn (hopefully).

Now as long as Adams gets Reinhart done on a reasonable deal and does not give out any crazy money long term deals to anyone else to restrict our long term cap flexibility the Sabres should have a very good decade.

We need a goalie, and to shuffle the chairs on the defence and move a RHD out for a LHD.

I think everyone on here for the most part can agree on that and it’s not any high level thinking.
- Pegullaville

It’s not. It’s why letting Larsson and Kahun walk for Eakin and Girgensons/Lazar is incredible.

Jim Benning is a bad GM, he put the Canucks into cap hell because he overpaid a bunch of bottom 6 NHL’ers and sub optimal d-men.

At the professional level Benning has made one good move the entire time he’s been there and that was the J.T. Miller trade (even that at the time raised a lot of eyebrows because of the price paid) however it has definitely worked out for the Canucks.

How much credit does Jim Benning get for doing what Judd Brackett told him at the draft table to select Virtanen, Boeser, Pettersson, Hughes, Juolevi, Demko ? He inherited Horvat from Gillis’ last draft.

A GM is as good as his amateur scouting department for the most part. Benning’s moves at the professional level though are doing a pretty good job of screwing up a wet dream though.
- Pegullaville

So you assume that the GM's do not institute their own player/prospect evaluation criteria/weighting system? All teams do exactly the same rankings? All teams weigh attributes the same?
This rather elementary thought process is damning.

Allen for me...... he just needs to be Consistency.

He has surpassed my accuracy issues expectations this year and fixed his mechanic hiccups from the last 2 years.

We know his ceiling each game is very high almost mahomes type high ...... but his floor right now for a “bad game” is too low.
- Sabretooth9

What, like a guy going 16-35 for 160 yards 0 TD and 2 INT?

Guess that quarterback!

So you assume that the GM's do not institute their own player/prospect evaluation criteria/weighting system? All teams do exactly the same rankings? All teams weigh attributes the same?
This rather elementary thought process is damning.
- IonSabres

No, I said that Judd Brackett is really the guy who should be responsible for a majority of the Canucks success. And Brackett is now off to a good start in Minnesota under the Guerin administration.

I’m sure all teams have different amateur scouting methods and weighting’s. GM’s do take the responsibility of hiring those said members of the organization and ultimately have the last decision on all picks but a majority of the info they receive is from their scouts.

Even if you want to give Benning all of the credit for the amateur scouting, his moves at the professional level are holding the team back.

Who thought paying Beagle, Eriksson, Myers, Roussel et al would be a mistake ? A lot of average Joe’s did.

Looks like a holdup on the bank's end because of the unusually large tip. The restaurant gave her the tip and one would assume that the charge will go through simply because of the present economic struggles in the service industry.
- Michael Pachla

Yeah,
the NY Post article made it look like the restaurant’s fault though
Once u dig a little more into it,
u see the restaurant was doing everything they could for the server

I don't disagree that TM traded away a bunch of picks and prospects
- IonSabres

I mean. How can you disagree when it actually happened?

What, like a guy going 16-35 for 160 yards 0 TD and 2 INT?

Guess that quarterback!
- Wetbandit1

- 3rd GM's the charm

No forward depth, disaster of a defence corps, and Eichel and Reinhart really took off the year ROR was dealt.
- Pegullaville

The worst decision the Sabres made throughout this whole rebuild

I guess he wasn’t so “easily replaceable” after all

The worst decision the Sabres made throughout this whole rebuild

I guess he wasn’t so “easily replaceable” after all
- jdfitz77

Honestly, who even said he was?

What, like a guy going 16-35 for 160 yards 0 TD and 2 INT?

Guess that quarterback!
- Wetbandit1

But Rodgers has 2 mvp awards, won the Super Bowl, and been a Pro Bowl level QB for over a decade now

Allen’s resume of good play doesn’t even last ONE full season yet

The point is that it’s easier to excuse the bad games here n there when u have a bigger resume of excellence

Allen was one of the worst passers in the league his first 2years....
so when we see him have a bad game now, it’s reasonable to point to it & say we’re still seeing bad habits/decisions that were so common in the first 2 seasons
His resume of bad play, is MUCH bigger than his resume of great play
It’s great that we see that changing this season
The more that changes, the more we can feel comfortable counting on elite play from him

And we’ve gotta see it more against good teams,
ESPECIALLY in the playoffs

Honestly, who even said he was?
- 3rd GM's the charm

Sbroads specifically used those words HUNDREDS of times
U gotta remember he & i going back & forth on it

He’s not the only one though
MANY on here assumed Mitts would step right in to the 2C role & we wouldn’t miss ROR at all

Obviously, they were very very wrong

Sbroads specifically used those words HUNDREDS of times
U gotta remember he & i going back & forth on it

He’s not the only one though
MANY on here assumed Mitts would step right in to the 2C role & we wouldn’t miss ROR at all

Obviously, they were very very wrong
- jdfitz77

I couldn't understand this without the bolded parts.

