Who had the 49ers beating the Rams today on their bingo cards ?
- Pegullaville

Hmm...

Let me go and count how many Super Bowls over the last 20 years didn't have elite QB's playing in them... Funny how the same names keep popping up at the QB position yet no RB's seem to take their teams to multiple Super Bowls?

Also, The Washington Redskins scored 9 points in Super Bowl 18. It was the Raiders defense that won Super Bowl 18. Marcus Allen had a 74-yard run in the 3rd quarter when the game was already a blowout. So, the Raiders still win Super Bowl 18 without 230 yards rushing.
- 3rd GM's the charm

Eli Manning beat Brady in two super bowls carried by a strong defence and running game.

Eli Manning has more Super Bowls then most of the Elite QB’s of his era despite having a 500 record in the regular season as a starting QB.

Drew Brees has lost to Goff, Keenum, Cousins, Hasslebeck in the playoffs despite shattering NFL passing records.

The irony that I have several contrarian views over the years that have been right yet I get piled on like this is the reason why I puff my chest out in the first place.

I don’t hide when I’m wrong. I was wrong about Allen becoming a top end QB and Mittelstadt being a competent 2C. Oh well

Quick let me create a false narrative about how the Chiefs won Super Bowl LIV and run with it for almost a year.

Seriously man, you've been saying the Chiefs won last year's Super Bowl on their run game. Their RB had 66 yards rushing until he broke a 38 yard run with 1:12 left in the entire game, when their QB, Patrick Mahomes, was throwing the ball all over the place in the 4th quarter and they had taken the lead 24-20 on 2 touch down passes from said QB.

You are completely wrong. Completely. Completely and absolutely, utterly wrong.

Eli Manning beat Brady in two super bowls carried by a strong defence and running game.

Eli Manning has more Super Bowls then most of the Elite QB’s of his era despite having a 500 record in the regular season as a starting QB.

Drew Brees has lost to Goff, Keenum, Cousins, Hasslebeck in the playoffs despite shattering NFL passing records.

The irony that I have several contrarian views over the years that have been right yet I get piled on like this is the reason why I puff my chest out in the first place.

I don’t hide when I’m wrong. I was wrong about Allen becoming a top end QB and Mittelstadt being a competent 2C. Oh well
- Pegullaville

Youre using the helmet catch game as an example of the running game winning a superbowl? Unbelievable

Eli Manning beat Brady in two super bowls carried by a strong defence and running game.
- Pegullaville

THE GIANTS HAD 91 RUSHING YARDS IN THE FIRST SUPER BOWL THEY BEAT THE PATRIOTS IN.

In the second one, Eli Manning was excellent. He was 30/40 for 298 yards, a TD and a QB rating of 103.8 and they had ONE rushing TD the entire game. YOU ARE WRONG.

The INT was awful but overall I don’t think he was anywhere near bad.

They ignored Beasley and Diggs for a whole half and I wasn’t a fan of what Daboll tried to do
- sbroads24

Yeah Allen was fine, it was one of those games where he wasnt going to pile up the stats due to our lead and the way we were gashing them on the ground. He threw for 75% and was much more accurate it semi-windy conditions than Herbert, for instance.

I can live with his fumble, he tried to do to much. He messed up on the INT; with the LCB blitzing he should have thrown short to Beasley or to Moss on the area vacated by the LCB.

The Singletary fumble is what I felt was the really bad turnover. We had just turned them over on downs and they were ready to throw in the towel
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No valid rebuttal so you result to emoticons because you know I’m right.

How cute.
- Pegullaville

You're not right. I've already given my rebuttal, multiple times. The Pats have played a game without Newton. Everyone's been warned. They chose not to follow the rules. There's nowhere for the game to go. Neither team has a bye week. They're reaping what they've sown. Quit whining. They're garbage anyway.

THE GIANTS HAD 91 RUSHING YARDS IN THE FIRST SUPER BOWL THEY BEAT THE PATRIOTS IN.

In the second one, Eli Manning was excellent. He was 30/40 for 298 yards, a TD and a QB rating of 103.8 and they had ONE rushing TD the entire game. YOU ARE WRONG.
- 3rd GM's the charm

One of the most iconic plays in superbowl history won that game. And it wasn't a run

Youre using the helmet catch game as an example of the running game winning a superbowl? Unbelievable
- jcragcrumple

So Eli Manning is an elite QB ?

So Eli Manning is an elite QB ?
- Pegullaville

Again, you’re arguing with yourself

A. Manning probably goes into the HOF (I wouldn’t put him in)

B. No one on here, has ever, ever stated the *only* way to win is with an elite QB

*You* keep saying the way to win the SB is the “run and play good defense” and then point out literally every game that fits that narrative and ignore the 500 games a year that don’t

Youre using the helmet catch game as an example of the running game winning a superbowl? Unbelievable
- jcragcrumple

This dude has been repeatedly proven wrong not just today but constantly over the past few months and he will not shut up.