I couldn't understand this without the bolded parts.
- 3rd GM's the charm

Just when i thought u might be trying to have a normal discussion....

Oh well, i tried

it was always going to be.

Either one of us could’ve been the GM and we’d still have Hall.

The moves Adams made (Staal, Hall) are no brainers

The moves that take skill or are ones he’d have to make year over year have been underwhelming

He bungled the bottom 6 and did squat about D or G
- sbroads24

I don't get was always going to be, are you saying before the moves this team still would have been better or after the moves.

I mean. How can you disagree when it actually happened?
- 3rd GM's the charm

I didn't realize I was running for office to have a quote parsed and posted so that it is out of context.
Good job

Sbroads specifically used those words HUNDREDS of times
U gotta remember he & i going back & forth on it

He’s not the only one though
MANY on here assumed Mitts would step right in to the 2C role & we wouldn’t miss ROR at all

Obviously, they were very very wrong
- jdfitz77

I believe the context was
- ROR engineered himself out of Buffalo with those comments, he knew the impact it would have after 2 years of only saying " I have t-6 o be better, it starts with me"
- the return was suboptimal, but given he was a goner, the thought was that Slobknob and Quitter could produce those points and have the scoring spread out. It was a hope that turned out to be very wrong
- Tage and the draft pick could provide value down the road. The jury is still out on that one...but admittedly it doesn't look great unless Tage becomes a productive middle 6 and Johnson is a 2nd pairing.
- And certainly most hoped Mitts would develope OVER TIME into a 2C, to eventually fill the void held down by Berglund for a year or two.

I dont recall people saying Mitts is it right away...well except for Botts.

I don't get was always going to be, are you saying before the moves this team still would have been better or after the moves.
- Buff36

That whole argument of 85% of GM's are idiots was just plain a waste of time. The foundation of the entire argument was centered on 1 aspect of a GM's job to conclude they all suck.

Hockey can't start soon enough.

That whole argument of 85% of GM's are idiots was just plain a waste of time. The foundation of the entire argument was centered on 1 aspect of a GM's job to conclude they all suck.

Hockey can't start soon enough.
- IonSabres

There's very few good GM'S

I believe the context was
- ROR engineered himself out of Buffalo with those comments, he knew the impact it would have after 2 years of only saying " I have t-6 o be better, it starts with me"
- the return was suboptimal, but given he was a goner, the thought was that Slobknob and Quitter could produce those points and have the scoring spread out. It was a hope that turned out to be very wrong
- Tage and the draft pick could provide value down the road. The jury is still out on that one...but admittedly it doesn't look great unless Tage becomes a productive middle 6 and Johnson is a 2nd pairing.
- And certainly most hoped Mitts would develope OVER TIME into a 2C, to eventually fill the void held down by Berglund for a year or two.

I dont recall people saying Mitts is it right away...well except for Botts.
- IonSabres

I never liked TM trading for ROR in the first place. Personally think it was the wrong time, Sabres weren't ready yet.

I never liked TM trading for ROR in the first place. Personally think it was the wrong time, Sabres weren't ready yet.
- Buff36

Yes and no.

What Edmonton failed to do for so many years is surround their kids with good vets.

Bringing in ROR to take the pressure off Jack and Sam, etc., and show them how to be professionals was absolutely the right thing to do, in theory. Maybe he wasn't the right "choice" as the vet, but the thought process was good.

Imo, of course 🙂

To me the Colorado and Winnipeg trades took this team on a 5yr downhill spiral. Those trades really wiped out 5yrs of the future with the prospects and picks traded away for 4 guys who aren't even hear anymore. Took that long to finally see a glimmer of prospects about to hit the system again.

Yes and no.

What Edmonton failed to do for so many years is surround their kids with good vets.

Bringing in ROR to take the pressure off Jack and Sam, etc., and show them how to be professionals was absolutely the right thing to do, in theory. Maybe he wasn't the right "choice" as the vet, but the thought process was good.

Imo, of course 🙂
- Powerslave

I get why they did it, I just didn't like the choice. To me ROR is that finishing piece to the puzzle, not one you want to start it with.

He and Botterill are Rutherford disciples. All 3 are morons
- jcragcrumple

That moron (Guerin) made an excellent pick one pick after the Sabres pick in the draft and made an outstanding trade with Nashville.

One bad trade does not make a GM a moron.

To me the Colorado and Winnipeg trades took this team on a 5yr downhill spiral. Those trades really wiped out 5yrs of the future with the prospects and picks traded away for 4 guys who aren't even hear anymore. Took that long to finally see a glimmer of prospects about to hit the system again.
- Buff36

Taking Reinhart over Draisatil played a big part too.

A GM’s job is hard though. Homie did a poll before that draft and a very good collection of posters said Draisatil yet the people paid millions of dollars couldn’t figure it out.