So Eli Manning is an elite QB ?
- Pegullaville

Yes. He was constantly in the top 10 for yards and TDs, and the last 3 years of his career killed his win % which was still .500, and he won 2 SBs.

One of the most iconic plays in superbowl history won that game. And it wasn't a run
- jcragcrumple

Well to be fair, you have to run after you catch the football so technically, all plays are running plays.

You're not right. I've already given my rebuttal, multiple times. The Pats have played a game without Newton. Everyone's been warned. They chose not to follow the rules. There's nowhere for the game to go. Neither team has a bye week. They're reaping what they've sown. Quit whining. They're garbage anyway.
- Wetbandit1

Why didn't they just ground and pound to a win today?

So Eli Manning is an elite QB ?
- Pegullaville

What does this have to do with the price of tea in china?

Again, you’re arguing with yourself

A. Manning probably goes into the HOF (I wouldn’t put him in)

B. No one on here, has ever, ever stated the *only* way to win is with an elite QB

*You* keep saying the way to win the SB is the “run and play good defense” and then point out literally every game that fits that narrative and ignore the 500 games a year that don’t
- sbroads24

I have already shown him that 3 of the games he claims were won by ground and pound were not actually won that way, all 3 of them Super Bowls and all 3 of them had elite QB's playing in them.

So Eli Manning is an elite QB ?
- Pegullaville

Funny how you ignore every post I have responded to you with facts proving you're wrong? How did the Chiefs win last year's Super Bowl with a RB who had 66 yards rushing until there was 1 minute left in the game? When they were up 24-20? After their elite QB had just rallied them with fantastic throws and 2 TD passes?

Yeah Allen was fine, it was one of those games where he wasnt going to pile up the stats due to our lead and the way we were gashing them on the ground. He threw for 75% and was much more accurate it semi-windy conditions than Herbert, for instance.

I can live with his fumble, he tried to do to much. He messed up on the INT; with the LCB blitzing he should have thrown short to Beasley or to Moss on the area vacated by the LCB.

The Singletary fumble is what I felt was the really bad turnover. We had just turned them over on downs and they were ready to throw in the towel
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- turbo044

If Allen played like that against a good team. We easily lose.

The chargers defense was basically backups and 4th stringers and yet he couldn’t do anything.

One of the most iconic plays in superbowl history won that game. And it wasn't a run
- jcragcrumple

The Philly special is a pretty iconic play as well.

Jacksonville paid an arm and a leg for Nick Foles, that worked out great.

Texans gave how much guaranteed money to Brock Osweiler because he went 5-1 as a starter in 2015 ? That worked out great too.

The team that can beat Mahomes in the playoffs this year will do so because they can have sustained success running the ball (to dominate time of possession and keep him off the field) and must have a really good defence.

If Allen played like that against a good team. We easily lose.

The chargers defense was basically backups and 4th stringers and yet he couldn’t do anything.
- Sabretooth9

And our OL is terrible and half of them were out with injuries and we have 1 starting CB on defense? Funny how those things only apply to the Chargers but not to us. You're clearly bias against the Bills.

The Philly special is a pretty iconic play as well.

Jacksonville paid an arm and a leg for Nick Foles, that worked out great.

Texans gave how much guaranteed money to Brock Osweiler because he went 5-1 as a starter in 2015 ? That worked out great too.

The team that can beat Mahomes in the playoffs this year will do so because they can have sustained success running the ball (to dominate time of possession and keep him off the field) and must have a really good defence.
- Pegullaville

What the hell are you even on about right now? Oh, right, this is called deflecting. None of this post has any relevance to anything that anyone has been arguing tonight.

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The Chiefs have won like 15 of their last 16 games. The only team to beat them threw the ball all over them and hit two 70 yard TD passes.

Nick Foles, Super Bowl LII: 28/43, 373 yards 3 TD 1 INT 106.1 Rating

Eagles 41
Patriots 33

Yeah the Jaguars suck because they traded for Foles, so I am clearly right about the run game winning Super Bowls.

San Francisco just beat the Rams on a walk-off field goal.

Which of course means they won running the ball.

Funny how you ignore every post I have responded to you with facts proving you're wrong? How did the Chiefs win last year's Super Bowl with a RB who had 66 yards rushing until there was 1 minute left in the game? When they were up 24-20? After their elite QB had just rallied them with fantastic throws and 2 TD passes?
- 3rd GM's the charm

Maybe the high end defence they had to keep them within 10 points despite having a QB that had a QBR of 37.7 with 8 minutes left in the 4th quarter.

Doesn’t matter how magical those last few drives Mahomes had if they are down by 17-20 instead of 10 points.